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AndyS

(14,559 posts)
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 04:32 PM Feb 2023

So, the new measure of PTSD and trauma in our children

isn't "Have you been through a school shooting?" but "How many school shootings have you been through?"

At what point do we as a nation become enraged? When do we act on that rage? When do we go to the polls with ONE goal in mind; to vote out the ones who perpetuate guns everywhere?

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So, the new measure of PTSD and trauma in our children (Original Post) AndyS Feb 2023 OP
When people can stop being selfish enough to think it's okay because it hasn't happened to them yet. onecaliberal Feb 2023 #1
The people with power make sure they are protected. Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #2
Desatan in Florida didn't want guns at his party but didn't want anyone to know because his onecaliberal Feb 2023 #5
+1 Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #7
Yep. rubbersole Feb 2023 #13
They only have power because WE give it to them. AndyS Feb 2023 #6
Exactly. Americans could stop the violence but they don't want to. Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #8
I think that will happen when ordinary citizens actually understand how govt works. Pobeka Feb 2023 #9
We are no longer a community. We are tribes - often NewHendoLib Feb 2023 #3
The GOP wants a traumatized, complacent, fearful, docile populace. Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #4
My 17 year old son woke up this morning sad. MontanaMama Feb 2023 #10
In my wife's country, it was a 2002 massacre... old as dirt Feb 2023 #11
If it didn't happen after Sandy Hook, it's hard to believe it would happen at all. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2023 #12
Sadly probably never Meowmee Feb 2023 #14
No. There aren't too many gun crazy people. AndyS Feb 2023 #15
disagree Meowmee Feb 2023 #16
The country has not always been this way. They are voted in again and again AndyS Feb 2023 #17
It has been this way as long as I have been here and is much worse since aw Meowmee Feb 2023 #18
Yes, today the news said one of the students at Michigan was at Sandy Hook as a sixth grader csziggy Feb 2023 #19

onecaliberal

(32,831 posts)
5. Desatan in Florida didn't want guns at his party but didn't want anyone to know because his
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 04:44 PM
Feb 2023

NRA owner might find out. They flat don’t give a fuck that our children are dying. #1 cause of death. If you’re still voting for these pricks, I’m sorry but you co-sign that shit. Pro life my ass.

AndyS

(14,559 posts)
6. They only have power because WE give it to them.
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 04:44 PM
Feb 2023

All the polls say 80% want more gun regulation, not less.

When does that 80% go to the polls and give that power to someone who will protect us and our children?

Someone please tell me what more I can do to make that happen.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
9. I think that will happen when ordinary citizens actually understand how govt works.
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 05:02 PM
Feb 2023

If they really understood congress, the whitehouse, the judicial branch; that 80%, plus the young ones worried about climate change would have been showing up in droves 10 years ago and voted the idiots out.

NewHendoLib

(60,014 posts)
3. We are no longer a community. We are tribes - often
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 04:41 PM
Feb 2023

tribes of 1, mesmerized by our smartphones, or fake worlds we play in, or our party ( in one case, cult), or religion.

We've become disconnected, horrible things have become normalized...we are not in a good place as a species.

Irish_Dem

(46,973 posts)
4. The GOP wants a traumatized, complacent, fearful, docile populace.
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 04:42 PM
Feb 2023

Makes Americans more easily manipulated and less likely to engage in politics.

MontanaMama

(23,312 posts)
10. My 17 year old son woke up this morning sad.
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 05:07 PM
Feb 2023

He said he's exhausted having to think about school shootings, balloons from who knows where being shot down, worrying about whether it is worth it to go to college because nothing is guaranteed him if he goes and his planet is on fire. My kiddo is a senior in high school and days like today, he feels hopeless. He's not alone. It's not okay.

 

old as dirt

(1,972 posts)
11. In my wife's country, it was a 2002 massacre...
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 05:08 PM
Feb 2023

Last edited Tue Feb 14, 2023, 09:22 PM - Edit history (1)

…at a Black church that provided the final impetus.

At what point do we as a nation become enraged?

I can still remember it like it was only yesterday.

Bojayá: La guerra sin límites (Bojayá: War without limits)



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Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
14. Sadly probably never
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 06:35 PM
Feb 2023

Because there are too many gun crazy people and people vote for it never to happen.

AndyS

(14,559 posts)
15. No. There aren't too many gun crazy people.
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 06:50 PM
Feb 2023

Only 30% of Americans own a gun, only 3% own half the guns. Of those who own guns 70% favor more strict gun laws. It's not the people, it's the gun lobby's grip on a few legislators.

It hasn't always been this way. It doesn't have to be this way.

Get angry. Then get even. Stop being passive.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
16. disagree
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 07:12 PM
Feb 2023

If it is that simple then why has this country always been this way. And it just keeps getting worse. And nothing changes. Those legislators are voted in time and time again by people If it were really a priority they wouldn't vote for them would they.

I knew that nothing would change after Sandy Hook and it hasn’t.

AndyS

(14,559 posts)
17. The country has not always been this way. They are voted in again and again
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 08:32 PM
Feb 2023

because it is NOT a priority. It's an issue somewhere on that scale of 1 to 10. I find it endlessly ironic that violent crime is an campaign slogan but guns don't seem to be part of violent crime.

It should be a priority. That's why I do the things I can. I write posts here to keep gun violence visible. I call and write my congress critters. I march, I document the opposition, I donate because I want it to be a priority.

It is what I can do. It is all I can do. So I do it.

I ask you to join me and not sink into a pool of despair because that leads nowhere.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
18. It has been this way as long as I have been here and is much worse since aw
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 01:01 AM
Feb 2023

I don’t see it changing which is a realistic view imo. If it were really a priority for enough people they would not vote for legislators who support this. They know what they are doing. This is allover the news non stop now whenever there is another mass shooting of this nature.

I am not in a position to do all of that but as usual I will vote against all of this. We are living under a tyranny of a minority which is why this country is such a mess. It’s a crazy system.

That is the reason guns are not part of the campaign violence stuff because they really still want the easy access to guns for everyone.

What kind of system votes in the Brady bill but doesn’t make it permanent and then it expires- a crazy one imo.


Anyway, good luck to you, hopefully something you do will help on some level and it will stick.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
19. Yes, today the news said one of the students at Michigan was at Sandy Hook as a sixth grader
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 01:25 AM
Feb 2023

Another was at the Parkland shooting. Not quite in the same category was the one who was at the Boston Marathon bombing.

Every generation seems to have their trauma points. Mine were the JFK, Martin Luther King, and Robert Kennedy shootings, all on top of the Cuban Missile Crisis and the certainty that a nuclear war was on the way.

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