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I thought i heard on MSNBC that some contaminated crap from Ohio train dreailment (Original Post) bluestarone Feb 2023 OP
Probably will be dumped in low income areas mucifer Feb 2023 #1
Heard a Texas company was going to bury it in texas JT45242 Feb 2023 #2
God Dam bastards! bluestarone Feb 2023 #3
Use in injection fields (fracking) is what I heard... hlthe2b Feb 2023 #4
not being used in fracking. see my longer post below NT yellowdogintexas Feb 2023 #12
Maybe not fracking, but local affiliate states INJECTION WELLS hlthe2b Feb 2023 #13
Here... 2naSalit Feb 2023 #5
AH, TY bluestarone Feb 2023 #6
I saw it but... 2naSalit Feb 2023 #7
Why not just dump it in the ocean? Bayard Feb 2023 #8
It's going to this toxic waste dump in South Florida. Elwood P Dowd Feb 2023 #9
don't we all wish that were the case ! nt yellowdogintexas Feb 2023 #11
Transporting it is far more dangerous than storage yellowdogintexas Feb 2023 #10
Under normal conditions, i would fully agree with this. BUT bluestarone Feb 2023 #14
I just read that shipments have been stopped. yellowdogintexas Feb 2023 #18
Bernie should know. Nothing new here. Hortensis Feb 2023 #15
Immediately thought of that! betsuni Feb 2023 #16
BOLO for more of this: using exhausted gas/oil cavities for storage of toxins. CoopersDad Feb 2023 #17

JT45242

(2,262 posts)
2. Heard a Texas company was going to bury it in texas
Sat Feb 25, 2023, 11:20 AM
Feb 2023

You know where such things are unregulated, because they aren't dangerous like,say, a uterus.

Guns and toxic waste... regulations free in texas.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
4. Use in injection fields (fracking) is what I heard...
Sat Feb 25, 2023, 11:25 AM
Feb 2023

So, it is adding to already present toxic waste, it would appear.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
13. Maybe not fracking, but local affiliate states INJECTION WELLS
Sat Feb 25, 2023, 02:28 PM
Feb 2023

Uncertainties remain even after discussions between the county and officials from the federal Department of Transportation and Environmental Protection Agency, the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality and other industry and environment experts, Hidalgo said.

“The government officials have readily provided the information they have, but what we’re learning is that they themselves don’t seem to have the full information,” she said. “I’m not clear on who has the full picture of what is happening here and that is a problem,”

She noted Harris County has around 10 injection wells capable of receiving hazardous commercial waste, making the area one of the few places where the materials could be disposed. But she said there are similar facilities in Vickery, Ohio, and Romulus, Michigan, that also could handle the wastewater and are located closer to the crash site.

“There may be logistical reasons for all of this. There may be economic reasons. Perhaps Texas Molecular outbid the Michigan facility,” Hidalgo said. “It doesn’t mean there’s something nefarious going on, but we do need to know the answer to this question.”

https://fox8.com/news/where-toxic-wastewater-from-east-palestine-train-derailment-was-taken-for-disposal/

Given it is Texas, I have no faith that it is being appropriately handled, though.

yellowdogintexas

(22,250 posts)
10. Transporting it is far more dangerous than storage
Sat Feb 25, 2023, 02:16 PM
Feb 2023

They will be storing the water used to extinguish DeWine's fires, and some of it has been taken there already.

Link to the company which is handling it. They have been dealing with toxic water disposal for a long time. Remember how much petroleum passes through and is stored in the Houston area; which is plastered with refineries and storage facilities.

https://www.texasmolecular.com/

Yes the residents have concerns, but this company has been doing this for years in a place where it is needed. If I lived there I would be looking at how the stuff is going to travel through my town.

This is not meant to be an apology or excuse for the actions taken; I originally saw some info about this in a newspaper link and followed up for details.

bluestarone

(16,906 posts)
14. Under normal conditions, i would fully agree with this. BUT
Sat Feb 25, 2023, 03:28 PM
Feb 2023

Texas? I DO NOT trust ANYTHING! PLUS NO notice to the states that are receiving this CRAP? Something SMELLS to high heaven!

yellowdogintexas

(22,250 posts)
18. I just read that shipments have been stopped.
Sat Feb 25, 2023, 11:16 PM
Feb 2023

Mostly due to the distance of the transport. However I don't know how many EPA certified facilities there are (around the country) which have experience in handling toxic liquids.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. Bernie should know. Nothing new here.
Sat Feb 25, 2023, 03:41 PM
Feb 2023

Many may remember that Senator Sanders once took the lead in arranging with TX's Republican governor for the transport and dumping of VT's light nuclear waste to a poor, "unimportant" county in far-south TX. He had studies saying there was no place VTers could safely dispose of their waste anywhere in their own state.

As for why the secrecy, when the people of the targeted community belatedly earned of it in spite of attempts to keep them from knowing, they tried to fight it, even scraped up fares to send people to VT to beg Sanders himself not to. To no avail. Which of course is a complete explanation for not informing the public in this case. It was transported and delivered clandestinely at night in that case also.

CoopersDad

(2,193 posts)
17. BOLO for more of this: using exhausted gas/oil cavities for storage of toxins.
Sat Feb 25, 2023, 03:49 PM
Feb 2023

It's already done with CO2 in "enhanced oil recovery" schemes.

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