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BlueWaveNeverEnd

(10,735 posts)
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 07:15 AM Mar 2023

DeSantis Promises Florida Will Control Disney Content

While the board handles infrastructure and maintenance, DeSantis boasted that it could use its leverage to force Disney to stop “trying to inject woke ideology” on children.

“When you lose your way, you’ve got to have people that are going to tell you the truth,” DeSantis proclaimed. “So we hope they can get back on. But I think all of these board members very much would like to see the type of entertainment that all families can appreciate.”

It is worth pausing a moment to grasp the full breadth of what is going on here. First, DeSantis established the principle that he can and will use the power of the state to punish private firms that exercise their First Amendment right to criticize his positions. Now he is promising to continue exerting state power to pressure the firm to produce content that comports with his own ideological agenda.Whether he is successful remains to be seen. But a few things ought to be clear. First, DeSantis’s treatment of Disney is not a one-off but a centerpiece of his legacy in Florida. He has repeatedly invoked the episode in his speeches, and his allies have held it up as evidence of his strength and dominance. The Murdoch media empire, which is functionally an arm of the DeSantis campaign, highlighted the Disney conquest in a New York Post front page and a Fox & Friends segment.

Second, DeSantis’s authoritarian methods have met with vanishingly little resistance within his party. The only detectable Republican pushback has come from New Hampshire governor Chris Sununu, who warned, “Look, Ron’s a very good governor. But I’m just trying to remind folks what we are at our core. And if we’re trying to beat the Democrats at being big-government authoritarians, remember what’s going to happen. Eventually, they’ll have power … and then they’ll start penalizing conservative businesses and conservative nonprofits and conservative ideas.” (Of course, this warning holds only if Republicans believe they will have to relinquish power. If DeSantis can truly follow the example of Viktor Orbán, losing power becomes only a theoretical risk.)

And third, DeSantis has been very explicit about his belief that he sees his methods in Florida as a blueprint for a national agenda. So there is every reason to believe that, if elected president, DeSantis would use government power to force both public and private institutions to toe his line. Speaking out against him, or even producing content he disapproves of, would become a financially risky proposition.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/desantis-promises-florida-will-control-disney-content/ar-AA182O72

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DeSantis Promises Florida Will Control Disney Content (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd Mar 2023 OP
And I promise not to go back to Florida or Disney world as Meadowoak Mar 2023 #1
Yup. This will be our last trip until FL changes it's diaper. woodsprite Mar 2023 #19
Same here MustLoveBeagles Mar 2023 #60
As a Floridian, was hesitant to urge DUers to boycott my home state. However, power and $$ are the allegorical oracle Mar 2023 #67
I have no choice sabbat hunter Mar 2023 #68
That's . . . . that's . . . . COMMUNISM!!!!! no_hypocrisy Mar 2023 #2
When the government controls the mode of production. TheBlackAdder Mar 2023 #13
Ron Mc'White Boots says what? Botany Mar 2023 #3
Booty McBootface. TheBlackAdder Mar 2023 #16
" Booty McBootface" Love it I'm stealing it. Botany Mar 2023 #18
Hitler Complex is Right B.See Mar 2023 #22
We can start fighting him right now calling him "Booty McBootface" 24/7 Botany Mar 2023 #26
Thanks. B.See Mar 2023 #29
Actually... keroro gunsou Mar 2023 #31
As long as the appellation "Booty McBootface" is used. "Booty McBootface" will leave a mark on ... Botany Mar 2023 #33
Yeah, coz... hippywife Mar 2023 #52
Hmmm...who wore it better? Xavier Breath Mar 2023 #37
The Disney family have very little control from what I read on the internet..... Lovie777 Mar 2023 #4
He won't even know when Disney destroys him malaise Mar 2023 #5
Exactly. A governor who'll make himself the cautionary tale of unconstitutional Orbanism. ancianita Mar 2023 #46
Only in his head can he control what Disney produces in movies FloridaBlues Mar 2023 #6
Just like in Russia, where Putin controls the oligarchs and their businesses. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #7
Yep, it sure looks like it. TheBlackAdder Mar 2023 #15
Florida is becoming a Russian colony. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #30
More like Orban of Hungary. ancianita Mar 2023 #47
He is multigraincracker Mar 2023 #8
😂 Walleye Mar 2023 #10
Now there's a bumper sticker EYESORE 9001 Mar 2023 #12
I didn't say she was crazy. I said she was fucking Goofy. Probatim Mar 2023 #39
Disney is way too BIG to be told what to do... ProudMNDemocrat Mar 2023 #9
Disney Studios will be 100 years old this year cagefreesoylentgreen Mar 2023 #65
He would never succeed if he were governor of a cold state with miserable weather Walleye Mar 2023 #11
I'm waiting for the lawsuit against DeSatan by Disney. House of Roberts Mar 2023 #14
Think that through again FBaggins Mar 2023 #17
Passing a law that affects all corporations in a state is different from a law only affecting one. House of Roberts Mar 2023 #20
All that occured is their local government changed hands FBaggins Mar 2023 #24
This bill will not affect operations of the parks at Walt Disney World or Disney content LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2023 #21
Sabatini's post is nonsense FBaggins Mar 2023 #27
You are WRONG LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2023 #57
Sorry... that's just as nonsensical FBaggins Mar 2023 #59
Little Hitler also wants a one party state... figures B.See Mar 2023 #23
I'm done visiting Florida! Earth-shine Mar 2023 #25
Isn't this against republican values of regulating business? Emile Mar 2023 #28
Allow me to coin the term "Equal Blood" The Grand Illuminist Mar 2023 #32
Only ONE thing that will stop this BULLSHIT! (almost impossible though) bluestarone Mar 2023 #34
The propaganda is the problem! Initech Mar 2023 #50
EVERY word above is 100% on the money! bluestarone Mar 2023 #51
Sununu GenThePerservering Mar 2023 #35
Yup. But he's only mostly full of organic manure. Mopar151 Mar 2023 #43
So...fascism? Hong Kong Cavalier Mar 2023 #36
DESANTISM HAB911 Mar 2023 #38
He can try to defend his contract controls, but it boils down to Disney's 1A rights of content. ancianita Mar 2023 #49
If Desantis succeeds ... AncientOfDays Mar 2023 #40
Weird, remember when GOPers were all about the hand of the free market deciding Wingus Dingus Mar 2023 #41
They were never about the 'free market' Quanto Magnus Mar 2023 #53
Nothing like telling a multi-national company you can control content because of the toe they have i haele Mar 2023 #42
This fight is just nuts. PlutosHeart Mar 2023 #44
Hilarious that I keep seeing this suggestion with "just" FBaggins Mar 2023 #54
There's no way Disney COULD pull out of Florida jmowreader Mar 2023 #55
It's not just Desantis. It's Fox News. Initech Mar 2023 #66
Desantis can seriously go shove this "anti-woke" agenda up his ass. Initech Mar 2023 #45
Oh, god... sakabatou Mar 2023 #48
Because DeathSantis apparently now controls the Disney land and controls the Disney World board, Zilli Mar 2023 #56
he definitely has lost his mind. his win of the governship by a large % had gone to his head BlueWaveNeverEnd Mar 2023 #61
What did Disney actually lose from its Florida battle with DeSantis? LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2023 #58
BTW - Fuck Disney for their silence. maxrandb Mar 2023 #62
Good point. Disney owns ABC News and a lot o' media. Kid Berwyn Mar 2023 #63
It's exactly like all the people in 2016 that saw what was coming maxrandb Mar 2023 #64
Precisely. Kid Berwyn Mar 2023 #69

woodsprite

(12,319 posts)
19. Yup. This will be our last trip until FL changes it's diaper.
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 08:42 AM
Mar 2023

We had trip planned before COVID hit and cancelled. Then cancer surgery and treatment interrupted our plans for the past years. This is a belated 21st b’day present to our son, a 30th and 60th b’day present to my daughter and I. Hubby isn’t celebrating he said, since he’s footing the bill 😂

MustLoveBeagles

(12,966 posts)
60. Same here
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 04:37 PM
Mar 2023

In years past I vacationed several times and even breifly lived there. Spent part of my honeymoon there. I can't in good concience go there while this nonsense is going on. I won't enable it.

allegorical oracle

(3,974 posts)
67. As a Floridian, was hesitant to urge DUers to boycott my home state. However, power and $$ are the
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 05:47 PM
Mar 2023

only apparent persuasive power that Repugs understand.

DeSatan is running roughshod over Florida because the Legislature gives him total control. It's going to get worse before it gets better.

My morning reading of news headlines from the north Fla. area was jammed with news of shootings that occurred over the weekend. Yet nothing will be done with politicians expanding gun use.

So tell your friends/relatives to enjoy themselves and vacation elsewhere -- states that are safer and that care about their residents and visitors.

TheBlackAdder

(29,216 posts)
13. When the government controls the mode of production.
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 08:21 AM
Mar 2023

.

They are authoritarians, and are now incorporating Marxist communist traits ---- That's STALINISM!

On second thought, with their authoritarianism, oligarch support and control on industry, they are now venturing into PUTINISM!

.

Botany

(73,151 posts)
3. Ron Mc'White Boots says what?
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 07:23 AM
Mar 2023


That mother fucker has a Hitler complex and going after a business that brings billions of
dollars into Florida is not smart.

Botany

(73,151 posts)
18. " Booty McBootface" Love it I'm stealing it.
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 08:39 AM
Mar 2023

In the pix I posted I like the military guy laughing @ Gov. Booty McBootface and he
has to have his name on his clothing too. What a dick.

B.See

(4,363 posts)
22. Hitler Complex is Right
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 09:15 AM
Mar 2023

Trouble is, that mfkr has his sights set on the presidency and if we aren't careful and AWAKE enough to recognize the threat this mfkr poses to us ALL, he'll turn all of America into the FASCIST STATE he's turned Florida into.

Botany

(73,151 posts)
26. We can start fighting him right now calling him "Booty McBootface" 24/7
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 09:39 AM
Mar 2023

Last edited Wed Mar 1, 2023, 10:35 AM - Edit history (1)

Welcome to DU

B.See

(4,363 posts)
29. Thanks.
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 09:48 AM
Mar 2023


Sharpton calls him "Little Trump" ... trying to out Trump TFG. Funny, isn't it, how MAGAS always seem to aspire to the most gutter mentalities?

"No low, too low."

Botany

(73,151 posts)
33. As long as the appellation "Booty McBootface" is used. "Booty McBootface" will leave a mark on ...
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 10:39 AM
Mar 2023

.... that covid spreading tin horn dictator. No more Mr. Nice Guy to Governor J Booty McBootface



Just like Plowy Mc'Plowface.

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hippywife

(22,767 posts)
52. Yeah, coz...
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 02:33 PM
Mar 2023

that's gonna leave a mark. Just look at all the derision thrown at trump that kept him from being elected.

Lovie777

(16,484 posts)
4. The Disney family have very little control from what I read on the internet.....
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 07:38 AM
Mar 2023

Watt Disney must be turning in his grave. The ghost of the pass will come to haunt DeSatan along with the ghosts of the present and the future.

Most Americans see a dictator in Florida.

FloridaBlues

(4,443 posts)
6. Only in his head can he control what Disney produces in movies
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 07:49 AM
Mar 2023

Or anything else they put out for the public.
He doesn’t have authority to oversee anything but taxing, maintenance of roadways etc. I’d say don’t mess with Disney on production.

Irish_Dem

(63,531 posts)
7. Just like in Russia, where Putin controls the oligarchs and their businesses.
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 07:53 AM
Mar 2023

Putin initially used the oligarchs to get "elected" as supreme leader.
Once he was in office he told them he was now in charge of them.
They better obey him or face being thrown out a window.

ancianita

(39,557 posts)
47. More like Orban of Hungary.
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 01:54 PM
Mar 2023
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/05/18/cpac-hungary-lgbtq-orban-florida-desantis/

...When criticized by influential players — most notably Disney, among Florida’s largest private employers — DeSantis wheeled down the path of confrontation. His state government passed a second law, punishing Disney’s executives for speaking out by moving to dissolve the special jurisdiction that allowed the company to maintain its own regulatory and tax provisions in the vast chunk of central Florida where it operates Disney World.

As Beauchamp noted, this approach is far more extensive in Hungary under Orban, who has used the power of the state to deprive a critical business leader of contracts and built a system where it behooves major commercial interests to toe the ruling party’s line.

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,407 posts)
9. Disney is way too BIG to be told what to do...
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 08:00 AM
Mar 2023

By little Ronnie-white boots.

I would assume that Mickey Mouse has powerful Lawyers that could bankrupt Florida many times over.

This is a fight Ronnie D will not win.

65. Disney Studios will be 100 years old this year
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 05:33 PM
Mar 2023

I figure they’ve taken the long view, that they’ll still be around long after DeSantis and his cronies are literally dead and buried.

Walleye

(37,546 posts)
11. He would never succeed if he were governor of a cold state with miserable weather
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 08:12 AM
Mar 2023

He enjoys the benefits of his geographical and climatic situation, otherwise nobody would even come to Florida. Does he ever have to do governor stuff?

House of Roberts

(5,838 posts)
14. I'm waiting for the lawsuit against DeSatan by Disney.
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 08:27 AM
Mar 2023

Now that he's changed their profitability in Florida they have a tort to settle with him.

FBaggins

(27,979 posts)
17. Think that through again
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 08:38 AM
Mar 2023

Congress passes a law that costs corporations some of their profits… can those corporations sue claiming a tort?

Of course not

The lawsuits will eventually come against the new Reedy Creek board when they abuse their authority. But Disney can’t do anything to overturn state law of this sort

House of Roberts

(5,838 posts)
20. Passing a law that affects all corporations in a state is different from a law only affecting one.
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 09:06 AM
Mar 2023

They have an arguable case against being singled out. Disney agreed to locate in Florida based on the conditions at the time, with no agreed upon time limit. Changing the rules after they've invested their money in their facility is a government taking. I worked for a company that agreed to locate in my town for a 25 year tax abatement. Had the town rescinded the deal after they located, they would have had a textbook case of government taking. DeSantis is bound by the terms Disney agreed to when they located there, if there was no agreed upon expiration date.

FBaggins

(27,979 posts)
24. All that occured is their local government changed hands
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 09:33 AM
Mar 2023

You can’t sue on the basis that you have a right to control your local government.

You’re imagining a contractual obligation like a county incentivizing a company to relocate… but no such contract exists. If that were true, Disney would have breached that deal decades ago when they failed to build the prototype community that EPCOT was originally planned to be.

LetMyPeopleVote

(157,918 posts)
21. This bill will not affect operations of the parks at Walt Disney World or Disney content
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 09:12 AM
Mar 2023

Reedy Creek is in effect a municipal utility district and does not control WDW activities


FBaggins

(27,979 posts)
27. Sabatini's post is nonsense
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 09:39 AM
Mar 2023

Is Disney still exempt from county sales and property taxes? Sure! But they were exempt because they paid taxes instead to RCID… and that was only a benefit because they controlled the district. Now they don’t.

Can Disney still issue tax-free bonds? No… and they never could. The district could issue those and they controlled the district. Now they don’t… clearly not a win.

Does Disney have expedited permitting? No… they have permitting through the district instead of the county - and it could be expedited because they controlled the district. Now they don’t.

LetMyPeopleVote

(157,918 posts)
57. You are WRONG
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 03:16 PM
Mar 2023

One of the reasons why DeathSantis had to back down was the fact that dissolving Reedy Creek would have forced two Florida counties to assume $2 billion in bond debt.

FBaggins

(27,979 posts)
59. Sorry... that's just as nonsensical
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 04:24 PM
Mar 2023

DeSantis didn't "back down" - he escalated.

The original plan would have left a pair of blue counties as Disney's ongoing government services/control. Would that have transferred debt from the district (effectively Disney) to the counties? Yes... but the legislature said last year that they were going to "fix" that. They could have just changed the law such that the counties could still pass the burden on to Disney. But that would have been complicated and still left blue counties as Disney's local government.

Now it's his own hand-picked nutcase board that will be in charge... killing two birds with one stone. They debt obligation stay with Disney and now the next time they need to issue bonds... it's DeSantis' pets who will decide whether to do and how much to tax Disney for it.

I have no idea how you spin that as "backing down"... let alone why you think it's relevant to Sabatini's ridiculous spin.

The Grand Illuminist

(1,740 posts)
32. Allow me to coin the term "Equal Blood"
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 10:37 AM
Mar 2023

Meaning the blood on DeSantis' hands is the same amount as the blood on his voters hands. Voter accountability.

bluestarone

(18,722 posts)
34. Only ONE thing that will stop this BULLSHIT! (almost impossible though)
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 10:45 AM
Mar 2023

Break up the CULTISTS running the state! The PEOPLE in Florida are the only ones that can STOP DEATHSANTIS!! I wish, somehow the FEDS could get in there and INVESTIGATE this state. (no proof, BUT i'm certain things would be uncovered!) THEY are DIRTY DIRTY DIRTY!!!

Initech

(103,459 posts)
50. The propaganda is the problem!
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 02:08 PM
Mar 2023

It's scary to think that the GOP is going full third world dictator on us and the idiots who watch Fox are agreeing with their every move. Fox News is fucking destroying this country and they are getting away with it. They're the 800 pound gorilla in the room that nobody wants to talk about. But they are doing untold, irreversable damage that may take decades to repair, if ever. If Desantis gets into power, there would be no stopping them.

Mopar151

(10,212 posts)
43. Yup. But he's only mostly full of organic manure.
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 01:06 PM
Mar 2023

In today's Republican party, he's a WOKE liberal! Now, Ted Cruz - there's a real MAGA! - overflowing with PCB sludge and plating waste, with a little dioxin sorbet'.

ancianita

(39,557 posts)
49. He can try to defend his contract controls, but it boils down to Disney's 1A rights of content.
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 01:58 PM
Mar 2023

This is a constitutional issue, not a contract issue.

AncientOfDays

(218 posts)
40. If Desantis succeeds ...
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 12:22 PM
Mar 2023

... people will stop watching/buying Disney content. Already "sanitized" versions of content are out there, only the cultists imbibe.

Wingus Dingus

(8,583 posts)
41. Weird, remember when GOPers were all about the hand of the free market deciding
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 12:51 PM
Mar 2023

which businesses were successful and which failed? I guess they got impatient waiting for Disney to "go broke" after "going woke", so now DeSadist has to step in and try to control their creative direction. It's a horse he can't stop whipping, as long as it gets him the culture-war attention he seeks.

Quanto Magnus

(1,074 posts)
53. They were never about the 'free market'
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 02:45 PM
Mar 2023

and while I do see some sarcasm in that statement....

just no.... they've never been about it.... They've lied about being for it for decades.... absolutely!

haele

(13,864 posts)
42. Nothing like telling a multi-national company you can control content because of the toe they have i
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 01:03 PM
Mar 2023

I'm sure Disney is as worried as Chevron would be if Florida added fees and regulations to franchise owners.
Disney parks in Florida are what precent of Disney revenue, plus what percent of Disney costs?
And it's not like Disney doesn't already have a 50 year plan in place to deal with climate change in Florida, so I suppose they could save money by turning it into a 20 year plan to shutter the parks and other venues if DiSantis pushed his little Hitler act too far.

Haele

PlutosHeart

(1,445 posts)
44. This fight is just nuts.
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 01:13 PM
Mar 2023

If Disney just pulled out of Florida that would end the conversation since people would be royally pissed. Might even be enough to bring him down.

Have to imagine there are other States that would welcome the parks.

FBaggins

(27,979 posts)
54. Hilarious that I keep seeing this suggestion with "just"
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 04:39 PM
Mar 2023

“Just” pull out of Florida.

As if that would be no big deal for this huge company but would be devastating for DeSantis.

Little could be further from the truth. It could drive Disney/ABC into bankruptcy.

jmowreader

(51,825 posts)
55. There's no way Disney COULD pull out of Florida
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 05:20 PM
Mar 2023

You’re talking about relocating a small city, and they’re in Orlando for a reason: it’s exactly two days’ drive from New York City to Orlando.

Initech

(103,459 posts)
66. It's not just Desantis. It's Fox News.
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 05:42 PM
Mar 2023

This whole thing started because Desantis is trying to win points with Fox and the right wing echo chamber so he could run for president. Everything he's following is straight out of Trump's playbook, but without the insane rage tweets.

Trump is just a symptom. Fox / AM radio / Sinclair / John Birch / Federalist Society / megachurches are the real problem that is facing this country. Trump's just a useful idiot to them, when he becomes too much of a risk, he'll be cast aside, and that's what it looks like is happening now. Same thing will happen to Desantis and anyone these assholes decide to run in the future. We have got to realize that the propaganda is the problem.

Initech

(103,459 posts)
45. Desantis can seriously go shove this "anti-woke" agenda up his ass.
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 01:31 PM
Mar 2023

Assuming he can get his head out of Rupert Murdoch's first.

Zilli

(286 posts)
56. Because DeathSantis apparently now controls the Disney land and controls the Disney World board,
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 08:24 PM
Mar 2023

does that mean that he now controls the world wide holdings of the Disney Company? He now controls the movie industry, the streaming sites and has control over content around the world? He has lost his mind and I'm hoping that Boba Fett and Fennec will pay him a visit. Especially Fennec.

LetMyPeopleVote

(157,918 posts)
58. What did Disney actually lose from its Florida battle with DeSantis?
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 03:17 PM
Mar 2023

This new law will not affect WDW operations



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/what-did-disney-actually-lose-from-its-florida-battle-with-desantis/ar-AA187kz2?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=5faa3681c21e476c81569612f4f914a5&ei=42

But what did Disney actually lose from its battle with DeSantis?

While the new law delivers some significant changes, the most crucial one is the canceling of a previous mandate that would have resulted in the total dissolution of the district. That earlier law, which DeSantis and state legislators rushed across the finish line in a sprint last spring, would have left taxpayers in Orange and Osceola counties, the two districts Disney straddles, saddled with debt owed by the district.

“That was something that a lot of people were worried about,” said Jacob Schumer, an attorney specializing in Florida local government and tax laws who has written about the bond-debt issue. “Nothing is going to change. The disaster that was gonna hit the county and the taxpayers around here other than Disney — it’s not going to affect them.”.....

But in other ways, it’s mostly business as usual, at least for now, experts say. Many essential privileges that made Reedy Creek unique remain intact, including the ability to issue bonds. “Those are the special things about what Reedy Creek did,” Schumer said.

Reedy Creek was born in part from the lessons that brothers Walt and Roy Disney learned from operating Disneyland in Anaheim, which opened in 1955. Their ambitions were curtailed by government red tape, having to work with the city for public services and on zoning issues. As the brothers looked to expand Disney’s footprint — only 10% of the people who came to Disneyland in California came from east of the Mississippi River — they wanted to have their own self-regulating system. The company eventually settled on Florida and worked with lawmakers to establish the Reedy Creek Improvement District in 1967. The theme park opened a few years later in 1971.

The district, spanning about 40 square miles in Orange and Osceola counties, provides everything from fire protection and emergency medical services to water systems, flood control and electric power generation. Its boundaries include four theme parks, two water parks, a sports complex, 175 miles of roadway, the cities of Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista, utility centers, more than 40,000 hotel rooms and hundreds of restaurants and retail stores, according to its website.

maxrandb

(16,214 posts)
62. BTW - Fuck Disney for their silence.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 07:27 PM
Mar 2023

The entire state of Florida should be boycotted to run, just for giving this fuckstick power, but seriously, double-fuck any business or corporation that is "just going to see how this goes".

maxrandb

(16,214 posts)
64. It's exactly like all the people in 2016 that saw what was coming
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 05:28 PM
Mar 2023

but said; "meh, how bad could he be?", or "let's just see how he governs", or "meh..its only 4 years, what damage could he do?"

Silence, in the face of fascism, is complicity.

Kid Berwyn

(19,071 posts)
69. Precisely.
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 08:09 PM
Mar 2023

Our voices were cough outweighed by those with deeper pockets and louder megaphones.

We did try.

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