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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsVice article on professors spotting ChatGPT essays because they're "garbage"
https://www.vice.com/en/article/epzjew/chatgpt-is-so-bad-at-essays-that-professors-can-spot-it-instantlyFor another professor who asked to remain unnamed, it was also that the essay was jarringly, clangingly wrong, that first raised their suspicions ChatGPT may have been involved. The essay, which addressed the work of critical theorist Judith Butler, was just nonsense, they said. It appeared to have mashed together various sources that talked about Butler and sexuality and gender and whatever It was a series of sentences that made their own kind of sense individually, but together made very little sense.
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There are also the tell-tale stylistic cues. It tends to produce essays that are filled with bland, common wisdom platitudes, said Bret Devereaux, visiting history lecturer at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, who recently encountered his own first ChatGPT-created assignment. It's sort of the difference between ordering a good meal at a restaurant, and ordering the entire menu in a restaurant, sticking it in a blender, and then having it as soup, he says. The latter is just not going to taste very good.
Then theres the fairly important point that ChatGPT is a barefaced liar. If its habit for fabrication isnt apparent in the essay itself, its likely to rear its head in the citations. The chatbot has a penchant for conjuring up entirely imagined works by sometimes fictitious authors. Its also been known to blend the names of less famous scholars with more prolific ones. ChatGPTs catch-22 is that you can only reliably spot its lies if youre a subject matter expert yourself, meaning a panicked student turning to the software an hour before deadline is likely to struggle to determine whats inaccurate.
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As I've posted here before, ChatGPT is a convincing bullshitter with no concern for truth.
I hope students will soon back off using it to cheat.
Darren Hicks, one of the professors quoted in the excerpt, has let his students know that anyone suspected of cheating with ChatGPT will be given an on-the-spot oral exam.
LisaM
(27,794 posts)If it weren't logistically impossible, I would say that every student should have to defend the material in a paper in every circumstance.
Given the probable lack of staffing to accomplish this (and the burdens adjunct professors already face) this probably isn't feasible. Unfortunately.
ProfessorGAC
(64,852 posts)...it was chemistry department policy to have a 3 question oral quiz every week. If one knew the material it would take 5 minutes, tops.
Every chem class I took did it. The blue book was for actual tests, other than midterm & final. The physics class was the same because the instructor adopted the policy.
Orals had to be slotted by the day before the bi-weekly test.
Every instructor did a good job planning, because if one did well on the 2 oral quizzes, a C was essentially guaranteed on the test. If one nailed the orals, a B+ or better was nearly a lock.
Now, I didn't go to a school with 300 students in organic chemistry. More like 60. Not sure how practical this approach would be in a much bigger school.
markodochartaigh
(1,128 posts)So, is it just a matter of time before it is elected president?
/s, not /s
sanatanadharma
(3,687 posts)"... a series of sentences that made their own kind of sense individually, but together made very little sense.
"... a convincing bullshitter with no concern for truth."
Someone needs to ask AIbot to write an essay to convince magas that their sources, conclusions, and morality are wrong and unchristian.