General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBill to Make Daylight Saving Permanent Reemerges From the Dark
Just when sun worshippers lost hope for longer days in gloomy winter months, the Senate may give permanent daylight saving another try.
Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., reintroduced the Sunshine Protection Act in the Senate on Wednesday, months after the same bill, which the Senate passed unanimously last March, died in the House at the end of the last session. The bill would end the practice of turning the clocks back one hour to standard time every November and make daylight saving time, which currently begins in March, last throughout the year.
Read more:
https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2944277755344-bill-to-make-daylight-saving-permanent-reemerges-from-the-dark
Johnny2X2X
(18,969 posts)Its silly we change the clocks still.
jimfields33
(15,692 posts)jcgoldie
(11,612 posts)It affects what time it gets dark in winter.
jimfields33
(15,692 posts)sir pball
(4,737 posts)jimfields33
(15,692 posts)Thank you so much!!!
jcgoldie
(11,612 posts)Depending on how far north you are, the days will still be a lot shorter in the winter because the southern hemisphere is tilted towards the sun. The difference with permanent DST would be an hour of daylight would be shifted in the winter from morning to afternoon so like where I live in the midwest in january instead of daylight from 730-430 it would be 830-530 for example. It would not affect from March to November at all because most of the country already uses DST then.
Let's say it got dark at 5:00 on Christmas, 2022. Well, if passed, Christmas would get dark at 6:00 instead. It will be an hour difference. Winters will always get dark earlier. Blame the Sun and gravity.
kysrsoze
(6,019 posts)Its so dark and depressing in winter with the sun going down at 4.
napi21
(45,806 posts)but it's outlived it's usefulness. Let's just keep a time, standard or savings, I don't care.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Response to napi21 (Reply #3)
sarcasmo This message was self-deleted by its author.
rurallib
(62,379 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,044 posts)Ah well, the politicians never consult me and they can change time, adulterate money.
Polybius
(15,334 posts)But I see your point.
world wide wally
(21,738 posts)ms liberty
(8,558 posts)meow2u3
(24,759 posts)I have enough trouble with my cat meowing me awake until I get up to feed her; it's going to get worse if sunrise is at 9 in the morning.
Shermann
(7,399 posts)...and it's not because of its importance. It's the opposite, really. It's because it is a bike-shed issue.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_triviality
Everybody is affected by it, and nobody believes it to be particularly complex in nature. So, everybody has an opinion, and nobody is afraid to voice theirs. So here we are.
Journeyman
(15,024 posts)that way, everyone can feel they won something.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,417 posts)I'd rather the proposal pass as-is, and keep daylight savings time, but I could live with this compromise.
The problem is we'd be a half-hour off from the rest of the world.
Raine
(30,540 posts)Easterncedar
(2,261 posts)Make it standard time all year, and Im with you, but folks hated sending the kids off to school in pitch darkness. It lasted ONE winter.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,417 posts)I hate having it get dark early, for many reasons.
It would be so much better to have it light later in the day.
Easterncedar
(2,261 posts)Permanent DST in the US was briefly enacted by president Richard Nixon in 1974, in response to the 1973 oil crisis. The new permanent DST law was retracted within the year. Year-round daylight saving time was initially supported by 79% of the public, but that support had dropped to 42% after its first winter.
Santayanas rule, exemplified.
2naSalit
(86,323 posts)It almost doesn't matter. It's going to be a really short day no matter what. So what if it's sunrise at 8 or 9? You're still probably going to work in the dark and going home in the dark.
jcgoldie
(11,612 posts)As a small farmer who works an 8-4 job off the farm that extra hour of daylight in the afternoon during the depths of winter would be invaluable.
2naSalit
(86,323 posts)I just remember going to work in the dark in the winter much of my life, when stationary.
What's wrong with, what is it, Standard Time? Why can't we have that all year?
It never made sense to me and when I was blasting across time zones all the time, it just added another layer of complexity to everything.
Silent3
(15,147 posts)Even when I lived in NH (which was just six months ago), I preferred the idea of permanent standard time.
Now that I'm living in Ohio, a lot further west in the same timezone, permanent standard time is even more appealing.
It's pretty damned dark in the in the depths of winter here in Ohio, in the early morning when kids are picked up from school. Permanent DST would make that much worse.
FemDemERA
(224 posts)We were to go all standard time, like Arizona and Hawaii.
My inner clock would be happy with that
friend of a friend
(367 posts)Then every state will vote on it and those opposed can secede from the union. I'm just beating her to it.
keithbvadu2
(36,655 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 3, 2023, 12:25 AM - Edit history (1)
Raine
(30,540 posts)Montauk6
(8,064 posts)Or is that just my "fuzzy history" kickin' in again?
winetourdriver01
(1,154 posts)Montauk6
(8,064 posts)Zeitghost
(3,845 posts)The change is a minor inconvenience in the spring, but I prefer aligning the standard workday to daylight hours. I think it makes the most sense for the most people.
maxsolomon
(33,244 posts)Up here at 47 degrees north, it makes sense to switch back and forth.
As I've said repeatedly on this topic, DST puts the daylight where it is most useful.
I don't need the sun to come up before 5 am in the summer. I like it to stay light until almost 10.
And F Rubio no matter what he proposes.
meadowlander
(4,388 posts)than to make the entire country readjust their biological clocks twice a year.
wishstar
(5,268 posts)Where I live those who must go to school and work by 7 am are already in the dark and will have to endure even darker mornings in winter if we go under permanent DST. Now many workers and school kids are able to have some light in morning and then go home by 5:30 when there is still some daylight but they won't benefit much with extended evening daylight if they have to get out in the cold and dark in mornings.
Possible solution if we go to DST is to change school and work hours to let people go in an hour earlier and leave an hour later.