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Reply Great Tweet: You've Been Entertained By Drag Your Whole Life... (Original post)
GGoss Mar 3 OP
LakeArenal Mar 3 #1
Funtatlaguy Mar 3 #11
Artcatt Mar 3 #36
Wounded Bear Mar 3 #2
SWBTATTReg Mar 3 #3
reACTIONary Mar 3 #44
John1956PA Mar 3 #4
scarletlib Mar 3 #6
GGoss Mar 3 #26
John1956PA Mar 3 #28
MissMillie Mar 4 #63
yellowdogintexas Mar 4 #72
John1956PA Mar 4 #74
Runningdawg Mar 3 #5
ybbor Mar 3 #7
Mr. Evil Mar 3 #13
ybbor Mar 3 #37
FM123 Mar 3 #14
ybbor Mar 3 #39
FM123 Mar 4 #52
CTyankee Mar 3 #45
FM123 Mar 4 #53
The Polack MSgt Mar 4 #78
Initech Mar 3 #8
JudyM Mar 4 #57
Initech Mar 4 #70
Metro135 Mar 3 #9
ybbor Mar 3 #43
Maraya1969 Mar 4 #54
ybbor Mar 4 #55
Maraya1969 Mar 4 #56
shrike3 Mar 4 #68
Earth-shine Mar 3 #10
Ray Bruns Mar 3 #12
Earth-shine Mar 3 #24
skypilot Mar 3 #42
Earth-shine Mar 3 #50
maxsolomon Mar 3 #15
speak easy Mar 4 #59
maxsolomon Mar 4 #76
speak easy Mar 4 #77
pnwmom Mar 3 #16
area51 Mar 4 #62
Merlot Mar 4 #79
Collimator Mar 4 #80
overleft Mar 3 #17
Rhiannon12866 Mar 3 #23
JanLip Mar 3 #29
Rhiannon12866 Mar 3 #31
twodogsbarking Mar 3 #18
roamer65 Mar 4 #58
Warpy Mar 3 #19
Whatthe_Firetruck Mar 3 #51
Mr. Evil Mar 3 #20
BumRushDaShow Mar 3 #21
Wolf Frankula Mar 3 #22
AllaN01Bear Mar 3 #25
Butterflylady Mar 3 #46
Jade Fox Mar 3 #27
John1956PA Mar 3 #30
The Time is Now Mar 3 #32
soldierant Mar 3 #33
republianmushroom Mar 3 #34
rubbersole Mar 3 #38
rubbersole Mar 3 #35
Paladin Mar 4 #71
paleotn Mar 3 #40
DET Mar 3 #41
Aussie105 Mar 3 #47
lame54 Mar 3 #48
MotorCityBeard Mar 4 #60
thenelm1 Mar 4 #64
Talitha Mar 3 #49
BobTheSubgenius Mar 4 #61
mikeysnot Mar 4 #65
GGoss Mar 4 #67
Texin Mar 4 #66
hay rick Mar 4 #69
halfulglas Mar 4 #73
yellowdogintexas Mar 4 #75
eppur_se_muova Mar 4 #81

Response to GGoss (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 07:34 PM

1. My fav. Jethrine Bodine on Beverly Hillbillies.

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 08:25 PM

11. Love it.

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:38 PM

36. Uncle Milty!!

Öwho supposedly rocked a sizable package.

[link:|

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 07:37 PM

2. K & R...nt

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 07:38 PM

3. I laughed and thought how appropriate this post is. I also thought that we've been entertained by

republicans somewhat, being that they've always been a 'drag' on the rest of us. And by the way, I've been to probably hundreds of drag shows over 40 years or so, I've yet to see a show where there were children there. So again, republicans are beating the drums of doom over NOTHING. They are lying to us again w/ a non-issue.

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Response to SWBTATTReg (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:45 PM

44. I've been to quite a few myself....

... and I've never seen anything obscene.

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 07:40 PM

4. Robert Preston in Victor Victoria (1982)

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Response to John1956PA (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 07:54 PM

6. One of my favorite movies.

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Response to John1956PA (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:07 PM

26. Does THIS Work ???

 








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Response to GGoss (Reply #26)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:15 PM

28. Yes! Thanks for the directly-working link.

Mr. Preston had a great time with that role. At the end of the movie, when he was performing in stage in drag, his laughter seemed almost as if he was breaking character.

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Response to John1956PA (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 11:12 AM

63. I LOVE THAT MOVIE!!!! (n/t)

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Response to John1956PA (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 01:10 PM

72. the ultimate!! Especially Shady Lady From Seville! A favorite for years

Victor, Victoria is on my permanent top movie list. It is pure perfection. The script, casting, physical comedy - everything is awesome.

I really hated that Preston did not get an Oscar but he was up against Lou Gosset and Charles Durning.

If you have never seen this movie, find it and watch it.

It is Blake Edwards' masterpiece.

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Response to yellowdogintexas (Reply #72)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 01:19 PM

74. It was a great pleasure for me to watch it when it first aired on TV in the 1980s.

James Garner and Julie Andrews had great chemistry going back to "The Americanization of Emily." Watching Robert Preston's character as the comedic inflection point was sheer joy. I think Mr. Preston was allowed to go off script and improvise. He seemed to be having a great time in performing.

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 07:44 PM

5. Try bringing that up to a MAGAt. They will quickly tell you none of those characters

were trying to molest their kids. Bring up the fact their preachers, teachers and boy scout leaders have that covered and watch them not give a damn.

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Response to ybbor (Reply #7)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 08:32 PM

13. I used to love Flip Wilson when I was growing up!

Just so happens, I named the best dog I ever had after him.

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Response to Mr. Evil (Reply #13)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:40 PM

37. One of the first comedians I was introduced to

His show was canít miss. Geraldine was a special treat! Such a wonderful memory!

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Response to ybbor (Reply #7)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 08:34 PM

14. Oh, how I loved Geraldine!

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Response to FM123 (Reply #14)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:41 PM

39. Her (am I allowed to say that? 😜) voice was spot on!

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Response to ybbor (Reply #39)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 12:16 AM

52. Oh that voice,

I can still hear "the devil made me do it"

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Response to FM123 (Reply #14)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:55 PM

45. Do you remember his bit of Geraldine, the preacher's wife relating how the Devil made her buy a new

dress?

"And then he pulled a gun!"

It never failed to make me laugh...

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #45)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 12:19 AM

53. Some episodes I remember better than others

but Geraldine always made me laugh!

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Response to ybbor (Reply #7)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 03:43 PM

78. Glad I scrolled down and saw this, I was about to find a Geraldine pic to post.

My dad's favorite show

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 08:15 PM

8. It's the fucking conspiracy theory bullshit.

Conspiracy theorists are going to be the end of this country if we don't stop them.

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Response to Initech (Reply #8)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 02:21 AM

57. Did you happen to catch Terry Gross yesterday? Excellent interview on the subject.

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Response to JudyM (Reply #57)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 01:03 PM

70. No but I will check that out!

Q Anon is some scary shit. Itís not something to be taken lightly. Itís a legitimate threat to the stability of this country.

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 08:18 PM

9. I'd rather have a drag queen babysit my kids

than a priest. Odds are much better that the priest will be a pedophile, not the drag queen.

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Response to Metro135 (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:44 PM

43. On of my favorite priests...

Married my sister, funeral for my Nana, abused one of my best friendís brother for years!

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Response to ybbor (Reply #43)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 01:10 AM

54. That middle part "Funeral for my Nana" doesn't seem to fit. What do you mean?

I was sexually abused by a minister for about 3 years myself. I know so many of them are just creeps.

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Response to Maraya1969 (Reply #54)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 01:12 AM

55. He said the mass

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Response to ybbor (Reply #43)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 01:17 AM

56. Oh so he didn't really MARRY your sister he MARRIED your sister

to someone else! I thought the guy was your brother in law!

Could not understand why you threw in your Nana's funeral

Oh damn I am dying here!

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Response to ybbor (Reply #43)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 12:37 PM

68. So sorry that happened.



I have had five (so far) male acquaintances turn out to be predators. None were clergy. All were married. Four were fathers. I was shocked when each was arrested. You can't tell. They look like anybody else. The only thing they had in common was that they "loved kids" and spent a lot of time around them. It's gotten to the point where I get sick to my stomach if I hear that someone "loves kids."

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 08:19 PM

10. I saw a drag show recently with the seniors group. Most of us 70+.

Gotta say, I didn't enjoy it all. I was expecting comedy and fashion, but the show was nothing but rigorous erotic dancing.

It wasn't sweet. It wasn't funny. It was not striptease, but was a kind of very physical, often gymnastic dancing, while people put dollars in the performers' skin-tight and glittery outfits.

Other people said they enjoyed the show. But no one seems to want to go back.

I have to say, I would not have enjoyed this show if it consisted of actual women, either.

So, if my experience is any indication of what a drag show is, it is very different than the scenes from the comedic movies and TV shown above. The only one acting seductively is Bugs Bunny!

There are a number of Bugs Bunny eps when he wears drag. My favorite Bugs episode of all time is "The Rabbit of Seville."

Elmer Fudd is singing that he wants to "eat a rabbit." So Bugs puts on drag, and dances while singing "What do you want with a rabbit? Can't you see that I'm much sweeter? I'm your little senorita."

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Response to Earth-shine (Reply #10)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 08:31 PM

12. That sounds like a strip show, not a drag show.

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Response to Ray Bruns (Reply #12)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 08:56 PM

24. No stripping. Just erotic costumes.

Before the first act, they gave people a chance to acquire $1 bills. (For example, to cash in a $20.)

And as a dancer would pass a seat, people would put the dollars in the outfits.

Some of these dancers were doing these spread-eagled somersaults. Impressive, but not interesting.

Yes, similar to strip. But, the dancers stayed in their costumes.

This was the place ...

https://www.fladragshow.com/

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Response to Earth-shine (Reply #10)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:43 PM

42. Some of the videos...

...posted on the Twitter thread in the OP were eye-opening. Story time with a drag queen is one thing but what I saw in those videos was not appropriate for children and there WERE children in attendance.

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Response to skypilot (Reply #42)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 10:58 PM

50. Well, there were no kids with our group of seniors on a bus trip.

Many people were filming the performers. The lead person, who seemed to be a big man with a wig and very real-looking breasts, encouraged filming and photos.

All of the performers were muscular, super-fit men. Yet, some could also really pass as women.

It was a very hard-R-rated environment. But, not X-rated. Not for kids.

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 08:36 PM

15. These examples were all straight men (OK, Bugs is a straight rabbit).

Homophobia is the difference.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #15)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 09:39 AM

59. ' Bugs is a straight rabbit'

I'm not sure about that.

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Response to speak easy (Reply #59)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 02:33 PM

76. Fair point.

Don't tell the gay-panicked Right.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #76)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 02:50 PM

77. Exhibit 'G'

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 08:37 PM

16. I agree that it makes no sense for Republicans to get in a huff about this. But, as a woman,

I never much enjoyed that type of humor.

When men acted in drag in those roles, it always felt to me like they were caricaturing women -- making fun of them. So, it just wasn't funny to me.

But everyone has their own sense of humor. Obviously the bans are ridiculous.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #16)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 10:50 AM

62. +1 n/t

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #16)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 04:50 PM

79. Agreed.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #16)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 04:52 PM

80. I think that you can tell a lot about how a man. . .

. . . feels about women by the way they approach drag. With Monty Python, I sensed a kindness and respect there in their play acting as the opposite sex. Sure, they were poking fun, but they more often fully skewered certain male British types of personas.

Many, many decades ago, there was a player on Saturday Night Live who did female characters. I couldn't shake the sense that his dislike of women was channeled into his performance. I also got the feeling that this actor was Gay, and I do know that Gay men do not generally hate women and that a dislike of women is NOT why they are Gay.

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Response to overleft (Reply #17)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 08:54 PM

23. And he was terrific!

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #23)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:17 PM

29. Barny

One of my favorites. Also Harvey and Tim on Carol Barnette.

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Response to JanLip (Reply #29)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:26 PM

31. Andy Griffith was one of my mother's all time favorite shows

And I still watch it since it's still on quite frequently, it's always a welcome break from dealing with the news. Not to mention, we always watched Carol Burnett in my house, too!

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 08:42 PM

18. Add Bob Hope and Milton Berle to the list.

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Response to twodogsbarking (Reply #18)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 02:31 AM

58. +1000

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 08:42 PM

19. "We're all born naked. Everything else is drag"--Ru Paul

Remember the drag show in "South Pacific?" That was in the squeaky clean 1950s.

All the female characters in Shakespeare's plays were performed by young guys in drag.

This is not a new thing.

Grow the ruck up, you bluenosed, right wing Christian assholes.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #19)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 11:12 PM

51. My favorite Shakespeare play is a comedy called...

... As You Like It. The layers of drag in this one is surreal.

Where a young male actor (originally) would portray the female character Rosalind, who ran away with her 'female' friend (another boy actor) to the forest from some rotten nobles. Rosalind dressed as a boy to protect her friend, and found the trees adorned with terrible bits of verse extolling her as Rosalind. Curious, she tracked down the doggeral writer who was enamored of her from when he ran into her at court before she fled. She then convinces the young lover who does not recognize her, to woo her (well, 'him' ) as if 'he' was Rosalind in order to get pointers on upping his romance game.

So we have an actual boy, portraying a girl, who was dressed as a boy, and 'pretending' to be the girl.

I saw a PBS presentation of it filmed in outdoor locations, and loved it.

Eta: was probably the BBC 1978 TV version, but couldn't find it on youtube. I did find a colorized 1936 rendition.

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 08:47 PM

20. Went to a drag show in New Orleans in 2016.

I was with my then girlfriend and my two really good friends (husband and wife) from Tampa. We ate and drank well wandering around the French Quarter (as I've done dozens of times in previous years). As our buzzes grew we were looking for something to do out of the ordinary, so to speak. Only about 40 feet away was a theater (bar) that had drag shows. We hemmed and hawed and then we all came to a consensus. What the fuck! Let's do it and see what it's all about. We all had a thoroughly great time. It was fantastic. Two of the dancers came to our table and thanked us for being enthusiastic (alcohol) as we were. It was my first dedicated drag show and we all had a great time.

I wasn't accosted, I wasn't hit on, I wasn't injured, I wasn't freaked out. It was a very good time. Everyone in the crowd was just as enthusiastic and enjoyed themselves too.

To me, they're just another segment of our fucked up society that's easily marginalized and exploited for political gain. Our country is really descending into a pathetic state.

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 08:51 PM

21. Tyler Perry

is a billionaire thanks to -

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 08:52 PM

22. Those Bastards want to ban Benny Hill

Let's ban Tennessee.

Wolf

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Response to AllaN01Bear (Reply #25)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 10:03 PM

46. My absolute favorite!

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:09 PM

27. Jack Benny from way back....

Bing Crosby and Danny Kaye doing "Sisters".

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:21 PM

30. "The Bridge on the River Kwai." Best Picture Oscar 1957.

The prisoners put on a drag show to celebrate their completion of construction of the bridge

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:27 PM

32. And who can forget

https://ew.com/article/2016/08/24/stephen-colbert-donald-trump-rudy-giuliani-drag-sketch/

Not sure exactly how to post this. Seem to be getting the URL.

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:29 PM

33. I"ve never really been attracted todrag as a genre personally - but

I'm well aware it has meeb entertaining people literally for millennia. So that's probably a definiency of humor in me.

And I have almost always found Monty Python incredibly amusing.

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:30 PM

34. Yep

and they grew up with them and probably allow their children to still watch them.

My favorite Rudy Giuliani.

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Response to republianmushroom (Reply #34)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:40 PM

38. With tfg rubbing his face on him.

Disgusting then, disgusting now. Easy to Google.

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:36 PM

35. "Some Like It Hot" w/Marilyn Monroe.

Jack Lemmon and Tony Curtis -- drag city.

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Response to rubbersole (Reply #35)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 01:09 PM

71. One of my faves. A genuine classic. (nt)

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:42 PM

40. They've got to hate somebody...

Jebus commands it.

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 09:42 PM

41. If You Want To See Drag...

Just walk down Commercial Street in Provincetown. Here, there, and everywhere.

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 10:24 PM

47. Are the outrage fire stokers running out of topics?

Seems so.

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 10:30 PM

48. The Kids in the Hall

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Response to lame54 (Reply #48)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 10:08 AM

60. Thank you! I was looking through this whole thread for them to be mentioned.

I've always loved The Kids in the Hall and their drag. I really don't think of it as drag, though. They really created some great female characters. Cathy with a C, Kathy with a K, Tammy, The Queen, etc.

Little Britain was another great comedy sketch show with some great female (drag) characters.

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Response to MotorCityBeard (Reply #60)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 11:22 AM

64. Speaking of Britain - Monty Python did lots of skits with one or more of them in drag. n/t

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Fri Mar 3, 2023, 10:36 PM

49. Bazinga!!!

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 10:28 AM

61. It's the soapbox du jour.

Along with fellow travellers.

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Response to mikeysnot (Reply #65)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 11:41 AM

67. Oh That's Right !!!

 

Long Lost Footage Shows Rudy Giuliani Dressed In Drag with Donald Trump



Thanks for the reminder !






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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 11:25 AM

66. My favorite was The Bird Cage.

Gene Hackman at the end of that film was hilarious.

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 12:53 PM

69. It's just another hypocrisy bandwagon.

Haters gotta hate.

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 01:16 PM

73. The whole thing is so hypocritical.

Brings to mind the hypocrisy of their stand on trans people. Yet, their canonization of Ashli Babbit as a martyr for their cause. They don't really care if it's somebody trying to bring down the US Government for their cause.

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 01:46 PM

75. "To Wong Foo Thanks for Everything! Love, Julie Newmar"

One of the best! Watching those three guys is a true delight.

They all appeared to be having a blast playing those characters, too

I have been to 2 drag shows. One was a drag beauty contest at a Stonewall Democrats fundraiser. It was so much fun but not appropriate for kids due to language and some fairly suggestive moves. The gowns were great and everyone was having enormous fun,

The other was back in 1967 when I was in college. One of the fraternities put on a "She-Male" contest as a fundraiser. I can't imagine anyone doing this now, unless it was a true drag show putting on a themed performance. & yes I know the name is awful, but this was the middle 60s. It was hysterical, mostly because every one of the men ran it to the hilt- The guys really looked like they were channeling Flip Wilson. Their costumes were very inventive and they were all having fun with it. I can still see in my mind's eye one of our star basketball players decked out in a very preppy outfit (skirt, sweater, hose & heels. He was already 6'5" He won by the way. He went on to play a few years of pro and then was an executive at KFC

Who would have thought that little Methodist liberal arts college would allow such a thing!!! Statistically at least one of them could have been gay but this was after all the 1960s in Kentucky and it was rare to meet anyone who was out.

Anyone here ever attend a Womanless Wedding? These used to be very popular back in the 50s in rural areas - as fundraisers. Again the guys put on a crazy show, never realizing they could have been inadvertently shaming their own friends, relatives or children who were still in the closet.

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Response to GGoss (Original post)

Sat Mar 4, 2023, 06:48 PM

81. If conservatives didn't have *someone* to beat up on, they'd have no sense of identity at all.

They see themselves as better than all those "other" types. It defines who they are, or so they believe.

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