Just for perspective: Watergate didn't happen with COVID, didn't have libraries full of evidence...

[bigtree]

emptywheel @emptywheel 9h
Just for perspective: Watergate didn't happen with COVID, didn't have entire libraries full of evidence, didn't happen during era of encrypted apps, didn't feature 25 lawyer-witnesses, and didn't require immediate efforts to stave off a follow-up attack.

Peter Baker @peterbakernyt 9h
Just for perspective: The entire Watergate scandal, from the burglary to Nixon's resignation, took less time than the investigation into the Jan. 6 attack has now taken.

PeskyFact 🏴?☠️🌻 @PeskyFact
Doesn’t even make sense to start counting from J6. For 2wks post, we had a skeleton “govt”…half of whom apparently spent the time deleting comms, etc.

Watergate to resignation: 782 days

Since Jan 20: 772 days

Since March 11 (Garland sworn in): 722 days

Peter sucks at this.


WOWOW :

Link to tweet

...aside from WaPo doing most of the investigating...

Jun '72
5 arrested trying to bug DNC at the Watergate

Jan '73:
5 burglars & Liddy & McCord Jr. convicted

Mar '74
Indictments come down for “Watergate Seven,” (WH co-conspirators) Mitchell, Haldeman and Ehrlichman

To compare: This DOJ is already in court with the Jan. 6 henchmen, prosecuting Proud Boys, & convicting Oath Keepers for sedition and interfering with the vote.

That's well in line with the less complex Watergate prosecutions, with Trump WH conspirators before the grand jury right now.

Petty and dishonest criticism of DOJ, at this point.

[sheshe2]

1. Recommend

[Cheezoholic]

2. Thanks! n/t

[Justice matters.]

3. 5th Amendment... 5th Amendment... 5th.Amendment.

Appeals... Appeals... Appeals.

Delays... Delays... Delays.

LE "believing Trump"... LE "believing Trump"... LE "believing Trump"...

60 days before the Presidential Election... 60 days before the Presidential Election.

Presidential pardons... Presidential pardons... Presidential pardons.


Nixon didn't run again...

[ancianita]

4. So damn right you are!

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

5. I think we should be counting from January 6, which is 786 days.

So a year ago when people were urging patience, they had a point. Now, all this time later? And Trump has experienced ZERO consequences of any kind?

I have been mocked a lot here when I say I have no confidence that Trump will ever be indicted, much less tried, convicted, and jailed.

Perhaps I should start some kind of a lottery, guessing the date Trump will be indicted. My guess is never. My second guess is that the Second Coming will occur sooner.

And stop with the What's Happening in Georgia stuff, because again, nothing seems to be happening there.

Remember Fitzmas?

[Justice matters.]

6. There's a experienced Prosecutor in Georgia, one who successfully won a RICO case.

And she has an expert in RICO procedures on her team too.

She could turn out to be our only remaining hope to save democracy at this point.

Glenn Kirschner would probably have already locked up the traitor-in-chief by now, but we will never know.

[Grasswire2]

7. at this point....

...it is more rational to think that little or nothing will happen to hold him accountable than to believe or hope there will be a turning toward applying the Rule of Law without fear or favor.

We have a choice between FACTS and HOPE. HOPE for justice has brought us major disappointments.

One thing is true and sure. There is a segment of influencers working against application of equal justice under the law and that segment includes people whose loyalty is to an outside force (Federalist Society, mostly). This segment is inculcated in Justice Department personnel and others. Until that influence is purged from the quest for justice and accountability, we the people will still be tethered to foolish hopes.

How could Federalist Society be purged from influence in our justice system? How? I wonder.

We're about ... what ... thirty years? late in addressing this Federalist noose that's holding us back.

[Bev54]

8. In your world it seems it makes sense for Jack Smith to take all these lawyers to court for

their testimony, for fun, I guess, not because he is nearing the indictment stage? You have been provided with facts in the op but you chose to ignore them instead.

[Justice matters.]

9. The OP did not address the... delays, nor that, contrary to Nixon...

treasonous-telfon hair furhair is... running again... AND IF by some potential red-states tricks, including the biased EC (numbers of electors in many red states disproportionate compared to big blue states)... even from a potential Georgia State prison... or home confinement, the concealer of top-secret nuclear weapons/ and informers abroad ever manages to get the power to self-pardon (Federal ones)/co-conspirators pardons...

No need to write a demeaning line to others here.

[Grasswire2]

11. LOL

I said nothing of the sort.

[Captain Zero]

12. There was already a lottery/pool here for when

Indictments would come down on Trump.
The bets ranged from LAST FALL until the end of February this year.

The house seems to be winning.

[Hekate]

10. Kick. Rec. BOOKMARKING!

[Whiskeytide]

13. The biggest difference between the process following Watergate ...

… and the process following Тяцмp‘s 4 year crime spree is that in the 70s there was not a robust right wing media/propaganda machine shaping the opinions of 50% of the population. Public opinion shouldn’t matter to the DOJ and other prosecutors, but in today’s world it apparently does.

[bigtree]

14. damned if they do

...the latest dig against them is their prosecution might run up against an election.

Critics complaining that while they deliberate Trump runs free, as if it's the job of prosecutors to account for political realities or something, and not voters.

Go figure.