A friendly reminder for all the defeatists.

[fightforfreedom]

A special grand jury just recommended over a dozen people be indicted in Georgia. Willis has all but made it official she is going to bring forth indictments. In Georgia they are not investigating people who stormed the Capital. They are investigating the top coup plotters.

To still believe no one at the top will be indicted is unrealistic. The chances of you being wrong are very good.

Also, Smith is moving forward aggressively in both of his investigations. He is investigating Trump and the top coup plotters.

Basing your beliefs on investigations of the past, the belief the investigations are taking too long. Does not match up with the reality of what is actually taking place in all the investigations.

[Blues Heron]

1. link?

[fightforfreedom]

3. Link what, reality?

[Blues Heron]

5. Where is the link to the Grand Jury recomendations

[fightforfreedom]

10. I take it you don't follow the news. This has been reported on the news for weeks.

Google it. That's all you have to do.

[Blues Heron]

11. I thought maybe you had specifics on who is going to be indicted and when

[ancianita]

38. Willis' investigation is nearly over & her special grand jury can't indict, so she's convening

a regular grand jury to examine the special gj's recommendations. She'll have to populate the regular gj, then they'll have to do the work of examining everything the sgj decided. So by grand jury timelines, her description of "imminent" still holds.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/21/us/trump-georgia-grand-jury-indictments.html


As for SC Smith, his two criminal grand juries are ongoing, hearing testimony and seeing evidence until Mar, 2024. But his cgj's have gotten so high up in Trump's inner circle (had Pence's Chief of Staff in three times) that Pence and Meadows are the only majors left, with Ivanka and Jared only being inner circle confirmers of evidence & testimony from Trump people.

As to when, August looks good at the earliest. By end of year at the latest.

None of this is sufficient to satisfy naysayers who want to know everything and see action now, but this is as good as Americans get when ongoing investigations can't be revealed.

This should catch you up on things.

[Blues Heron]

39. thanks

[Skittles]

2. Donald Fucking Trump is PRESUMED to be running for president again

WHAT THE EVER-LOVING FUCK

[Meowmee]

4. Yep

That is what this country allows. Fascism in the name of fs.

[NewHendoLib]

16. This.

[brooklynite]

18. ...and Eugene Debs ran from prison.

[speak easy]

23. ... and supposing Debs had been elected?

[Easterncedar]

6. I'm a pessimist who appreciates your solid, fact-based optimism

It helps. Thanks.

[NewHendoLib]

7. Oh look... A Saturday morning OP title smear in concerned DUers

[Scrivener7]

12. And strawmen galore for added discord.

Wouldn't be a Saturday morning without it!

[NewHendoLib]

15. .

[BlackSkimmer]

25. Spot on. nt

[kentuck]

8. Beware the Ides of March...

They will be here soon.

[MayReasonRule]

9. Evidentiary Facts are the Provenance of Reason - - "Beliefs" are mere assertions...

Factual evidence reveals indictments are imminent.

Embrace reason.

Delusion divides.

Reason restores.

May reason rule.

[patricia92243]

13. I will be delighted to be wrong. n/t

[Beastly Boy]

20. There are many delighted people on DU already

Something to look forward to.

[Chainfire]

14. What I don't understand is why folks think that their prediction of the future is superior to

others.

The fact of the matter is that it has been over two years since we witnessed, live and in color, the President of the United States urging a takeover of the nation by invading the Capitol, by force, in order to illegally continue his presidency. Yet, still, the man is living a life of luxury, continuing spread lies and recruit anarchists, and is running for president again; now those are the facts.

https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=mcafee&ei=UTF-8&p=dont%27+go+hitting+me+with+all+of+those+negative+waves+moarity&type=E211US1490G0#id=1&vid=f2dee83c3b7b2dc2028919e5f94d8c5f&action=click

[NewHendoLib]

17. And countless election deniers forge on with their propaganda

[Skittles]

19. YES

OR WHY SUCH SPECULATION OCCURS ON A FREAKING POLITICAL INTERNET BOARD

[Scrivener7]

21. But also, don't miss the fact that the described prediction of the OP's

imagined opponents is not actually the prediction of anyone here.

[onecaliberal]

24. 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻

[BlackSkimmer]

27. This.

Thank you.

[LexVegas]

22. Discord. nt

[Kid Berwyn]

40. Seems to be the point.

Discord. Denigrate. Division. Discourage.

[Ferrets are Cool]

26. One man's defeatist is another man's realist.

Go drink your glass half full of tap water and I will savor my glass half empty of Crown.

[Martin Eden]

28. We all know the identity of the chief conspirator

The one who is more culpable than anyone else better be at the top of that indictment list.

[The Magistrate]

29. A Friendly Bit Of Advice, Sir

"Optimists meet frequent disappointment. Pessimists on occasion get a pleasant surprise."

[EmmaLee E]

34. A favorite quote ...

That I use

[onecaliberal]

30. I've been called worse by far better.

[Gore1FL]

31. Can you give dates? Date ranges? My soothsaying isn't as good as yours. nt

[Joinfortmill]

32. I'm with you!!

[jaxexpat]

33. I'll have to rely on your data as I have no direct line to/from Smith or Willis.

FFS FFF, if I'm tired of rumors sold as certainty, I'm sure someone else is as well.

I sincerely hope my cynicism is misplaced but it'll take an actual event to knock it off its perch.

[bucolic_frolic]

35. The wisdom of indicting all the perps in a very tight time window will become apparent

If you indict one, the others will make noise and fund raise and protest and agitate politically.

Indicted together, they will be relatively silent and powerless.

[jalan48]

36. After watching Garland respond to Ted Cruz in front of the Judiciary Committee I

tried to envision him in front of the American people telling us why he was indicting Trump and members of Congress for their roles in the Jan 6th coup attempt. I just can't picture the man doing it.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217698500

[judesedit]

37. This is how it happens when the perpetrator has access to tons of money

and lots of crooked lawyers and lobbyists from multiple countries behind them. They have so many they are investigating at the same time and they don't want it to be a waste of time, nor have room for appeal.

Unfortunately, there are many people sitting in jails waiting for a trial for, sometimes, years. Lets just hope the bastards get their due punishment before much longer, so we can have faith in the justice system again.

[Sympthsical]

41. A bit early

To call people names and pick a fight for no useful purpose.

And on a Saturday?

Let me have my coffee, first. Settle in. Get my boxing gloves from the garage.

I don't know why I feel like the Prince Harry stuff is a less weird investment than this tussling over who's better at predicting a future that has yet to arrive.

It's like if I went into the kitchen right now and said to my partner, "I think it might not rain later," and he responded, "How dare you! Of course it's going to rain!" then stormed out of the room in indignation. Then I poke head around the corner and shout at his back as he retreats up the stairs, "This is why no one likes your cooking!"

I mean, one of us will be right. Seems weird to take it so personally.

[ancianita]

42. K & R Thank you. Friendly reminders should be accepted in that spirit.

[BWdem4life]

43. I'm not a defeatist. I'm a cynic. Learn the difference.

And for god's sake stop labeling your fellow DUers for the sake of recs.