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OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 05:01 PM Mar 2023

Newsweek upends the world with an explosive new controversy: Grocery store checkout dividers.

Local News Anchor Sparks Fiery Debate Over Grocery Store Checkout Dividers

A local news meteorologist has gone viral after sparking a debate about the dividers used on the conveyor belts at grocery stores.

Ryan Vaughan is the chief meteorologist at Region 8 News in Jonesboro, Arkansas, on the KAIT network which is affiliated with ABC, NBC, and The CW.

He took to his official Facebook page to educate his followers on "how to use the divider"—the steel or plastic rectangle tube which indicates where one person's shopping ends—at a supermarket checkout.

...

He captioned the Facebook post: "I'm at the store tonight and noticed some of you don't know how to use the divider. You need to put it long ways to trip the sensor and keep a distance. Some of y'all use it as a privacy fence.."

https://www.newsweek.com/new-anchor-debate-grocery-store-divider-1785086

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Newsweek upends the world with an explosive new controversy: Grocery store checkout dividers. (Original Post) OilemFirchen Mar 2023 OP
LOL! OMG! LymphocyteLover Mar 2023 #1
Didn't know that. Kingofalldems Mar 2023 #2
I Have, Literally, Never Seen It Used That Way ProfessorGAC Mar 2023 #14
I will do that on occasion when I want all of the small order on the belt irisblue Mar 2023 #19
That's Clever ProfessorGAC Mar 2023 #24
Sometimes I have used it opposite the belt direction...mainly because there's so much stuff on the SWBTATTReg Mar 2023 #41
I still don't know that. Iggo Mar 2023 #34
you didn't know it because it is not a thing Takket Mar 2023 #37
early in the Covid crisis it was said not to treestar Mar 2023 #3
Well we wouldn't want to talk about McGonagall Fullduplexxx Mar 2023 #4
utter madness! LymphocyteLover Mar 2023 #5
I don't now but in the comments there was an embedded post supposedly from manufacturer hlthe2b Mar 2023 #9
The wrong aspect I think, is that BootinUp Mar 2023 #21
Local news meteorologist should stick to reporting the weather ornotna Mar 2023 #6
I like it! Auggie Mar 2023 #7
Stop already... lame54 Mar 2023 #8
LOL! LymphocyteLover Mar 2023 #10
I looked that dish up, Mezzi Rigatoni, I'd for sure order it, no matter how many at the table irisblue Mar 2023 #23
I'm sticking with making fences EYESORE 9001 Mar 2023 #11
No way. intrepidity Mar 2023 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author jimfields33 Mar 2023 #15
You are awesome! Seriously if only everybody was like you. jimfields33 Mar 2023 #16
Thank you. I like to be efficient and as unobtrusive as possible intrepidity Mar 2023 #45
i usually shop using a scooter if the store has one . i can quickly unload AllaN01Bear Mar 2023 #18
come off it man. im tired of hearing the nonsense . eeeeeeeeeeek!!!!! AllaN01Bear Mar 2023 #13
During covid the grocery stores in my area... brush Mar 2023 #17
Tell that to the person behind you unloading their entire cart practically on top of your stuff. tanyev Mar 2023 #20
That's one advantage of self checkout Kaleva Mar 2023 #31
I just asked a friend who runs register and she doesn't know what he means by "Trip the sensor" Quixote1818 Mar 2023 #22
15 degrees zipplewrath Mar 2023 #25
Oh, stop being woke, already! grumpyduck Mar 2023 #26
Proper Placement is 30 Degrees FrankTC Mar 2023 #27
It's always been a plot by Big Grocery to pad their profits through theft. OilemFirchen Mar 2023 #30
I'd rather have a discussion about whether people should park their carts rsdsharp Mar 2023 #28
along with treason, this should be punishible by death Takket Mar 2023 #38
I mean, if this was meant as anyone other than a joke ... muriel_volestrangler Mar 2023 #29
All I kniow is when I try to buy some new ones at Walmart TlalocW Mar 2023 #32
It really sucks for collectors. OilemFirchen Mar 2023 #33
OMG, when my wife gives me grief about my collections Pinback Mar 2023 #42
Yeah, and the J6 traitors were just delivering donuts. Tell me another one. Iggo Mar 2023 #35
Utter nonsense. That would waste too much space on the belt. Liberal In Texas Mar 2023 #36
I don't use it that way, but I am intrigued. LisaM Mar 2023 #39
A weatherman is wrong about something. Imagine that. Earth-shine Mar 2023 #40
That might make sense with the sparse populations in Arkansas Renew Deal Mar 2023 #43
I always put it at a slight angle localroger Mar 2023 #44

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
14. I Have, Literally, Never Seen It Used That Way
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 05:23 PM
Mar 2023

Every single time I've seen one used it's perpendicular to the belt direction.
I've even checkers grab one & put it behind the current order and even they don't run it lengthwise.
I'd like to know where the meteorologist got this information.
Also, Newsweek is covering this? How the mighty have fallen.

irisblue

(32,967 posts)
19. I will do that on occasion when I want all of the small order on the belt
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 05:27 PM
Mar 2023

So I can watch the prices as they are rung up.

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
24. That's Clever
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 05:34 PM
Mar 2023

Of course, we probably don't shop at the same supermarket! LOL!
I don't watch that closely, but I am a receipt checker. I also have a pretty good idea of cost before I even check out, so if the amount seemed wrong I wouldn't hit the "Yes" button for "Right Amount"?
But, using it like you do is pretty slick.

SWBTATTReg

(22,112 posts)
41. Sometimes I have used it opposite the belt direction...mainly because there's so much stuff on the
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 07:00 PM
Mar 2023

belt already and I want to ensure that the checker knows where the dividing line is between customers, sort of aid them a little bit. I don't do it very often, just when there is tons of stuff on the checkout belt.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
3. early in the Covid crisis it was said not to
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 05:05 PM
Mar 2023

touch it - let the cashier do it. So fewer different people would be touching it. It didn't work though. Cashiers I ran into never did anything with it.

Then Covid because less of a don't touch thing and a wear a mask thing.

LymphocyteLover

(5,643 posts)
5. utter madness!
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 05:08 PM
Mar 2023

I have used those countless times and not one clerk has ever said they should be used in that "right" parallel position. Crazy.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
9. I don't now but in the comments there was an embedded post supposedly from manufacturer
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 05:11 PM
Mar 2023

of these devices who said it was WRONG (horizontal use was correct).

BootinUp

(47,141 posts)
21. The wrong aspect I think, is that
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 05:28 PM
Mar 2023

when its the long way, its like you are taking up space that the next person in line would like to use. The meterologist bring up the aspect of some sensor. I can't say if hes right, maybe certain stores have a sensor that only works like he says who knows.

ornotna

(10,799 posts)
6. Local news meteorologist should stick to reporting the weather
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 05:09 PM
Mar 2023

This is what has your shorts twisted in a bunch?


intrepidity

(7,294 posts)
12. No way.
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 05:18 PM
Mar 2023

It's enough of a feat to get the cart unloaded and everything ready (cards out, bags ready) to be able to start bagging without the added delay of dead space on the conveyor. The checkers at my store are fast, ans I take it as my serious duty to keep up with them, so that when the receipt is printed and torn, I'm just finishing up bagging the last few items.

It's a well-practiced, orchestrated dance, and that extra foot of conveyor space would throw it all off.

No.

Response to intrepidity (Reply #12)

jimfields33

(15,769 posts)
16. You are awesome! Seriously if only everybody was like you.
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 05:23 PM
Mar 2023

The belt area is not big enough to begin with to have that thing go horizontal. Maybe for 10 items or less. But even then, it’s a crazy waste of space.

intrepidity

(7,294 posts)
45. Thank you. I like to be efficient and as unobtrusive as possible
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 11:48 PM
Mar 2023

in pretty much all aspects of my existence. The checkers seem to appreciate it and often comment on it, lol.

AllaN01Bear

(18,154 posts)
13. come off it man. im tired of hearing the nonsense . eeeeeeeeeeek!!!!!
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 05:19 PM
Mar 2023
i wish the owneers would put in a stupid icon.

brush

(53,764 posts)
17. During covid the grocery stores in my area...
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 05:25 PM
Mar 2023

Last edited Sat Mar 4, 2023, 06:03 PM - Edit history (1)

Las Vega, got rid of the dividers. There were 6ft apart footstep icons on the floor, but no converyor belt dividers.

Now thins are back to normal, and by normal I mean the dividers are used across the belt to separate orders. The other way as proposed in the photo makes little sense to me.

tanyev

(42,550 posts)
20. Tell that to the person behind you unloading their entire cart practically on top of your stuff.
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 05:27 PM
Mar 2023

Honestly.

Quixote1818

(28,928 posts)
22. I just asked a friend who runs register and she doesn't know what he means by "Trip the sensor"
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 05:29 PM
Mar 2023

She said in her store it doesn't matter at all. They push their hip against the button to move the belt. No sensor involved. Maybe newer stores have a sensor? She said something like this might irritate her just a bit as it would take a few more seconds before she could reach the food to start scanning it.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
25. 15 degrees
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 05:36 PM
Mar 2023

I've been known to place the divider at about a 15 degree angle from the "horizontal" configuration. It's mostly because many of them are hollow and the laser can shine right through them allowing the belt to continue to run.

Alternately, I've now spent more time on this subject than it really deserves. I've got to get back to that all important discussion about how many fairies can balance on the head of a pin.

FrankTC

(210 posts)
27. Proper Placement is 30 Degrees
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 05:38 PM
Mar 2023

Longitudinal placement (180 degrees) wastes too much belt space. People approaching the belt need to get their groceries on there, and if several preceding customers place their spacers longitudinally, there may be no room left on the belt.

Horizontal placement (0 degrees) means a narrow gap between orders, and people's groceries may touch across the spacer, depending on the shape of the items, of course. This means that one person's germs may migrate across the spacer and infect another person's groceries, leading to a mingling of illnesses, a veritable death cocktail, to the detriment of all.

Proper placement is about 30 degrees, give or take a few.

People are of course sick and tired of being told what to do, so don't expect this guideline to be widely adopted. Unless vigorously enforced. Maybe by scowls or shunning. No need to pack heat. Just bring a protractor.

Does this need a sarcasm symbol?

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
30. It's always been a plot by Big Grocery to pad their profits through theft.
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 06:06 PM
Mar 2023

Obviously the engineers at the massive corporations which design and manufacture grocery store checkout dividers were under strict orders to attempt an exact rectangle, just short enough on each end so as to allow certain selected products to worm through and be added to the forward customer's checkout. It's a perfect design for large volumes of Point-of-Purchase impulse products to be sold to unwitting customers. PoP displays only contain small items specifically designed to easily bypass the dividers' otherwise impenetrable defense against accidental throughput leakage - and that's not by accident.

We know that because, as you correctly observe, a parallelogram with 30° ends, exactly the adjusted width of the belt, and preferably equipped with spring-loaded bearings, would totally eliminate the possibility of "accidental" over-purchases. the fact that all divider designers opted for the sloppy single rectangle design proves the conspiracy.

CALL CONGRESS RFN! We cannot allow this to continue unchecked!

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
29. I mean, if this was meant as anyone other than a joke ...
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 05:53 PM
Mar 2023

It's a "divider" - he calls it that himself. It's there to "divide". It's not there to stop the conveyor. The goods can do that if it doesn't for some reason.

TlalocW

(15,380 posts)
32. All I kniow is when I try to buy some new ones at Walmart
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 06:15 PM
Mar 2023

The cashier keeps putting them to the side of the belt. I guess they don't want competition from my store.

Pinback

(12,154 posts)
42. OMG, when my wife gives me grief about my collections
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 07:13 PM
Mar 2023

I can show her this and say, “It could be worse!”

Liberal In Texas

(13,546 posts)
36. Utter nonsense. That would waste too much space on the belt.
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 06:36 PM
Mar 2023

The divider when crosswise easily trips the electric eye to stop the belt when it reaches that point.

Also, I have NEVER in all my years seen anybody in a store do this.

I've worked with a lot of local weathermen and weatherwomen over the years. Some of them I wouldn't trust to walk my dog.



LisaM

(27,801 posts)
39. I don't use it that way, but I am intrigued.
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 06:47 PM
Mar 2023

Mostly because I hate when the cashier starts ringing things up before I can get up to the register. This would make a forced stop. I also don't like when they don't stop the belt before I start unloading my groceries so I either have to run with the belt or there is a big gap.

Renew Deal

(81,855 posts)
43. That might make sense with the sparse populations in Arkansas
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 07:27 PM
Mar 2023

But places with actual people need to conserve space and use it the right way.

localroger

(3,626 posts)
44. I always put it at a slight angle
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 07:42 PM
Mar 2023

maybe ten degrees from pependicular to the belt, to make sure it catches the photo eye and stops the belt before getting past it. But putting it parallel to the belt is stupid. You don't need a divider nearly the width of the belt if you're going to use it that way.

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