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kentuck

(111,082 posts)
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 10:46 AM Mar 2023

How divided is the Republican Party?

It seems to me they have reached the point they feared all along.

At one time, the CPAC convention was the premier event for "conservatives" all across America. Now, it has become nothing more than a small gathering for a cult leader.

Republican fears have become a reality. Their Party has been successfully divided between the Old Guard and the Ultra-MAGA Republicans. They are now two Parties.

This could be the beginning of the end of the Party that began about 170 years ago? It is difficult to see how they glue themselves back together?

They knew it was quicksand when they stepped in it, but they just couldn't help themselves.

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How divided is the Republican Party? (Original Post) kentuck Mar 2023 OP
But they all seem to unite against anything we support. cachukis Mar 2023 #1
As long as no innocent people are hurt.................... Lovie777 Mar 2023 #2
They don't care if innocents are hurt, vlyons Mar 2023 #8
That is not an option for Republicans. ananda Mar 2023 #15
It only takes six Republicans to change to independent to fix it all. pwb Mar 2023 #3
I totally agree. Are there not even 6 decent, brave pukes? judesedit Mar 2023 #5
I bet if they dropped out their funding would disappear Auggie Mar 2023 #19
Yes, but in the end they will fall behind some Trump like figure to win at least national elections dutch777 Mar 2023 #4
Another way to see it. Prairie_Seagull Mar 2023 #6
Not divided enough. CrispyQ Mar 2023 #7
Consuming the long-term propaganda of false equivalences has rotted their minds. jaxexpat Mar 2023 #16
Hah! That was my first thought. Not divided enough. calimary Mar 2023 #17
i hope so. barbtries Mar 2023 #9
They simply don't have a clue about responsible governance. They've lost it completely.. Firestorm49 Mar 2023 #10
Ordinarily I'm a pessimist - but I an going to reserve judgement of Smith for a little longer. flashman13 Mar 2023 #18
It ain't the Party of Lincoln no more! Turbineguy Mar 2023 #11
They bought the "big lie" that they can only win with Chump and nobody else FakeNoose Mar 2023 #12
Crossing my fingers that you speak the truth. Ferrets are Cool Mar 2023 #13
I remember not so long ago, when it was always "Dems in disarray" robbob Mar 2023 #14
Now it's openly flipped. calimary Mar 2023 #21
Nothing but a Death Cult Wild blueberry Mar 2023 #20
Proud to be Traildogbob Mar 2023 #22
Our best last cilla4progress Mar 2023 #23

Lovie777

(12,252 posts)
2. As long as no innocent people are hurt....................
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 10:50 AM
Mar 2023

destruction between them should be forthcoming.

pwb

(11,261 posts)
3. It only takes six Republicans to change to independent to fix it all.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 10:51 AM
Mar 2023

For them and the Country. Six sane pukes that say enough of this now.

judesedit

(4,438 posts)
5. I totally agree. Are there not even 6 decent, brave pukes?
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 10:56 AM
Mar 2023

Problem there is, trying to make sure the opposite doesn't happen, too.

dutch777

(3,013 posts)
4. Yes, but in the end they will fall behind some Trump like figure to win at least national elections
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 10:54 AM
Mar 2023

and probably many local. While CPAC has faltered and there is more intra party name calling and drama, in the end, in general elections they will coalesce around the guns, god, small government and anti abortion candidate. Now they may, given their divisions, field more damaged and extreme candidates that give swing voters pause as we saw in 2022, but that does not equal the dissolution of their party.

Prairie_Seagull

(3,318 posts)
6. Another way to see it.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 11:00 AM
Mar 2023

McCarthy won't bring issues to the house floor other than promised issues that will also highlight his weakness as speaker. Thus muting to some degree the apparent power of the MTG ilk. A possible backstop against crazy.

Second: With crazy now somewhat muted, the pit of vipers draws closer together as the primary approaches and are actually in the same pit for the general.

CrispyQ

(36,460 posts)
7. Not divided enough.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 11:07 AM
Mar 2023

The battle of the party isn't over its soul, it has none, but over its infrastructure. Bernie Sanders was right back in 2015 when he said that there are only two ways to the White House and one is through the Democratic Party and the other is through the Republican Party. That's true of most congressional and state seats as well. No other parties have the infrastructure these two have.

All repub voters, moderates or cult, have been brainwashed to believe the worst republican is still better than any democrat. I see this attitude in the moderate repubs I know.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
17. Hah! That was my first thought. Not divided enough.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 01:37 PM
Mar 2023

Last edited Sun Mar 5, 2023, 02:22 PM - Edit history (1)

And you know the old saying…

Divide and CONQUER.

barbtries

(28,788 posts)
9. i hope so.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 11:38 AM
Mar 2023

but i foolishly thought they'd fall apart after GW. they're like zombies they never sleep and they're never up to any good.

Firestorm49

(4,032 posts)
10. They simply don't have a clue about responsible governance. They've lost it completely..
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 11:42 AM
Mar 2023

It seems apparent that other than TFG and his ilk spewing endless bullshit to continue indoctrinating “deplorables”, the GOP has no direction at all. There has not been one standout rational Republican member in Congress who has taken a firm stand against the destruction of our norms or their radical wing of idiots. “Doing the right thing” has been relegated to the dust bins of the model T.

Let them wallow in their desperation, evidenced by the mental midgets the likes of MTG, Boebert, Gohmert, and on and on. This sub-species of humanity must be constantly exposed for their fascist abnormalities and radical philosophies. Constant exposure in the media of their anti American rhetoric is badly needed. I’ve begun to see us swinging back. Long overdue

Now if we could have an federal indictment on TFG, not just local lawsuits, perhaps we can get TFG and his similarly minded ilk to slither down the sewer that they have crawled out of. Then there is Garland. I don’t care how many are upset by criticisms of our Atty. General because we each have an opinion, and I HOPE MINE IS WRONG. Unfortunately all I see now is a very dented can being kicked down the road. Do you really think that with the upcoming election that Smith or Garland will prevail?


flashman13

(662 posts)
18. Ordinarily I'm a pessimist - but I an going to reserve judgement of Smith for a little longer.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 01:40 PM
Mar 2023

Remember that during Watergate, Special Prosecutors Cox and Jaworski did yeoman work. The DOJ issued 69 indictments and obtained 48 convictions. All of the big fish, except Trickie Dickie, went to jail.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
12. They bought the "big lie" that they can only win with Chump and nobody else
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 12:21 PM
Mar 2023

... and everyone who didn't love Chump was winnowed out of the Party.

This is where they are now, and this is what they deserve.

robbob

(3,528 posts)
14. I remember not so long ago, when it was always "Dems in disarray"
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 12:48 PM
Mar 2023

and the ReThugs always marched in lockstep. So this is great to see, imho…

calimary

(81,220 posts)
21. Now it's openly flipped.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 01:48 PM
Mar 2023

Watching MSNBC last night and that label is now Republicans in Disarray.

Which is how I hope they STAY.

Wild blueberry

(6,626 posts)
20. Nothing but a Death Cult
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 01:44 PM
Mar 2023

No party remaining, no policies, no platform, no plans. No one who represents their constituents or does any work for them. Maybe a few old guys who still truckle to the Uber-rich, otherwise all preening grievance and violence.

Side note: Out canvassing yesterday in Wisconsin for Judge Janet, heard more than one person say, "I'm never voting Republican again in my life."

Traildogbob

(8,724 posts)
22. Proud to be
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 01:54 PM
Mar 2023

“Ultra MAGA” with a little beeeeatch hair flip and smirk of ignorance to emphasize the pride.
With the puppeteer Pootin (as well as MurKKKan Billionaires) controlling all the strings of trump and McCarthy. I hope the tangled web of strings choke every damn one of them out. Using their hand made gallows. Shame to waste that craftsmanship of carpentry. Pretty sure no one came back to retrieve them on J-7.

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