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gab13by13

(21,264 posts)
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 12:23 PM Mar 2023

Is Fox's Ban Of Trump Temporary?

There's a video here of Beau of the 5th Column and he claims that Trump hasn't been on Fox since September, I would have no idea because I don't watch. Beau claims it may be to limit liability because of the Dominion lawsuit, maybe so. Beau also claims that Fox is airing low level candidates who are running for president.

This is my point asking the question, I heard on Stephanie Miller last week that Fox may be dumping Trump for Ron DeSantis.

I hope that this turns out to be true but honestly I have my doubts. If Fox shifts to DeSantis then Trump is going to burn everything down. Pretty far fetched I think, but man if it is true.

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Ocelot II

(115,609 posts)
1. Depends on where the money is, since they have demonstrated
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 12:29 PM
Mar 2023

that they will cover whoever and whatever brings them the biggest audience. If TFG's brainwashed minions indicate they want to watch Fox and there are enough of them, Fox will bring him back - especially if a few appearances by DeSantis, the world's most boring fascist, don't boost their advertising revenue enough.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,965 posts)
3. If he's the nominee, they'll be behind him 110 percent
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 12:55 PM
Mar 2023

And I think he will be, to the Republicans everlasting regret.

De Santis would be foolish to run in 2024. He is young enough and is sitting pretty for 2028 if he lets the rump self-immolate in Nov 2024. He has written a book and is on a speaking tour for the future, but also he's preparing now just in case something happens in the next 12 months (likely) and the rump withdraws (unlikely).

The rump will likely face a field of also-rans. Nobody mooted about (Haley declared, Pompeo, Pence, Cruz, etc) has enough of a base to overcome the rump. The more who get in the race fracture the rump's opposition. Hence I think he will be their nominee.

I think the rump will get fewer general election votes than he did in 2016 and not enough Electoral College votes to become 47th. Even if there is no indictment. I think the rump will be indicted in 2023 and there does not have to be a trial in 2024 for indictment to be a proverbial bombshell and for it to be a big drag on his campaign. It won't budge the 30% Rs who are "to the death" rump lickers, but it will sway some leaners to vote D or to stay home.

I expect the Grand Old Party to fracture. Alternatively there is also a high likelihood it would wither away as decent people (mostly decent) abandon it. But I think fracture is more likely. I think the rump will run in 2028 as a third party candidate, unless he is convicted, which I think has a high likelihood.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,965 posts)
7. Yes, but the stage is set for Decentless in 2028 if the rump loses, which is most likely
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 02:23 PM
Mar 2023

Desanity is best advised to just serve out his term as Guv till 2026 and then walk into the nomination in 2028.

He doesn't need to go through contortions to get legislative permission to run in 2024, though he could and he'd get it.

If he were to run in 2024, he would likely be beaten by any Democratic nominee. Less likely to be beaten in 2028 if he keeps his nose clean and distances himself from maga lunacy but not magatism. But such distancing is also not so likely to happen considering his predilections to insanely authoritarian interference.

Kaleva

(36,259 posts)
10. It didn't hurt Reagan to challenge Ford in 1976
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 04:58 PM
Mar 2023

It gave him national exposure and set the stage for him in 1980.

DeSantis has nothing to lose and much to gain by running in 2024. If TFG wins the nomination but loses to Biden, then DeSantis becomes the front runner in 2028. If DeSantis wins the nomination, he has a good chance to win the general

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,965 posts)
11. DeSantis already has national exposure. DeSantis is hated by magats as long as the rump is in race
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 07:28 PM
Mar 2023

The rump has a rock solid base in the GQP and they will not vote for anyone else as long as he is in. The rest of the field are going to split the remaining votes, though DeSantis would take second if he gets in.

Initech

(100,041 posts)
6. No, they will fall in line when he's the nominee again.
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 02:16 PM
Mar 2023

The GOP are the sheep in this case. They can't say no to a megalomaniac.

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