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Joinfortmill

(14,408 posts)
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 10:10 AM Mar 2023

A Republic or A Democracy? Republicans are muddying the waters...

https://hartmannreport.com/p/republicans-dont-want-you-to-know?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

The Hartmann Report

'Republicans Don’t Want You to Know America Is a Republic Ruled By Democratic Principles: Words matter...Republicans, by trashing the name of the Democratic Party, are simultaneously trashing the concept of democracy itself…the famous John Birch Society mantra...: “America Is a Republic, Not a Democracy.”

Once citizens buy into the idea that a nation is a republic but not a democracy, it’s so much easier for “strongman” leadership to justify limiting democratic processes like majority-rule voting so they can rig things so “only the right people” get to vote or have their vote counted...Republicans who believe that a democracy and a republic are incompatible with each other completely miss the fact that our 1789 American republic was the first serious, large-scale nation-state experiment with democracy within a western-world republic since the Greeks tried it almost 3000 years earlier.

In...1777... Hamilton wrote: “[A] representative democracy, where the right of election is well secured and regulated & the exercise of the legislative, executive and judiciary authorities, is vested in select persons, chosen really and not nominally by the people, will in my opinion be most likely to be happy, regular and durable.”'
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A Republic or A Democracy? Republicans are muddying the waters... (Original Post) Joinfortmill Mar 2023 OP
Their mindset is simple, Republicangood, democratbad. Meadowoak Mar 2023 #1
Whenever I hear that shit... TheRealNorth Mar 2023 #4
If you listen to them they call democracy mob rule Walleye Mar 2023 #2
Speaking of Putin... Just A Box Of Rain Mar 2023 #3
Only because they know they are in the minority TheRealNorth Mar 2023 #7
Of course, and they have been for a long time Walleye Mar 2023 #8
A democracy can exist in a republic. The concepts usually overlap. Ocelot II Mar 2023 #5
We're not a DIRECT democracy Mad_Machine76 Mar 2023 #6
Even Direct Democracy can be suspect TheRealNorth Mar 2023 #9

TheRealNorth

(9,474 posts)
4. Whenever I hear that shit...
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 10:36 AM
Mar 2023

I remind them the USSR was a Republic, and that China, Cuba, and Iran are Republics.

Ocelot II

(115,659 posts)
5. A democracy can exist in a republic. The concepts usually overlap.
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 10:56 AM
Mar 2023

A republic is a system of government where the people are governed by elected representatives. In a democracy the people govern, usually but not necessarily through elected representatives. You can have a democracy in a country that isn't a republic - a number of European countries are constitutional monarchies (the UK, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, the Netherlands, Spain, Belgium), and although those countries are democracies because they also have elected parliaments, technically they aren't republics because they have monarchs. The waters are actually muddy, but where the people govern their country either directly or through elected representatives, it's a democracy.

Mad_Machine76

(24,401 posts)
6. We're not a DIRECT democracy
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 11:04 AM
Mar 2023

but we are A democracy. I assume that the only reason that they're trying to muddy the waters is for lawmakers to avoid their piss-poor decisions ("We got elected by the majority of the voters, so we're just going to do what we want&quot

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