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kentuck

(111,080 posts)
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 10:23 AM Mar 2023

Has the fever finally broken in the US Senate?

It was surprising the number of Republican Senators that stepped forward to criticize Tucker Carlson's latest attempt to whitewash what happened on January 6th. Mitch McConnell was very upfront in stating that he believed what the Capitol Police Chief had said about what happened and not the lies of Tucker Carlson. Several fell in line to echo the Minority Leader. Thom Tillis called Tucker's report "bullshit".

For Trump and his accessories, this was the worst time for them to be deserted by the Republican Senators. It could give new energy to the Justice Department and the Special Counsel? If Republican Senators are no longer going to defend what happened on January 6th, that is a big development.

Trump showed his desperation on his Truth Social page. He posted a video of Hunter Biden, naked and with a gun, having consensual sex. Totally inappropriate and irrelevant. But, it does show the degree of his desperation.

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Has the fever finally broken in the US Senate? (Original Post) kentuck Mar 2023 OP
Trump cost Mitch his majority, Mitch knows it but he is feckless Walleye Mar 2023 #1
Oh... 2naSalit Mar 2023 #7
Also he personally knows Joe Biden to be a good man and a solid American Walleye Mar 2023 #10
Yeah... 2naSalit Mar 2023 #11
I hope so, I am encouraged by Joe's optimistic attitude Walleye Mar 2023 #13
I agree. ShazzieB Mar 2023 #20
Moscow Mitch has an 18% approval rating in KY, so why does he keep getting reelected? OMGWTF Mar 2023 #26
Greg Palast has warned us about the ES&S machines KS Toronado Mar 2023 #31
They criticize while he deflects bigly so the criticisms are drowned out. live love laugh Mar 2023 #2
I doubt it. They're comfortable criticizing Carlson, but they won't cross trmp. spanone Mar 2023 #3
Mitch McConnell is a very savvy politician. kentuck Mar 2023 #4
Senate Republicans have been hung out to dry bucolic_frolic Mar 2023 #5
Good time to drop...The Indictments? Indict while the enemy is wounded! Alexander Of Assyria Mar 2023 #9
Only in as much as it may help them in the next elections. al_liberal Mar 2023 #6
You took the words out of my fingers! Alexander Of Assyria Mar 2023 #8
He's one of them now... 2naSalit Mar 2023 #14
I sense a shift in The Force, Luke! Alexander Of Assyria Mar 2023 #19
Yup. 2naSalit Mar 2023 #21
Now we just need a few Republicans in the House to take the same position. patphil Mar 2023 #12
Yup, it only takes one... 2naSalit Mar 2023 #16
Yes. I would like to see Kevin go through that quite regularly Walleye Mar 2023 #17
I was about to post the same thing. fightforfreedom Mar 2023 #15
For those that think Traildogbob Mar 2023 #18
Kabuki. The GOP and McConnell know exactly how many and who should make statements like wiggs Mar 2023 #22
I agree. This is positioning for plausible deniability. Midnight Writer Mar 2023 #32
Good analogy. Gop and Fox both fake. nt wiggs Mar 2023 #34
I completely agree. It's theatre. nt. druidity33 Mar 2023 #39
Great development but cilla4progress Mar 2023 #23
You would think they wouldn't ignore the fact that the insurrectionists actually broke into BumRushDaShow Mar 2023 #24
I was surprised by the comments n/t hibbing Mar 2023 #25
? sheilahi Mar 2023 #27
" naked and with a gun, having consensual sex." KS Toronado Mar 2023 #28
Your last para is TFG whining, "Look, Daddy, it was Hunter who did the naughty thing! Not me!" Hekate Mar 2023 #29
doubt it republianmushroom Mar 2023 #30
I suspect repuke politicians are getting blowback from repuke voters Skittles Mar 2023 #33
This More than Anything so Far Beetwasher. Mar 2023 #35
I agree. kentuck Mar 2023 #36
Senators Have A lot More Access and Intel Beetwasher. Mar 2023 #37
Even Lindsey Graham spoke out against the violence on January 6th. kentuck Mar 2023 #38

2naSalit

(86,569 posts)
7. Oh...
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 11:33 AM
Mar 2023

I don't think he's feckless. He is going to quietly assist in the downfall of magatwerld. I think it will be his last hurrah but I think he means to take help take them down, he's a lot smarter than any of them and he's an alum of the before times when people in the Senate were mostly sane and not total pricks.

Walleye

(31,015 posts)
10. Also he personally knows Joe Biden to be a good man and a solid American
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 11:37 AM
Mar 2023

How much longer does he want to let the lies continue to undermine the national security of United States?He was real good at stopping every piece of progressive legislation they came to him. Let’s see if he’s good at stopping a dictator. I do think the current majority of the Republican party is feckless to do anything about the MAGAs

2naSalit

(86,569 posts)
11. Yeah...
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 11:40 AM
Mar 2023

I agree that the majority of them are feckless. Mitch is a far different story, though. And he is a close friend with Biden which makes me think they have a plan to take down the magats once and for all and I think it will work if they are both working together to bring it about.

ShazzieB

(16,372 posts)
20. I agree.
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 11:53 AM
Mar 2023

He's had his fill of Trump and then some. I don't think he's planning to run for reelection again (don't quote me on that, but I seem to recall reading something to that effect at some point), which would mean that he 's free to plot against Trump without having to worry about losing MAGA votes. I believe things are going to get interesting.

OMGWTF

(3,952 posts)
26. Moscow Mitch has an 18% approval rating in KY, so why does he keep getting reelected?
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 12:58 PM
Mar 2023

Corrupt ES&S voting machines -- just like the ones used in Maine where that brain-damaged hag Susan Collins keeps winning too --

Voting machine company behind so many surprise wins this year raises some questions https://www.alternet.org/2020/12/voting-2020

KS Toronado

(17,209 posts)
31. Greg Palast has warned us about the ES&S machines
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 01:51 PM
Mar 2023

Wish his writings on the subject would get more traction.

spanone

(135,828 posts)
3. I doubt it. They're comfortable criticizing Carlson, but they won't cross trmp.
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 10:29 AM
Mar 2023

They'll vote for trmp if he's the nominee.....count on it.

kentuck

(111,080 posts)
4. Mitch McConnell is a very savvy politician.
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 10:33 AM
Mar 2023

I think he now sees Trump as a liability. The Republicans in the House are not yet there. But, it only takes one member to call up a vote to keep McCarthy as Speaker. It could happen.

The attendance at CPAC was a factor in Mitch's decision, in my opinion. He now believes Trump is a liability to the Party.

bucolic_frolic

(43,140 posts)
5. Senate Republicans have been hung out to dry
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 10:35 AM
Mar 2023

Biden occupies the patriotic American center on UKR and confronts Russia. That's where the GOP stood for 80 years. Suddenly they sense the tide is turning against them, and they're in a flimsy rowboat. Watch them paddle faster.

al_liberal

(420 posts)
6. Only in as much as it may help them in the next elections.
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 11:00 AM
Mar 2023

Afterwards it’ll be back to their regularly scheduled fascism.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
8. You took the words out of my fingers!
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 11:35 AM
Mar 2023

Now this looks almost like a set up by McCarthy to get rid of the Caustic Caucus influence.

2naSalit

(86,569 posts)
21. Yup.
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 11:53 AM
Mar 2023

For me, what I noticed, was during the STOU when Mitch was suddenly on camera, something about the call out he was receiving brought on an epiphanous thought; that they have been discussing how to get rid of the plague in the government and I think they have a solution which will play out over the year.

A gut feeling makes me think it is what's up at the moment between those two, Brothers of a more sane Senate wanting to restore order and dignity to the place.

patphil

(6,171 posts)
12. Now we just need a few Republicans in the House to take the same position.
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 11:41 AM
Mar 2023

Personally I think Speaker McCarthy should be censured for giving Carlson all that J6 material without a House vote on it.
Actually, his position should be challenged and once more put to a vote. His actions were despicable.

2naSalit

(86,569 posts)
16. Yup, it only takes one...
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 11:43 AM
Mar 2023

And it would only take four or five to vote for Jeffries to totally change the trajectory of the House.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
15. I was about to post the same thing.
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 11:43 AM
Mar 2023

Maybe the Republicans know indictments are near for the coup plotters. There is no doubt something changed yesterday. They have been mostly silent about the attack on the Capital.

Traildogbob

(8,724 posts)
18. For those that think
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 11:44 AM
Mar 2023

“Trump will end Carlson for speaking against him.”
McCarthy spoke against trump on J7. Then went to Mardi Lardo and got on his knees.
Now Trump owns McCarthy. And pulls bud strings. And gave him a seat.
Graham spoke against trump on J7. Then went to Mardi Lardo to Golf……on his knees. (Hard to do) Now trump owns Graham even more. And pulls his strings. Gives him a senate seat.
Trump will continue to own Tuckums, cause he may have nowhere else to go. Trumps base makes Tuckums millions, no one else is stupid enough to buy his shit. Therefore, trump owns Tuckums. His only option is to lose his stardom, and sit at home eating “Frozen Fish Sticks”. (That never expire b/c packed with chemicals)

wiggs

(7,812 posts)
22. Kabuki. The GOP and McConnell know exactly how many and who should make statements like
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 12:01 PM
Mar 2023

these. A few make statement to get headlines, appearing reasonable...but never enough to vote for what's right.

Senate GOP statements and votes are choreographed and coordinated, with permission.

Midnight Writer

(21,751 posts)
32. I agree. This is positioning for plausible deniability.
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 02:24 PM
Mar 2023

FOXNews does the same thing by having an occasional anchor say something truthful, so they can claim their "news side" is legitimate.

BumRushDaShow

(128,894 posts)
24. You would think they wouldn't ignore the fact that the insurrectionists actually broke into
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 12:36 PM
Mar 2023

and took over the Senate chamber, with some literally "swinging from the gallery" and others rifling through Senators' desks and sitting on the dais.





Hekate

(90,656 posts)
29. Your last para is TFG whining, "Look, Daddy, it was Hunter who did the naughty thing! Not me!"
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 01:24 PM
Mar 2023

“Punish him, not me, Daddy!”

Or as the Rev Al Sharpton likes to say, “It was you with the blueberry pie all over your face saying you never did it.”

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
33. I suspect repuke politicians are getting blowback from repuke voters
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 06:38 PM
Mar 2023

hopefully they're getting uncomfortable with some of the fascist moves of the GOP

kentuck

(111,080 posts)
36. I agree.
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 10:20 PM
Mar 2023

And they are not going to defend him when he is indicted. Trump knows the indictment is coming also. It feels like it is on the horizon.

Beetwasher.

(2,970 posts)
37. Senators Have A lot More Access and Intel
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 10:38 PM
Mar 2023

Than most House members. There’s a reason they are, with few exceptions, all on the same page.

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