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Nevilledog

(51,080 posts)
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 03:22 PM Mar 2023

Scientists have revived a 'zombie' virus that spent 48,500 years frozen in permafrost

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/08/world/permafrost-virus-risk-climate-scn/index.html


CNN

Warmer temperatures in the Arctic are thawing the region’s permafrost — a frozen layer of soil beneath the ground — and potentially stirring viruses that, after lying dormant for tens of thousands of years, could endanger animal and human health.

While a pandemic unleashed by a disease from the distant past sounds like the plot of a sci-fi movie, scientists warn that the risks, though low, are underappreciated. Chemical and radioactive waste that dates back to the Cold War, which has the potential to harm wildlife and disrupt ecosystems, may also be released during thaws.

“There’s a lot going on with the permafrost that is of concern, and (it) really shows why it’s super important that we keep as much of the permafrost frozen as possible,” said Kimberley Miner, a climate scientist at the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, California.

Permafrost covers a fifth of the Northern Hemisphere, having underpinned the Arctic tundra and boreal forests of Alaska, Canada and Russia for millennia. It serves as a kind of time capsule, preserving — in addition to ancient viruses — the mummified remains of a number of extinct animals that scientist have been able to unearth and study in recent years, including two cave lion cubs and a woolly rhino.

*snip*

Leave. The. Zombie. Virus. Alone!
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Scientists have revived a 'zombie' virus that spent 48,500 years frozen in permafrost (Original Post) Nevilledog Mar 2023 OP
Did the possibility of the virus and the extinct animals showing up in same level Ray Bruns Mar 2023 #1
I don't exactly condone this sort of thing, being that these long dormant viruses, could run SWBTATTReg Mar 2023 #2
FFS! Leave it there! EarthFirst Mar 2023 #3
Maybe I'm thinking about this in the wrong way but.... chowder66 Mar 2023 #6
I tend to agree with you... EarthFirst Mar 2023 #8
It was my first reaction as well! chowder66 Mar 2023 #9
Whoever is financing them is probably hoping to get the next bioweapon. Baitball Blogger Mar 2023 #10
The Viruses And Gases Will All Be Released As The Permafrost Melts, Global Warming GGoss Mar 2023 #7
I wish Delphinus Mar 2023 #13
Yes, they'll likely enter the active environment regardless of humans Model35mech Mar 2023 #15
Great News! Effete Snob Mar 2023 #4
V Wars inthewind21 Mar 2023 #5
That was a decent series. Only one though. JanMichael Mar 2023 #14
What could go wrong? Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #11
Just because you can do something does not mean you should!! Oh for the love of God Peacetrain Mar 2023 #12

Ray Bruns

(4,093 posts)
1. Did the possibility of the virus and the extinct animals showing up in same level
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 03:28 PM
Mar 2023

of permafrost might have clued in the scientists that the two may have been related?

SWBTATTReg

(22,112 posts)
2. I don't exactly condone this sort of thing, being that these long dormant viruses, could run
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 03:30 PM
Mar 2023

rampart across populations that no longer have immunity to these dormant viruses. If we're lucky, our genetic code already has some sort of genetic resistance to these long dormant viruses.

chowder66

(9,067 posts)
6. Maybe I'm thinking about this in the wrong way but....
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 03:44 PM
Mar 2023

Wouldn't it be better that they investigate this under controlled conditions to create potential vaccines instead of waiting for a catastrophe to happen?

EarthFirst

(2,900 posts)
8. I tend to agree with you...
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 04:04 PM
Mar 2023

I was more or less offering up a snarky response.

There are certainly potential beneficial research opportunities; if anything perhaps it increases the awareness of climate change…

 

GGoss

(1,273 posts)
7. The Viruses And Gases Will All Be Released As The Permafrost Melts, Global Warming
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 04:03 PM
Mar 2023

From 5 years ago:




Delphinus

(11,830 posts)
13. I wish
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 05:04 PM
Mar 2023

they would go back now and do an update.

And, really, Gail hadn't heard the word permafrost before? I don't watch shows like this - is it just conversation starter?

Model35mech

(1,530 posts)
15. Yes, they'll likely enter the active environment regardless of humans
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 05:17 PM
Mar 2023

As has been seen across the arctice, but most dramatically in Siberia, methane pockets collapse, potentially making huge holes that and quickly erode and expose underlying layers of earth.

Water running over permafrost will also cut into it and also disseminate whatever is in the soil.

Back in the early 2000's I had Russian friends that were very interested in collecting tissues and eggs from parasite from frozen ice age animals. They were interested in genetic analysis that took place over the last 10-12 thousand years.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
5. V Wars
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 03:43 PM
Mar 2023

Netflix series.

"V Wars follows the story of the physician/scientist Dr. Luther Swann, and his best friend Michael Fayne, as they face the evolving crisis of a deadly outbreak that fractures society into opposing factions, potentially escalating to a future war between humans and vampires.[3] The outbreak is caused by an ancient biological infectious agent, a prion, that turns humans into vampires,[4] released from ice by climate change.[5]

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