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Artcatt

(344 posts)
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 12:31 AM Mar 2023

Bill Maher wisdom and Dems

Maher’s been on dem’s lousy messaging for awhile, but the other day I heard something slightly new/different from him.

..which is that (some) trumpkins don’t like trump either, but to them, his crazy stuff is way less crazy than the Dems’ crazy stuff…

I personally have no issues with the dem / liberal agenda, but nobody likes having things crammed up their nose. Dems can be a snooty bunch. I myself am personally cooked on that attitude, tho my support of dem agenda has not flagged.

If there are any in the Dem camp who can appreciate this idea, why can’t they smarten up their messaging, along the lines of the reality Maher shared, as cited above?

thank you

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BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
3. He has taken in A LOT
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 12:45 AM
Mar 2023

of GQP talking points and it shows he is a true Libertarian. I have no time for Libertarians and only watch 10% of Maher's show for the past few years. His greed was what made him anti-mask. Poor baby, he had to do his show from home and lost $$$ by not being able to do live comedy during Covid. He is against support for student loans and a lot of other good programs.

WA-03 Democrat

(3,046 posts)
4. Fuck Bill Maher
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 12:52 AM
Mar 2023

May he take a long walk off a short pier.

You can take your “snooty” ass with him too.

You would obliviously win the leadership position for the “Dems” and fix it.

Lies are more fun than facts. Thanks you Republican fuckers

Initech

(100,063 posts)
5. It's hard to compete with a continously operating, multi-channel echo chamber.
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 12:55 AM
Mar 2023

Dems need to start building grass roots messaging the way conservatives did. The republicans win by running anyone they can in any position they can, and they have call in talk shows and news networks to enforce their beliefs. The thing is to start small and work yor way to the top.

oldmanlynn

(108 posts)
6. Really confused by what you are asking
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 01:04 AM
Mar 2023

Republicans are grifting lying misleading do nothing cheats taking away freedoms, allowing gun violence, , helping the rich get richer, attacking our capital, pushing propaganda and your say dems can be snooty?

I would rather have snooty than the extremely worse alternative

Carlitos Brigante

(26,500 posts)
7. So, what exactly is "being crammed up people's noses"? While we're
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 01:05 AM
Mar 2023

at it, if you could also expand on this crazy shit the Democrats are saying that's comparable to "drinking bleach, space lasers, Clinton's Parkinson's (that apparently will kick in any day now), climate change isn't real because.... snow, trees cause more pollution than cars", on an on and on. I'd love to see examples of these "craaaaaazy libs" saying comparable shit.

LostOne4Ever

(9,288 posts)
8. "Liberal Agenda?" "Crammed up your nose?" Snooty?
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 01:09 AM
Mar 2023

What do you mean by Liberal agenda? By having things crammed up your nose.

Sorry, but it is hard to understand with all the dog whistles going off…

Silent3

(15,204 posts)
10. The main "problem" (if you can call it that) with Democratic messaging is less lying, less pandering
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 01:10 AM
Mar 2023

There are definitely things that could be improved, but you can only improved "messaging" so much before it become lying and manipulation.

Republicans have no problem with lying and manipulation. We hardly needed the Fox News defamation trial revelations to know that, but it's great to have it clearly documented now.

Republicans have no problem over-simplifying issues to the point of grotesque parody. Republicans have no problem appealing to the darkest instincts of people, and stirring up their irrational fears.

Republicans aren't especially talented at messaging. They are just more willing to use easy but dishonest methods. Before you get too hard on Democrats for their supposed lack of messaging talent and discipline, keep in mind how much harder it is to sway people without selling your soul to do it.

betsuni

(25,468 posts)
12. No such American expression as "things crammed up their nose." It's "shoved down their throats"
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 01:17 AM
Mar 2023

or similar. "Personally cooked on that attitude" isn't an expression either.

"A snooty bunch."

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