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Change is always coming--but this article makes it seem it is coming VERY fast.
Artificial intelligence will destroy laptop class workers
https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/3884324-artificial-intelligence-will-destroy-laptop-class-workers/
by Kristin Tate, Opinion Contributor - 03/08/23 10:30 AM ET
The coming artificial intelligence economic revolution will be a major shock to the world. There is a serious possibility that the next decade will bring about a series of social and economic changes akin to the Industrial Revolution and the advent of the internet combined. Many writers, human resource officers, lawyers, writers, artists, and even coders increasingly will be replaced by AI as the laptop class of workers is decimated. At the same time, blue-collar workers who work with their hands will enjoy job security; their services cannot be replaced by technology. Unfortunately for waves of young people, the medias advice to learn to code may have been like investing in typewriters.
Artificial intelligence is advancing at a breakneck speed. Recent announcements of programs that can mimic human conversation, copy our voice, write research papers, and paint beautiful pictures are just a small sliver of the coming AI revolution. The coming changes in everyday life soon will become noticeable, including the popularity of AI-generated video games, music, art, and even movies. A short description and a click of the mouse can spit out a new novel by John Steinbeck or an economic treatise by Thomas Sowell.
Scores of jobs that require a college education will be changed nearly overnight. Rapid advances in this new technology will wreak havoc on the very people who prospered during COVID, especially those who work in the knowledge economy and can often carry out their duties from their laptops at home. Artificial intelligence advances within the next one to five years will outpace most work a human can input into a keyboard. Most content on the web will be written by chatbots. There will be AI influencers. Code will be written in a tiny fraction of the time it takes for humans to produce it. Graphic artists will lose most of their business to art generators. Even accountants and financial analysts may be outpaced by computers. ChatGPT already helps coders through basic code, which often needs refining. The chat service also can help replace many of the smarts needed to build a website. It already has passed an MBA exam and law exams.
Some white-collar jobs will fare better than others with the advancement of AI. Those who pioneer new techniques or are at the top of their fields will still be able to earn a respectable wage. At the same time, workers whose jobs rely on an element of personality and face-to-face relationships likely will weather the storm. Would you rather have an actual human advising you on legal matters, your finances, and your health care decisions or a machine? Still, the shift toward a nearly labor-free creative world may make white-collar jobs across the board fewer and farther between.
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moosewhisperer
(114 posts)Many writers, human resource officers, lawyers, writers, artists
Writers twice in one sentence? She definitely should be worried about being replaced by a robot.
Orrex
(63,172 posts)I'm sympathetic, but it's hard to make the case that you're essential when you commit such a basic and ill-timed goof in the process.
Celerity
(43,096 posts)some of her 'deep' claptrap from 2016
The Libertarian Chick on Government Gone Wild!
Auggie
(31,133 posts)said a human.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)1) Article is far from the whole story and is a bit glib.
2) "Sucks"? Sure. The steelmaking that made swords sucks, but the same knowledge makes outstanding kitchen knives, which does not suck.
So "sucks" is exceedingly shallow as a reaction and I think you need to dig deeper or at least avoid the failure of excessive terseness, since I doubt you are that shallow.
MayReasonRule
(1,460 posts)A very interesting opinion piece though!
Thanks for the post!
Amishman
(5,554 posts)I work in software development as an analyst / project manager.
machine learning 'AI' can spit out useable code - with a few caveats. It does better with simple or common functions, but for stuff like that there usually is open source code available that a smart developer would be leveraging anyway. It also needs to be tailored and fitted to your specific system and data structure. It also needs significant testing - if anything more than human written code. So it's a nice little shortcut to make developers more efficient, not a true replacement.
Technical writing is the same, but with less massaging to get the AI output useable. The fewer hard facts / details in the subject matter, the more AI can help.
It's best at writing 'fluff'.
And that is another spot where it falls short. The article says it can spit out a new Steinbeck novel or an Sowell economic paper.
The former it can just about do today, fiction and regular prose is something it does well. It can blend elements countless different existing stories and ideas so that a reader doesn't recognize the source materials, then shape it with a specific author's preferred word choice, syntax, and style.
The economic paper is trickier - it won't have any coherent new ideas. You will end up at best with something rehashing and discussing old ideas that are in its data model, or original content that makes no sense to someone with a solid understanding of the subject matter. So it can do a good job writing a high school or undergraduate student's kind of paper discussing the existing ideas of Sowell, but it can't give you new original research. It simply doesn't have the depth of real world information needed to come up with something original that makes sense against a real world backdrop - let alone the computing capacity to parse a data model that size if it could be created.
The white collar jobs that really are vulnerable are people like accountants and underwriters - those who work with numbers, repetitively applying standard and well defined rules to data.
multigraincracker
(32,641 posts)that remains the same.
modrepub
(3,491 posts)as Shumpeter (the only Austrian economist I respect) said. The economy is always looking for new (cheaper or more efficient) ways of doing things.
Change is the only constant. It's always good advice to update your skill set and or try new things if you're going to participate in the market place.
Tanuki
(14,914 posts)"Kristin Tate is a libertarian writer and an analyst for Young Americans for Liberty. She is an author whose latest book is How Do I Tax Thee? A Field Guide to the Great American Rip-Off.
Tanuki
(14,914 posts)..."In total, YAL has fought COVID-19 vaccine and mask mandates on 23 college campuses, such as Rutgers, Virginia Tech University, and the University of Colorado Boulder.[39][40] YAL has circulated petitions opposing COVID-related rules on different campuses, such as Virginia Tech.[40] According to the YAL, the organization "is not anti-vaccine, but rather anti-vaccine mandate at taxpayer-funded academic institutions."[39] Several students affiliated with YAL have spoken to the mainstream media, arguing for vaccination as a "personal choice."[41][42]
YAL is an outspoken critic of gun-control legislation, such as "red flag" laws proposed by President Biden and other Democrats.[43][44] The organization also opposes "Critical Race Theory" education at public schools.[45] YAL is active on social media, often attacking Democratic Party officials.[46] The organization also publishes a quarterly magazine called "The American Revolution."[47] "
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)Be specific, please.
hunter
(38,302 posts)Of course they worry about their jobs being automated.
Ford_Prefect
(7,870 posts)Player Piano is the first novel by American writer Kurt Vonnegut Jr., published in 1952. The novel depicts a dystopia of automation partly inspired by the author's time working at General Electric, describing the negative impact technology can have on quality of life.[2] The story takes place in a near-future society that is almost totally mechanized, eliminating the need for human laborers. The widespread mechanization creates conflict between the wealthy upper class, the engineers and managers, who keep society running, and the lower class, whose skills and purpose in society have been replaced by machines.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_Piano_(novel)
ananda
(28,834 posts)Stanislaus Lem is another good one.
His novel about virtual reality was something.
And Philip K Dick's works are also great.
FSogol
(45,446 posts)Response to riversedge (Original post)
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Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)Advancements like AI go in waves. The writer is surfing a wave of over-rating AI, but is helping wake people up about AI and the people need waking.
1) There have been waves of AI before. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_winter
2) AI is a very real human capability, by which I mean it is within our grasp. But it is not a thing which arrives or has not arrives. AI capability and AI deployment come in degrees, levels, etc.
3) Since about 2000, long term research threads began to bear fruit as artificial neural networks (ANNs or NNs) became more possible with advanced computing hardware and cheapness of generally available hardware.
4) In the 2000s, large "tech" companies (meaning web companies) began adopting and integrating NNs in massive ways. The emergence of Big Data. It was the business model of Google, Facebook, and the rest: your data. Their joint agreements mean they all share data since the ToAs of them all say that you consent to sharing of data with joint venture partners.
5) The advancements of AI currently are stunning. No question. That is a big part of why I say it is "under-rated".
6) The advancements of AI currently are flawed. That's why I say it is "over-rated". The article is a bit glib and too ready to predict a calamitous swift revolution. It will be swift enough to amaze us, but it will go in fits and starts.
7) Flaws are hard to root out. But they will be. It will take time. This is why I think that the AI industry will head into a bit of a winter before long.
More on this point: Sure, an AI can write a bit of code, like implementing known algorithms in toy applications. But to write a complete working 20,000 line program involves designing and writing code when the problem is not well defined and gets defined by writing working code that fails to satisfy users then modifying it in steps until it does.
If you can't define it precisely, then the AI can fake it, but not make it.
So what will happen is that there will be AIs that facilitate interaction with AIs. Software will be developed in conjunction with engineers and programmers, but their mode of interaction will be higher level than it is now.
Developing the software for those interactions will take time. Hence AI is over-rated. But AI will assist that development. All up and down the line AI will be accelerating those developments and at some point in the future it will seem like the "next wave" has suddenly arrived. Hence AI is under-rated.
This will happen across all the fields. AI integration will take time but will be amazing.
Take artwork for example. You can pick an artist known for a fairly consistent style and ask the AI to make a picture of something similar to their themes in their style, and the result will seem perfect at first look. But after a bit we notice flaws like a car poking through a window. This will all be ironed out, but it takes time.
The graphic artist of the future will do some "painting", but a lot of their work will be interacting with an AI. When they tell the AI "looks like a car poking through the window and that's nonsense", the AI will correct it and there will be back and forth.
So. Advancement was ever thus, in all spheres of human endeavor.
highplainsdem
(48,910 posts)a flood of successful lawsuits shutting down the companies whose datasets have ripped off intellectual property, and publicizing of business failures and security breaches that will slam the brakes on this use of AI before almost everyone involved gets hurt except the tiny percentage raking in profits from the new AI stampede.
Even the people behind the stampede admit government oversight and regulation are needed. But they haven't been willing on their own to give governments and laws any chance to catch up.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)It's an odd kind of sense of entitlement, and the Achilles Heel of the magatized version of libertarianism as promulgated by the rump and the mollusk.
Data is the tip of the iceberg as far as the need for regulation and oversight.
Getting it right is tricky, but getting started would be a good idea.
Jazz Jon
(109 posts)Not as soon or as dramatic as the writer believes. I have encountered "AI" in three areas.
Art creation and editing tools... they speed my work, but don't eliminate it. They have no understanding of their task.
Telephone sales... really bad so far. They can't respond accurately to the first question.
Customer service chat bots. Fairly bad... They can react to simple sentences, but don't comprehend meaning. They merely return short entries from a "knowledge base" that have matching keywords.
Jazz Jon
(109 posts)If you are trying to get help from a company who's services you have bought, and you encounter a chatbot, it's a major headache. You have to figure out how to get around the chatbot in order to get your question answered or a get an action taken to solve your probllem.
Amishman
(5,554 posts)I am not aware of any that leverage a deep machine learning model to give better answers that are not explicitly scripted.
Why are companies doing this?
Because there are not nearly enough controls in machine learning chatbots like ChatGPT to ensure the bot doesn't promise something that they company is unwilling to give. We see this with examples where 'AI' chatbots literally make up sources and present their lie as fact. Now imagine a bot bugging out like that when a customer is asking about their bill or mortgage payment. A bank can't risk having their bot glitching and telling a customer they don't need to make their payment.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)The use of natural language recognition in centers is tougher than, for example Alexa, for multiple reasons:
* the variety of inputs is extremely wide and deep: accents, age, cultural patterns, sex, health, strength, socialization, trends like vocal rise and vocal fry, emotional turmoil, etc.
* there is no training with the individual speaker
But still, it does give them leverage.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)It will infiltrate, or rather the engineers will infiltrate it in to the systems in place. Some systems may be redesigned for other reasons and when that happens, systems and subsystems will be rebuilt with more integration.
But regardless, there will be databases that can be consulted, and audited, and logged as they are now. AIs will use them and humans will use them, most often the same one(s).
So the bank would limit the AI bot from certain behaviors or require certain behaviors such as it must communicate the exact amount from standard SQL database queries that are logged.
Even so, there will be glitches and mistakes and wild media coverage and lawsuits and payouts.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)Celerity
(43,096 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)I like seeing your name among the posters and often head there first.
Celerity
(43,096 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,294 posts)Response to riversedge (Original post)
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Trueblue Texan
(2,419 posts)...AI writing is merely regurgitation with good sentence structure. It uses info from the internet so of course, it must be deeply fact checked. I think AI will make real writers in greater demand because, yes, there will be more written works due to the easy accessibility of AI. But there will be far more need for fact checkers and logic checkers. AI that can truly be intelligent is a long, long way off.
Blues Heron
(5,926 posts)yeah, no.
Midwestern Democrat
(806 posts)Steinbeck. Give me a break - I've seen computer generated web content and You Tube videos - they're awful. I've seen You Tube videos generated by computer where they mispronounce a famous actor's name; I saw one on an actress where they included photos of an entirely different unknown woman who just happened to have the same name. AI today might be able to comb through Wikipedia pages, etc. and produce stilted, boring narrative, but I've seen no evidence it can come anywhere close to duplicating a human expert's ability to make value judgments of what's really important and interesting.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)It would be a mistake to judge the prospects of AI by its current state, as much as it would have been to judge the prospects of "cell phones" by those available in 1993.
Same mistake as to judge AI by the state of the field in 1993, or in 2023.
I am likely to be dead in 2053, but if you or I live even 15 years more, we'll be blown away by applications of AI in 2038. It would have been a mistake to judge the prospects of self-driving cars by their capabilities in 2008.
I'm not expecting a Steinbeck novel by 2038 or 2053, but I expect to be as amazed by the advances in 2038 and 2053, or however close I get to those, ... as amazed as I have been by advances in the last 15 years.
bucolic_frolic
(43,044 posts)There will be crashes. Some of them will be embarrassing. Some will cost a lot of money to settle. But the top of the pyramid will continue to be fed well.
Didn't someone write the AI code to begin with?
I've been reading for several years about trading bots running ETF's more profitably than humans. A few are said to have no human oversight. But, again, someone wrote the algorithm.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)If the AI revolution is going to make some people enormous wealth (it will), it will not be without risks for society.
One big risk is further widening the unsustainable wealth and income gap.
That must be closed by providing basic human necessities for free: housing (a room with basics like shower), health care, food. No questions asked.
If the AI revolution is good for anything, then all people must be fed well and "fed well".
That must be paid for by higher taxes on the wealthy. It is a myth that they did it all themselves without infrastructure like roads and government services like public education.
The result will lift all boats and even the wealthy would be happy. Well, mostly happy. They would still moan and groan about taxes at their yacht parties.
bucolic_frolic
(43,044 posts)This is analogous. Slavery enters its next rendition. We are ant or bee colonies.
hunter
(38,302 posts)... from basic literacy and numeracy to doctorates.
Our civilization is productive enough to support that.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)Silent3
(15,147 posts)The only thing that humans have written are the algorithms for how to go about learning by analyzing tons of data, and how, by trial and error, to find some way to match inputs with expected outputs.
Those "some way" solutions are generally incomprehensible to the humans who created the AI. All we know is how well they perform, and we're quite often surprised by the mysterious ways they can fail.
Javaman
(62,500 posts)six months in to the position, I turned to my coworker and said, " you know, in a few years someone is going to write an algorithm, that will replace us."
I still believe that. I just want to hang on long enough till I retire. just 7 more long years.
Happy Hoosier
(7,216 posts)Or a skill that cannot (yet) be automated.
Pretty much, if your job doesn't require exercising judgment to make decisions or actual creativity, your job is a candidate for automation.
And yes, Chat bots and AI "art" can emulate SOME creative endevours, but they are derivative, not creative, so they can be used from some basic elements, but they cannot replace creativity. Not yet.
So far, the AI writing is still reasonably weak, but it will get better. Especially when it comes to subjects requiring actual analysis, the writing is a word salad. Of course, the writing of a lot of HUMANS is a word salad, so...
But for now, the "AI" algorithms cannot exercise actual critical thinking or genuine creativity.
But if your job is to put peg A into slot B, or any kind of "data entry" yeah... it's just a matter of when it becomes cheaper to have a robot do it.
thesquanderer
(11,972 posts)...for genuine artists. The problem isn't that AI will take away their livings, it's that so few of them can make good livings from their art in the first place.
hunter
(38,302 posts)I'd argue that any artist who gets trapped in some crap job related to their art is LESS likely to pursue their actual art.
Most of those kids hoping to be superstar football or basketball players are likely to have their dreams shattered. Same with any other sort of artist.
Ideally as an artist you find the means to pursue your art without compromise. You don't get assimilated into money making machines run by asshole billionaires who, in any sane civilization would be taxed out of existence or possibly placed in prison to protect the rest of us from their predation.
If we weren't all clueless fucks we'd demand thirty hour work weeks so we could all pursue our own arts. Our 21st century technology has given us all the tools we need to create that kind of society, we just have to apply them.
As it is, most of us suffer work that is not making the world a better or brighter place, and for no good reason. We live in a society that stifles curiosity and creativity.
That's one of the reasons I don't support advertising supported television. I simply don't see any television advertising in my daily life. No broadcast, no cable, no satellite, no streaming with ads. It no longer exists within my personal universe. I've seen too many artists sucked into that wormhole who never came out the other side.
I tend to think any job that can be automated should be automated. The problem has always been that the benefits of this automation are not distributed equally among us. The wealth doesn't "trickle down" to those whose jobs have been automated. In a better world things like comfortable basic housing, healthy food, appropriate medical care, and education wouldn't require anyone to accept soul-crushing work in exchange for mere survival.
Sympthsical
(9,037 posts)Because anything that happens to the media has to be discussed into the ground and flagged as Very Important Thing.
I've been reading more and more articles online that follow kind of the same format. Very click-baity headline designed to draw attention with a characterization meant to invoke an emotional response. Then maybe two or three sentences kind of outlining what's being discussed.
Then paragraph after paragraph of background information that may or may not be relevant but definitely feels like it was copy and pasted from somewhere else.
Towards the bottom: Maybe two sentences detailing what actually happened, relevant information, or some throwaway bit that actually invalidates most of what just came before if not contradicting the headline outright.
Humans are not required to write this stuff. I think online media writing is where a lot of low-achieving English majors ended up being employed.
Places like Buzzfeed and half of what's on MSN already feel like mindless AI is writing it. They'll be the first to go.
"AI is coming for all our jobs!" No, dear. Just your job. The rest of us have useful skills.
Silent3
(15,147 posts)ChatGPT is simultaneously very impressive in some ways and deeply flawed in others. The flaws won't be truly fixed until some major breakthroughs in "general AI" (as opposed to "narrow AI" ) are made.
In the meantime, problems with ChatGPT-like systems can probably be whittled away at a bit, masking them or burying them a bit deeper.
We already seem some companies treating ChatGPT output as "good enough", but, like Fox News, they must care more about money than accuracy and factual truth.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)Elessar Zappa
(13,909 posts)As Ive said on other posts, there will be good and bad effects of AI. Certain laws regulating it may help but Im not sure what those laws would entail. Ultimately though, Im not losing any sleep over it.
RobinA
(9,886 posts)AI, bring it on. I'm not scared of you!
honest.abe
(8,614 posts)The "laptop class" workers will simply get better at doing their "laptop class" work.
Torchlight
(3,293 posts)I'm a guy who claimed the internet would never be close to ma bell's wall phones in popularity, so I know my guesses are more often wrong than not, and I won't even try to pretend I have a gauge on its eventual usage, whether for good or no.
It's weird to me (as an adult having watched a few waves of tech progress crash onto the shores) how the world can adapt to newer tech so quickly and (seemingly) effortlessly, allowing what fascinated me only a year ago as the "it just can't get any greater/faster/smaller/bigger than this!" to become yesterday's jam and ubiquitous today.
XorXor
(616 posts)Had ChatGTP not been made so accessible to the regular public, then the vast majority of these articles that are written by non-technical people wouldn't be a thing. Yes, they are cool, fun, and can be useful, but anyone who does more than just play with them briefly will come to understand their limitations.
Maybe there will be a massive disruption in the future, but we are not there now.