Mass harassment of people by occupation

[gulliver]

The Internet has made it no fun to be in a lot of jobs. To me, it's just silly. The peanut gallery, the tiny fringes on the left and right, now have access to too much information and too little access to inhibitory social feedback.

Good healthcare workers get grief from COVID vaccine deniers and hydroxychloroquine bozos.

Good teachers get grief from...everyone.

Good cops get grief from FTPers, DTPers, and other fools.

Good politicians get grief from...everyone.

Imo, we have to be careful. If we can't, as a democratic majority group of wise people, shield good workers from the harassment of unelected, self-selected, attention-seeking, inadequately thoughtful fringe actors (on the left and right), we risk making key jobs untenable. Then, the better people will leave those jobs and the worse people will stay in and gravitate toward those jobs, even getting higher pay for the work.

[Diamond_Dog]

1. I was showing Mr. Diamond

who is a retired high school teacher, some awful comments about public school teachers on Yahoo by wingnut parents, many of which were full of “We pay their salaries so they should teach what we tell them to teach!” and “Teachers are the hired help!” “Glorified baby sitters!” etc.

His reply was that teachers have been hearing that crap for 30 years, some things never change.

I just don’t get the hatred for school teachers. They have an impossible job. All the teachers my 3 boys had throughout their school years were dedicated and hard working and fair. Any one of them was happy to make time to talk to parents about anything.

[CrispyQ]

6. I knew my mother was starting to go right wing when she stared harping about school teachers.

I was in my 30s, so long out of school. I asked her, "Which of my teachers do you think were so awful?" "Oh, not your teachers, just teachers in general." "Then why them?" I asked & she couldn't/wouldn't answer.

I have a theory that adults are actually jealous that teachers have summers off. I know, many of them work, & there are pay issues, but technically they have summers off & I think a ton of adults are jealous of that, even though any of us could have gone into teaching. It's stupid, I know, but if there's one thing I've learned since Trump came down that escalator it's how damned petty people are.

Anyway, I came across this years ago & I can't speak for the hourly rate, but even if we paid half the babysitter rate on this poster, teachers would still get a helluva raise & be making much closer to what they're worth.

[Diamond_Dog]

7. I love it!

Will show to my hubby.

I have a theory about people who hate teachers, too. I think a lot of them were poor students who hated school, hated reading, and hated being made to do schoolwork and take tests, etc.
And who were the slave drivers? Teachers!

And, summers off, what a joke. Most younger teachers have to work summers so they can make ends meet. And, many people don’t realize that teachers are paid for 180 working days. Many elect to have their pay spread over 12 months, but it’s still just for 180 days.

[Hortensis]

2. So true and ALL so important. Add election workers, volunteer and professional. nt

[bucolic_frolic]

3. There are good and bad people everywhere

Some excel at their jobs, some view it as a temporary paycheck, some are ill-suited psychologically for the work they do, and some are in it for the money, prestige, power, accolades. It's a mixed bag.

Criticism can be valid, invalid, well-supported, or not. Evaluate everything on its merits. We are forced to accept a lot. We should pick our spots, temper our criticism, and aim for improvement.

[cachukis]

4. Retired teacher here.

Surveyed my students for years by asking how many bad teachers they had. After twelve years in school, most would say less than 2 or 3. Not scientific, but a basis for conversation.
I asked them how many bad doctors they had and as a rule, no complaints. They were 18 after all.
Now, I taught at a neighborhood school next to low income housing and asked about how many police officers they met who were bad. Surprise, most found most of them ok. But the ones who weren't, stuck out so much that they refused to go to the police for problems. It became a social thing despite the sense that all cops weren't bad.
Societies hinge on the structure of its institutions. Societies are us. If badmouthing an institution gives you a group for identity purposes, you'll attach.
A problem with that identity is often its reliance on anecdotal evidence rather than a more inclusive picture.
Education was not a priority for many of my students nor was health care. But law enforcement was always close by.
Identity with an impression was a unifying factor, more than actual experience.
People need to belong to something. They will belong, but will leadership lead or manage for power?
Voting patterns reveal a psychology of the voter.
Have to get to them when they are young.

[Beastly Boy]

5. Not to mention gratuitous mass harassment of good prosecutors

from... everyone who pretend to know better.

[kimbutgar]

8. Also you don't leave being Teacher at school when you go home at night

You still have to grade papers, make up lesson plans, get copies of worksheets together in weekly homework packages and don’t get me started on doing student evaluations and attending IEP’s if you have a special Ed student in your class due to inclusion when a principal is being pressured by a parent and insists that you have to have that special needs kid n your class.

These anti teachers have no idea how much work is involved in being a full time teacher.