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malaise

(268,863 posts)
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 01:54 PM Mar 2023

Largest protests in Israel's history - 500,000 against Bibi

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-64929563

Hundreds of thousands of Israelis rallied against the government's judicial plans on Saturday night, in what organisers said were the biggest street protests in Israel's history.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says the changes - which would curb the power of courts - will restore balance between the branches of government.

Opponents say they threaten democracy.

At one of Saturday's rallies, opposition leader Yair Lapid said this was Israel's "greatest crisis".
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Byebye Bibi - you and the right will lose
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Largest protests in Israel's history - 500,000 against Bibi (Original Post) malaise Mar 2023 OP
Yair Lapid is right. Thx. Malaise....n/t yorkster Mar 2023 #1
Bibi is a f*cking autocrat. Joinfortmill Mar 2023 #2
"The only democracy in the mideast" The Blue Flower Mar 2023 #3
Not really malaise Mar 2023 #5
Israel is the 29th most democratic country in the world. Mosby Mar 2023 #11
And the US is now the 30th. Aren't we proud... hlthe2b Mar 2023 #14
+1 JustAnotherGen Mar 2023 #25
Not really malaise Mar 2023 #6
You can't call it apartheid when all Israeli Arabs vote and get represented in the Knesset Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #21
Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2023 #4
He keeps pushing his authoritarian dictator direction-- he might want to think back through history hlthe2b Mar 2023 #7
Let's hope they finally get rid of him, he's been there WAY too long Warpy Mar 2023 #8
We used to wash the old diapers and put them back on the bebe. Bibi's diapers are permanently soiled erronis Mar 2023 #9
They're full of religious nuts who think Bibi is one of them Warpy Mar 2023 #13
Half a million folks in the streets, for weeks now! Anyone supporting Bibi is fascist. Alexander Of Assyria Mar 2023 #18
Right wing criminals are in charge in Israel and trying to take the reins of USA too. lark Mar 2023 #10
They are in charge of way too many countries on our planet malaise Mar 2023 #12
Yes. Wherever government is the big troublemaker, Hortensis Mar 2023 #24
Are they the same people who voted Bible back into office? sinkingfeeling Mar 2023 #15
Ding ding malaise Mar 2023 #16
No they are not. Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #23
Sounds good. Why do they keep voting him in? elleng Mar 2023 #17
IMO moondust Mar 2023 #19
You're prolly right. Just what the world DOESN't need. elleng Mar 2023 #20
just to give perspective based on the populations of Israel and the US. patphil Mar 2023 #22
Was thinking about that malaise Mar 2023 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Mar 2023 #27

The Blue Flower

(5,439 posts)
3. "The only democracy in the mideast"
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 02:13 PM
Mar 2023

There goes the US rationale for supporting Israel no matter what. Also called "cutting off your nose to spite your face," Bibi.

malaise

(268,863 posts)
5. Not really
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 02:20 PM
Mar 2023

You can't have apartheid for one section of the population and call it democracy.

Jimmy Carter called that right. Still it's good to see people waking up. Maybe they will eventually defend the rights of all.

Mosby

(16,297 posts)
11. Israel is the 29th most democratic country in the world.
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 03:00 PM
Mar 2023

If the researchers who create the Democracy Index really believed that 5.5 million Palestinians were disenfranched citizens who are denied representation and voting rights (like in South African Apartheid) they wouldn't be a democracy at all. And they wouldn't list Palestine as a separate country.


FYI "Palestine" landed at 110, because they have unelected leaders.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217712544

malaise

(268,863 posts)
6. Not really
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 02:20 PM
Mar 2023

You can't have apartheid for one section of the population and call it democracy.

Jimmy Carter called that right. Still it's good to see people waking up. Maybe they will eventually defend the rights of all.

Beastly Boy

(9,283 posts)
21. You can't call it apartheid when all Israeli Arabs vote and get represented in the Knesset
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 04:31 PM
Mar 2023

and Isreli government.

There is a clear distinction between the Palestinians with Israeli citizenship and Palestinians in the occupied territories, a fact that makes accusations of apartheid fly out the window. Whatever you call the way Israel treats Palestinians, it is not apartheid and it is not racism. Using those labels when referring to Israel obscures and belittles the real meaning of these terms, as well as the people who have been victims of either.

hlthe2b

(102,197 posts)
7. He keeps pushing his authoritarian dictator direction-- he might want to think back through history
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 02:21 PM
Mar 2023

It may be Israel and not 1940s Italy, but history does repeat itself--or at least echoes.

Warpy

(111,230 posts)
8. Let's hope they finally get rid of him, he's been there WAY too long
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 02:50 PM
Mar 2023

They really need to learn the saying about politicians and diapers needing to be changed often and for the same reason.

erronis

(15,219 posts)
9. We used to wash the old diapers and put them back on the bebe. Bibi's diapers are permanently soiled
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 02:55 PM
Mar 2023

I don't understand how the Israelis didn't understand that he was a right-wing crook who would try to take over his country....

Just like orban, trump, modi, bolsonaro, etc.

Warpy

(111,230 posts)
13. They're full of religious nuts who think Bibi is one of them
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 03:08 PM
Mar 2023

and that he's been keeping them safe. Plus, their form of government forces som pretty odd coalitions, and he's always been really good at building those among parties that have little in common. He's a strong man's strong man.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
18. Half a million folks in the streets, for weeks now! Anyone supporting Bibi is fascist.
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 03:56 PM
Mar 2023

Democratic nations are hard to corrupt and exploit for power and profit, better fascism where everyone in power is corrupt. …or the facade of democracy, or baby steps towards freedoms,… The West pretends it doesn’t see and keeps on supporting for same reasons.

Saudi anyone?

lark

(23,083 posts)
10. Right wing criminals are in charge in Israel and trying to take the reins of USA too.
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 02:56 PM
Mar 2023

To hell with every one of them.

malaise

(268,863 posts)
12. They are in charge of way too many countries on our planet
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 03:01 PM
Mar 2023

It is time for a clean up, but there is so much effin greed and corruption that I don’t know who can sort out this mess.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. Yes. Wherever government is the big troublemaker,
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 05:04 PM
Mar 2023

hard-core conservatives are in power. Occasionally LW extremist blocs, but almost always RW.

As in today's Israel, where forces for liberal ideals, including the courts, are having to take to the streets.

Elections are having especially big consequences in this era.

Beastly Boy

(9,283 posts)
23. No they are not.
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 04:50 PM
Mar 2023

Bibi got 32% of the vote the last time around. I strongly doubt that those 32% would be able to get half a million Israelis out on the streets to protest.

moondust

(19,971 posts)
19. IMO
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 04:10 PM
Mar 2023

many Israeli voters wanted radical strongmen to clamp down on increasing Palestinian attacks and to expand settlements.

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"The situation in the West Bank is worse than it has been for many years," said Ibrahim Ramadan, the Palestinian Authority governor of Nablus, who said there was a complete breakdown of trust on the part of young men radicalised by daily confrontations with troops and Israeli settlers.

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https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/west-bank-violence-burns-israeli-election-nears-2022-10-11/

patphil

(6,162 posts)
22. just to give perspective based on the populations of Israel and the US.
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 04:47 PM
Mar 2023

500,000 protesting in Israel would be equivalent of over 18 million people protesting in the US.

Given the duration of the protests, this is an incredible event. Netanyahoo needs to go.
Note: misspelling is deliberate.

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