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RandySF

(58,337 posts)
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 11:47 PM Mar 2023

Wall Street -- not taxpayers -- will pay for the SVB and Signature deposit relief plans

WASHINGTON — Plans announced Sunday to fully reimburse deposits made in the collapsed Silicon Valley Bank and the shuttered Signature Bank will rely on Wall Street and large financial institutions — not taxpayers — to foot the bill, Treasury officials said.

“For the banks that were put into receivership, the FDIC will use funds from the Deposit Insurance Fund to ensure that all of its depositors are made whole,” said a senior Treasury Department official, who spoke to reporters Sunday about the plan on the condition of anonymity.

“The Deposit Insurance Fund is bearing the risk,” the official emphasized. “This is not funds from the taxpayer.”

The Deposit Insurance Fund is part of the FDIC and funded by quarterly fees assessed on FDIC-insured financial institutions, as well as interest on funds invested in government bonds.

The DIF currently has over $100 billion in it, a sum the Treasury official said was “more than fully sufficient” to cover SVB and Signature depositors.

The Biden administration is deeply aware of the public anger sparked by taxpayer-funded bailouts of major Wall Street banks during the 2008 financial crisis, and using the DIF to shore up depositors is seen as a way to avoid repeating the same process.

To that end, federal officials strongly pushed back on the idea that the plans for SVB and Signature constituted a “bailout.”

“The banks’ equity and bond holders are being wiped out,” said the official at Treasury. “They took a risk as owners of the securities, they will take the losses.”





https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/13/wall-street-not-taxpayers-will-pay-for-the-svb-and-signature-deposit-relief-plans-.html

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Wall Street -- not taxpayers -- will pay for the SVB and Signature deposit relief plans (Original Post) RandySF Mar 2023 OP
If Repugs take all three branches of govt in '24, the FDIC is toast peppertree Mar 2023 #1
Who holds the bonds? roamer65 Mar 2023 #2
Are you looking for a reason to screw depositors? RandySF Mar 2023 #3
Do you think we should insure Roku's $487M? roamer65 Mar 2023 #8
The banks paid the fees to cover it. RandySF Mar 2023 #10
I have a problem with bending the rules for multimillions depositors. roamer65 Mar 2023 #12
Up to the 250K limit. Roku had 400M+ with SVB. Should they be made whole? Are kelly1mm Mar 2023 #19
Roku employs 3,000 people. RandySF Mar 2023 #21
Does this trickle down to those w/ IRA's or those still contributing to 401's? Deuxcents Mar 2023 #4
Can you elaborate? RandySF Mar 2023 #5
It's said that Wall Street will pay, not the taxpayers Deuxcents Mar 2023 #6
Very possible. roamer65 Mar 2023 #9
Which are not insured. RandySF Mar 2023 #11
The Deposit Insurance Fund if bearing the risk, not taxpayers, huh? gratuitous Mar 2023 #7
The government bonds held by DIF will have to be monetized. roamer65 Mar 2023 #13
The money is coming from the DIF. It came from the doc03 Mar 2023 #14
SVB and Signature are being liquidated and auctioned off. RandySF Mar 2023 #15
I smell another TARP coming. roamer65 Mar 2023 #17
They need to claw-back the bonuses - no one needs to be rewarded for failed performance. walkingman Mar 2023 #16
Wall street may pay another way in the form of a black Monday yaesu Mar 2023 #18
The pre-market for the DOW is up multigraincracker Mar 2023 #20
Thank you. betsuni Mar 2023 #22
Here is President Biden's statement LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2023 #23

peppertree

(21,586 posts)
1. If Repugs take all three branches of govt in '24, the FDIC is toast
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 11:51 PM
Mar 2023

They'll use Farce News and their other media mouthpieces to slam it as a "New Deal relic" and a "moral hazard" - and then proceed to relieve the banksters of the "burden" of maintaining it.

After that? God help us all.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
2. Who holds the bonds?
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 11:52 PM
Mar 2023

Im sure other banks are bond holders.

The Federal Reserve is giving member banks special loaning privilege in the interim.

That means there is exposure in the banking system.

It’s creating money to insure solvency.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
12. I have a problem with bending the rules for multimillions depositors.
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 12:15 AM
Mar 2023

There is a $250k limit to ensure the deposit insurance fund can support other failures as well.

I smell another TARP coming.

kelly1mm

(4,732 posts)
19. Up to the 250K limit. Roku had 400M+ with SVB. Should they be made whole? Are
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 12:49 AM
Mar 2023

we not just better off saying FDIC insurance is unlimited from here on out?

Deuxcents

(16,042 posts)
6. It's said that Wall Street will pay, not the taxpayers
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 12:09 AM
Mar 2023

But taxpayers n working people are contributing to their retirement funds n retirees are taking distributions. How will this trickle down or will it?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
7. The Deposit Insurance Fund if bearing the risk, not taxpayers, huh?
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 12:10 AM
Mar 2023

How is the DIF funded? Oh, through quarterly fees assessed on FDIC-insured financial institutions and interest on funds invested in government bonds. Sounds so benign. Do these quarterly fees and government bond investments come out of the bank executive or from somewhere else? Like, could these financial institutions be paying higher interest rates to depositors if they didn't have to be forced to backstop the bad actors in their industry?

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
13. The government bonds held by DIF will have to be monetized.
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 12:16 AM
Mar 2023

Aka quantitative easing…via money creation.

Also probably another TARP program like 2008 and 2009.

doc03

(35,282 posts)
14. The money is coming from the DIF. It came from the
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 12:28 AM
Mar 2023

customers of banks all over the country not just SVB my bank and your bank. Fees from our 401ks, IRAs, our savings accounts.
Don't give me this bs about we aren't bailing them out again. Maybe it has to be done because once again they are too big to fail, just don't bullshit us again.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
17. I smell another TARP coming.
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 12:34 AM
Mar 2023

Fucking Trump deregulated the banks and now another fucking Trump/Powell mess to clean up.



God, I wish we would have had Hillary as president. Hillary would not have weakened Dodd-Frank.

FDIC and the Federal Reserve are now talking a special fund to clean up other banks that fail.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
18. Wall street may pay another way in the form of a black Monday
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 12:46 AM
Mar 2023

If they overreact tomorrow. I'm not an investor and have no fucks to give if they do but will be interviewing to see how the casino acts.

multigraincracker

(32,620 posts)
20. The pre-market for the DOW is up
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 01:26 AM
Mar 2023

almost 400 points right now. Doesn’t look like a black Monday is going to happen.
The money is still there but it is invested in low interest long term investments. Big investors want to pull it out to get higher returns. It seems more and more like it’s not the end of the world.

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