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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,922 posts)
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 12:58 PM Mar 2023

Moscow fumes as Ukraine considers changing Russia's official name

Russian officials railed against Ukraine’s talk of changing Russia’s official name to Muscovy, after a Ukrainian petition regarding a potential name change garnered 25,000 signatures.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky reportedly instructed Ukrainian Prime Minister Denis Shmygal to “carefully” consider renaming Russia to Muscovy, accounting for consequences under international law and whether it was possible in historical and cultural contexts.

Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova said in a statement posted to Telegram on Saturday that Zelensky is trying to create an “anti-Russia Ukraine.”

Dmitry Medvedev, a close ally of President Vladimir Putin and deputy chairman of Russia’s Security Council, also reacted to the news, saying that they will not consider changing the name, according to The New Voice of Ukraine.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/moscow-fumes-as-ukraine-considers-changing-russia-s-official-name/ar-AA18xNSp

Don't think Ukraine can legally change the name but it cracks me up that they're getting under the Russian leaders' skin.

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Moscow fumes as Ukraine considers changing Russia's official name (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2023 OP
Ha ha! What a bunch of pathetic snowflakes! Initech Mar 2023 #1
The terrorist govt of russia created an anti-ruskie Ukraine! SheltieLover Mar 2023 #2
I love the concept of pissing off Putin LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2023 #3
It's only fair, since the Russia calls Ukraine "Little Russia". DetlefK Mar 2023 #4
If Russia does not want an "anti-Russia Ukraine", maybe they should stop invading it. Midnight Writer Mar 2023 #5
The funniest part is not Putin's indignance (though it is pretty funny). DFW Mar 2023 #6
+1 ruzzian spokesperson "duh" moment...nt mitch96 Mar 2023 #8
Now, it's a historical response. Igel Mar 2023 #7
East Latvia? moondust Mar 2023 #9

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
4. It's only fair, since the Russia calls Ukraine "Little Russia".
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 01:47 PM
Mar 2023
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Russia

"Malorossiya" is the historical term for those territories of the medieval russian kingdom that currently make up Ukraine. It fell out of everyday-use in the 15th century.

Nowadays, the term is mostly used in Russia to denigrate Ukraine's claim of being a sovereign country.

Midnight Writer

(21,751 posts)
5. If Russia does not want an "anti-Russia Ukraine", maybe they should stop invading it.
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 02:43 PM
Mar 2023

Invading neighboring countries tends to drive down your approval ratings.

DFW

(54,358 posts)
6. The funniest part is not Putin's indignance (though it is pretty funny).
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 02:51 PM
Mar 2023

The funniest part is the Russian МИД spokesperson accusing Zelensky of "trying to create an anti-Russia Ukraine.”

The Russians bomb their cities, poison their water, mine their land, kill their civilians, kidnap their children, and then accuse THEM of trying to create an anti-Russia Ukraine? WHAT more could the Ukrainians do to create an "anti-Russia Ukraine" that the Russians haven't already done--with masterful thoroughness, I might add--by themselves?

Igel

(35,300 posts)
7. Now, it's a historical response.
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 03:54 PM
Mar 2023

Muscovy was a duchy in Rus'. But Rus' had its capital and center in the Ukraine (yes, the geographic area) when Muscovy was a recently annexed and settled area (albeit there were East Slavic speakers in the area, having ethnically cleansed or assimilated the Golyad' *Galindi that were presumably a vestigial ethnicity after the East Slavs such as the Viatichi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vyatichi, however you want to transliterate it) moved into the area.

Moscow's claim is rather like Lyons' claim to invading Rome, since Rome was the capital of the Roman Empire when Lyons was originally Romanized.

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