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winetourdriver01

(1,154 posts)
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 07:27 PM Mar 2023

Evangelicals embraced MAGA out of desperation over their 'demographic slide

Evangelicals were driven to support former President Donald Trump out of fear of their "demographic slide" and their impending loss of political and cultural relevance, argued Robert P. Jones for Religion News Service on Tuesday — and several points of data suggest that their fear is justified.

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Evangelicals embraced MAGA out of desperation over their 'demographic slide (Original Post) winetourdriver01 Mar 2023 OP
It is winetourdriver01 Mar 2023 #1
Remember when Evangelicals thought Catholic JFK was going to be controlled by the Vatican? TheBlackAdder Mar 2023 #33
Well. I don't care. They betrayed everything they claim to believe. yardwork Mar 2023 #2
In doing so, they caused a drastic fleeing from all things religious...especially Christian religion Samrob Mar 2023 #3
You're absolutely correct they made it worse, ppl were once walking away, now they're running! 2live is 2fly Mar 2023 #34
Yes, we know. They made a deal with the devil. Baitball Blogger Mar 2023 #4
Yup. They are the message of hell. AllyCat Mar 2023 #35
That is no excuse at all. Eko Mar 2023 #5
They embraced Trump with huge and genuine fervor because they knew he would 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 2023 #6
It's very simple: orthoclad Mar 2023 #7
"They don't believe in God". Mariana Mar 2023 #9
I don't think that's what Orthoclad meant GenThePerservering Mar 2023 #27
I see why you would say that, but read the post again. AllyCat Mar 2023 #36
Evangelical Christians embraced MAGA because Trump reflects their values. Mariana Mar 2023 #8
My mother is a Talibangelical End-Timer and full-on Rethuglican with Authoritarian Tendancies. OMGWTF Mar 2023 #21
I grew up in Amarillo a half century ago. markodochartaigh Mar 2023 #23
No animal realizes its species is going extinct Mr. Ected Mar 2023 #10
I don't buy "desperation" The far right has been worried about white folks... Thomas Hurt Mar 2023 #11
On reflection, I agree with you. yardwork Mar 2023 #12
THIS! THIS! THIS! OMGWTF Mar 2023 #28
If Satan was real, what would he tempt them with? ThoughtCriminal Mar 2023 #13
Indeed, power over others. markodochartaigh Mar 2023 #24
Political Christians rather than Christians of faith. keithbvadu2 Mar 2023 #14
Everything Traitor Tot touches turns to sh!t. OMGWTF Mar 2023 #20
There's no reason to doubt the veracity of their faith. Mariana Mar 2023 #37
Jimmy Carter - yes... Those who witness for Mammon? keithbvadu2 Mar 2023 #41
Perhaps they should have embraced Jesus Martin Eden Mar 2023 #15
Interesting that those deep in religion BOSSHOG Mar 2023 #22
They are the Antichristians Zorro Mar 2023 #16
Unsurprising, peddle a toxic brew and people don't want to drink it. Hassler Mar 2023 #17
They would throw Jesus to the lions to get another point in the polls. OMGWTF Mar 2023 #18
And now they have forced Gilead on all of us. SunSeeker Mar 2023 #19
If you asked them, I'll bet they'd say... ShazzieB Mar 2023 #25
For many of them, loyalty to Trump is a tenet of their Christian faith. Mariana Mar 2023 #38
They bought the ticket, they get the ride. hunter Mar 2023 #26
They can't be taken seriously. They're liars. If Jesus was standing here now, they would deport him. onecaliberal Mar 2023 #29
They should be taken seriously, because they vote. Mariana Mar 2023 #39
That only applies to white Christians. Elessar Zappa Mar 2023 #42
What they say is not serious. They're not doing anything serious in government. onecaliberal Mar 2023 #43
Democratic Party looks like 20-year-old America, while the Republican Party looks like 80-year-old A BlueWaveNeverEnd Mar 2023 #30
Evangelicals aka "white supremacists" nakocal Mar 2023 #31
it is all racism Hamlette Mar 2023 #32
What kind of fool turns from Christ to Trump? ratchiweenie Mar 2023 #40
Hateful greedy ignorant hypocritical fools Martin Eden Mar 2023 #44

TheBlackAdder

(28,179 posts)
33. Remember when Evangelicals thought Catholic JFK was going to be controlled by the Vatican?
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 10:21 PM
Mar 2023

.

Now we have a majority Catholic Supreme Court, which rules now based on their Catholic faith.

Ron DeSantis's eight grandparents are Italian Catholics.

And the Evangelicals abdicates their power and control to the Catholic Church.

.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
3. In doing so, they caused a drastic fleeing from all things religious...especially Christian religion
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 07:33 PM
Mar 2023

And hooking up with the MAGAs prevented them from introspection and cleaning their own house.

50 Shades Of Blue

(9,957 posts)
6. They embraced Trump with huge and genuine fervor because they knew he would
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 07:41 PM
Mar 2023

do everything they wanted him to do. Which was nominate anti-choice judges. That is, nominate anti-choice judges. And did I mention nominate anti-choice judges?

orthoclad

(2,910 posts)
7. It's very simple:
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 07:55 PM
Mar 2023

they want power. Period.
They don't believe in god. They believe they ARE god. And they want to wield their power, dammit.

GenThePerservering

(1,797 posts)
27. I don't think that's what Orthoclad meant
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 09:49 PM
Mar 2023

if I read it aright, they *do* think they're God because they have remade what is considered an infinite deity into their own image.

Atheists don't bother with all of that rubbish - they do good because it's the right thing to do, kind of like people of all sorts of beliefs who actually walk their talk.

OMGWTF

(3,949 posts)
21. My mother is a Talibangelical End-Timer and full-on Rethuglican with Authoritarian Tendancies.
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 09:09 PM
Mar 2023

She is the absolute worst person I've ever known (and I'm old) and hides her shit deeds behind her Buybull. She's going to have some 'splaining to do if she gets to the Pearly Gates. All religions suck. All of them. I don't need a religion because I have a conscience. Nature is my God.

markodochartaigh

(1,138 posts)
23. I grew up in Amarillo a half century ago.
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 09:11 PM
Mar 2023

You are absolutely correct. Everything that the evilgelicals care about is embodied in Trump and maga. Many corporate Republicans who had tried to co-habit in the same party with them since the 1980's also realized this.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
10. No animal realizes its species is going extinct
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 08:11 PM
Mar 2023

Latching onto the howler monkeys may have just been a chance occurrence in science.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
11. I don't buy "desperation" The far right has been worried about white folks...
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 08:22 PM
Mar 2023

becoming a minority for decades. The reconstructionist/dominionist/evangelicals have been praying for christian theocracy at least since Reagan.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
12. On reflection, I agree with you.
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 08:24 PM
Mar 2023

I think that right-wing Christian fundamentalists are motivated primarily by racism. They LIKE what Trump says. I don't think it was desperation or strategy.

OMGWTF

(3,949 posts)
28. THIS! THIS! THIS!
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 09:58 PM
Mar 2023

The only reason the Christofascists became anti-abortion is because they realized that it was mostly white women getting them which means fewer white babies. At its core, the racists/Rethuglicans are afraid of being treated the way they have treated minorities when they finally become one. It's so gross. Just stop being a hateful jerkhole and we'll all get along.

markodochartaigh

(1,138 posts)
24. Indeed, power over others.
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 09:13 PM
Mar 2023

So ironic that they want control over others when they refuse to control their own hate.

keithbvadu2

(36,724 posts)
14. Political Christians rather than Christians of faith.
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 08:42 PM
Mar 2023

Religion and politics use each other to gain power and wealth.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
37. There's no reason to doubt the veracity of their faith.
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 10:14 AM
Mar 2023

Do you really think it's impossible for people of faith to be politically active? A lot of fine Democrats would strongly disagree with that idea.

BOSSHOG

(37,034 posts)
22. Interesting that those deep in religion
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 09:10 PM
Mar 2023

Would care whether they had political or social relevance. Jesus and their tax exemption (if an organized church existed) would seem to be their top priorities. Political relevance should neuter any tax exemption of any church in America. And yet?? Ignorance and hatred are a horrible, volatile mix.

OMGWTF

(3,949 posts)
18. They would throw Jesus to the lions to get another point in the polls.
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 09:06 PM
Mar 2023

The churches are going down, and I couldn't be happier!

ShazzieB

(16,349 posts)
25. If you asked them, I'll bet they'd say...
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 09:21 PM
Mar 2023

...that they supported Trump because they felt called by God to do it.

That's a handy excuse for a lot of things.They can't prove it happened, but nobody can prove that didn't happen, either. And besides, it just sounds so nice, you know? "I felt that that God was calling me to [fill in the blank]."

"I didn't do it because I was feeling angry or vengeful or wanted to hurt anyone. God was calling me to do it. How could I possibly say no to Him?" 😇

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
38. For many of them, loyalty to Trump is a tenet of their Christian faith.
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 10:18 AM
Mar 2023

They believe Trump was handpicked by God to rule over the US, and that Democrats are agents of Satan. Therefore, to oppose Trump is to oppose God. This has been preached in plenty of Christian churches.

onecaliberal

(32,812 posts)
29. They can't be taken seriously. They're liars. If Jesus was standing here now, they would deport him.
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 09:58 PM
Mar 2023

They think he’s a brown hair, blue eyed, white man.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
39. They should be taken seriously, because they vote.
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 10:24 AM
Mar 2023

Trump got about 80% of the Evangelical Christians' votes, in 2016 and in 2020.

For the record, it wasn't just the Evangelical Christians who put Trump in office in 2016. Trump got the majority of the Christians' votes overall - 58% of Protestants, 52% of Catholics, and 61% of Mormons. He could never have taken office without their support, and they should not be deprived of their fair share of the credit for his disastrous presidency.

Elessar Zappa

(13,944 posts)
42. That only applies to white Christians.
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 11:56 AM
Mar 2023

The majority of non-white Christians voted for Biden, especially black evangelicals.

onecaliberal

(32,812 posts)
43. What they say is not serious. They're not doing anything serious in government.
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 12:36 PM
Mar 2023

We vote too, and millions more of us at that.

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(7,882 posts)
30. Democratic Party looks like 20-year-old America, while the Republican Party looks like 80-year-old A
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 10:01 PM
Mar 2023

"In terms of its racial and religious composition, the Democratic Party looks like 20-year-old America, while the Republican Party looks like 80-year-old America."

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yep. old folks passing backwards laws to impose on young people

nakocal

(549 posts)
31. Evangelicals aka "white supremacists"
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 10:04 PM
Mar 2023

are driven to obtain power. They have very little to do with Christianity.

Hamlette

(15,411 posts)
32. it is all racism
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 10:15 PM
Mar 2023

I noticed when they first started saying whites would be a majority minority group by 2050. Whites realized that minorities have been treated horribly, especially by white people.

So, they knew, their lives were going to be shit in a few short years.

All the freakouts are a result of that. This is more evidence.

Martin Eden

(12,861 posts)
44. Hateful greedy ignorant hypocritical fools
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 01:25 PM
Mar 2023

I'm sure some other adjectives apply as well, but none of them apply to "Christian" in the true sense of that word.

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