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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 07:41 PM Mar 2023

Joe Tacopina, TFG's atty, just said on CNN that there are some states

that don't allow a candidate to be on the ballot if they are indicted.?? Is that true? Could that mean ( plenty of ifs) that if TFG ends up with nomination it would be without certain states? And ultimately zero electoral votes?

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Joe Tacopina, TFG's atty, just said on CNN that there are some states (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2023 OP
If they are red states they will rush to have that over turned...... Lovie777 Mar 2023 #1
Strikes me that his campaign would know that by now? Hell, if his atty Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2023 #2
I believe that would be unconstitutional JohnSJ Mar 2023 #3
Tacopina, Shmacopina. dchill Mar 2023 #4
He's right, sort of. Metaphorical Mar 2023 #5
I don't believe any state restriction would apply to federal offices that have constitutionally grantcart Mar 2023 #7
Why would he purport this idea? Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2023 #13
Maybe he didn't mean it literally but was being metaphorical grantcart Mar 2023 #16
US Constitution Article II, Section 1, Clause 5. rsdsharp Mar 2023 #8
Indicted does not equal convicted. dclarston13 Mar 2023 #6
I know. Not convicted. Makes total sense. Why would his Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2023 #12
Bullshit Effete Snob Mar 2023 #9
Yikes. Why are u so mean? Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2023 #11
I think her question marks were intended in a very critical way. grantcart Mar 2023 #17
More quizzical. Are there any states that had a Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2023 #19
If they tried, I doubt it would be upheld in Federal Court given requirements for President are hlthe2b Mar 2023 #10
Who is "they"? A state? Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2023 #14
Yes, of course. The OP asked about the lawyer's claims that there are STATES that would disallow hlthe2b Mar 2023 #15
Ok thanks. For some reason my first thought was "they"meaning trump defense. Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2023 #20
Eugene Debs ran while in Atlanta Prison. Captain Zero Mar 2023 #18
LPMAD's question made me curious, but no quick, definitive answer popped up. Hortensis Mar 2023 #21
Thanks. I've been digging a bit. Looks like what he said Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2023 #22
Lol, that'd be fun to see. And in Ring 3, tRump's battle to escape... Hortensis Mar 2023 #23
Haha. Hope he needs to buy a lot of jet fuel:). My sister Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2023 #24
Lol, that would be an amusing twist. Just looked it up, Hortensis Mar 2023 #25
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
2. Strikes me that his campaign would know that by now? Hell, if his atty
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 07:50 PM
Mar 2023

Is mentioning.

I can hear trump saying... Fight it. Delay any and every indictment as long as possible. Oops

Metaphorical

(1,602 posts)
5. He's right, sort of.
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 08:04 PM
Mar 2023

Several states in the United States had waiting periods that impacted the eligibility of individuals with felony convictions to run for public office. However, it's important to note that these waiting periods generally apply to all felony convictions and not just those related to federal offenses. Additionally, these waiting periods may vary depending on the specific state and the type of office being sought.

For example, in Florida, a person convicted of a felony may be eligible to run for public office after completing all terms of their sentence, including probation and parole. However, they must also have their civil rights restored, which includes the right to vote and the right to hold public office.

In Tennessee, a person convicted of certain felonies may be ineligible to run for state office for a period of time after completing their sentence. The waiting period varies depending on the offense, ranging from three to ten years.

In Alabama, a person convicted of a felony may be eligible to run for public office after completing their sentence, but must also have their civil and political rights restored. The process for restoration of rights includes an application to the Board of Pardons and Paroles and may include a waiting period of up to five years.

If he was convicted, TFG would be ineligible to run in Florida, Tennessee, Alabama, South Carolina or Mississippi until he served his sentence and had his voting rights restored. That would mean he'd be running with a 70 electoral vote handicap, as every single one of these states went for him in 2020.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
7. I don't believe any state restriction would apply to federal offices that have constitutionally
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 08:16 PM
Mar 2023

Defined requirements.

rsdsharp

(9,161 posts)
8. US Constitution Article II, Section 1, Clause 5.
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 08:22 PM
Mar 2023

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.


That’s it. A state can’t graft on other “qualifications.” That takes a Constitutional Amendment.

dclarston13

(407 posts)
6. Indicted does not equal convicted.
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 08:12 PM
Mar 2023

Indicted will help him, and not prevent him from running at all. For his followers he will be a warrior at battle with evil.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
12. I know. Not convicted. Makes total sense. Why would his
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 08:44 PM
Mar 2023

Atty bring this up? No EVs from one state would affect pop vote

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
19. More quizzical. Are there any states that had a
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 10:27 AM
Mar 2023

rule about indicted parties not being on ballot? Highly doubtful. And WHY would he say that?

My mind doesn't immediately go to trashing the messenger. IMHO, even devils have a purpose for what they say

hlthe2b

(102,192 posts)
10. If they tried, I doubt it would be upheld in Federal Court given requirements for President are
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 08:32 PM
Mar 2023

clearly laid out and thus not a disqualification.

hlthe2b

(102,192 posts)
15. Yes, of course. The OP asked about the lawyer's claims that there are STATES that would disallow
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 09:45 PM
Mar 2023

Trump from appearing on the ballot "if indicted" (not even claiming he'd have to be convicted, so doubly ridiculous). I was addressing the point of the OP, so of course "THEY" is the STATES the lawyer claimed would prohibit Trump from appearing on the ballot.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
20. Ok thanks. For some reason my first thought was "they"meaning trump defense.
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 10:30 AM
Mar 2023

In retrospect, didn't make sense - sorry.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. LPMAD's question made me curious, but no quick, definitive answer popped up.
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 10:35 AM
Mar 2023

Fwiw, no one's posted knowing of a state that has such a law, unconstitutional or otherwise. And even more, I found no articles speculating that a state might refuse to put him on the ballot, and goodness knows everything else has been speculated about multitudinously.

Otoh, no doubt Tacopina's the usual serial liar, and my interest in him stops short of digging in to confirm that.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
22. Thanks. I've been digging a bit. Looks like what he said
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 11:15 AM
Mar 2023

was definitely untrue. But wonder if it may point back to campaigning? IF someone charges trump with a felony, they may not be able to travel outside applicable jurisdiction without permission. Now he doesn't live in any of the places except Florida so not sure how that would work. But could put a crimp in his ability to campaign?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
24. Haha. Hope he needs to buy a lot of jet fuel:). My sister
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 12:24 PM
Mar 2023

Said if he gets charged with a felony in NY the DeSantis has to approve extradition!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. Lol, that would be an amusing twist. Just looked it up,
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 01:21 PM
Mar 2023

being argued but it looks like DeSantis could delay but possibly not block his extradition. Whichever, just the thought of extradition is "wicked awesome" and wherever tRump goes is a circus. In Ring 3, the biggest ever, most perfect head in the world will explode all over his MAGA crowd!

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