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Nevilledog

(51,070 posts)
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 02:03 AM Mar 2023

OMFG..... Tucker & Alex Jones are saying Trump is AUTISTIC

https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/trump-autistic-tucker-carlson-alex-jones-rcna74955

Former President Donald Trump has never claimed to have been diagnosed with any neurological or behavioral disorders.

Nevertheless, others have tried to do so on his behalf — diagnosing him as a narcissist and a number of other conditions that could explain his bizarre, boisterous and bumbling behavior.

And now some of Trump’s favorite extremists are getting in on the guessing game.

Fox News host Tucker Carlson and Infowars owner Alex Jones, right-wing conspiracy theorists who’ve publicly fawned over Trump for years, have recently characterized him as “autistic."

Carlson made his remarks Friday on right-wing podcast while questioning Trump's recent, outlandish claim that he could single-handedly end Russia’s war in Ukraine.

*snip*


Unfuckingbelievable
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OMFG..... Tucker & Alex Jones are saying Trump is AUTISTIC (Original Post) Nevilledog Mar 2023 OP
Let the back pedaling commence captain queeg Mar 2023 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Meadowoak Mar 2023 #2
What signs are there in his behavior? wnylib Mar 2023 #10
I might be a pumpkin pie. we can do it Mar 2023 #18
Someone should put them on the spot and ask them what the characteristics of autism are... RockRaven Mar 2023 #3
Good point. I have a relative with autism. TFG's behavior spooky3 Mar 2023 #4
Is that like one of those idiot savants but without the savant part? n/t brewens Mar 2023 #5
right! Just an idiot! jcgoldie Mar 2023 #17
Nope. nolabear Mar 2023 #6
Have you followed Mary Trump's observations of his many disorders? Brother Buzz Mar 2023 #7
I have. I thing she's got him pretty well pegged. nolabear Mar 2023 #27
i have a son on the spectrum. hi functioning. mopinko Mar 2023 #16
It is. And right/wrong itself is a spectrum. nolabear Mar 2023 #25
My leighbythesea2 Mar 2023 #34
I've taught autistic kids all over the spectrum. He's the opposite of autistic. lindysalsagal Mar 2023 #21
You're right. He's as malignant narcissist as I've ever seen nolabear Mar 2023 #24
i'm trying to picture and aspie con man. mopinko Mar 2023 #31
Marjorie Taylor Greene says rooboy Mar 2023 #8
.... trusty elf Mar 2023 #13
you nearly owed me a keyboard. niyad Mar 2023 #37
... Celerity Mar 2023 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author trusty elf Mar 2023 #14
He is obviously a malignant narcissist, but I'm not saying that on his behalf. pnwmom Mar 2023 #9
There's no category for "Flaming Asshole" in DSM-5. nt Buns_of_Fire Mar 2023 #11
Ahh the old "pre-indictment possible defense trial balloon" Takket Mar 2023 #12
Exactly what I'm thinking KS Toronado Mar 2023 #15
My 1st thought. mercuryblues Mar 2023 #32
Maybe Trump should sue them for deformation. n/t tinymontgomery Mar 2023 #19
He'll think it means he's a great painter bif Mar 2023 #20
They meant to say asshole. redwitch Mar 2023 #22
Almost certainly not. LeftishBrit Mar 2023 #23
As an autistic person, I find this offensive af. Oneironaut Mar 2023 #26
Truth! nolabear Mar 2023 #28
he could single-handedly end Russia's war in Ukraine ... Earth-shine Mar 2023 #29
I don't know how it is in other states EndlessWire Mar 2023 #30
Sorry, but that's an insult to autistic people everywhere peggysue2 Mar 2023 #33
Exactly, PeggySue!.. Cha Mar 2023 #41
Nailed it, Cha! peggysue2 Mar 2023 #43
Agree! LeftishBrit Mar 2023 #45
Both Tuck and Alex J. have psychology degrees oasis Mar 2023 #35
I have two diagnosed autistics at home, and a suspected third Kennah Mar 2023 #36
Only Idiots lacking one clue what autism is could call Trump that MrsCheaplaugh Mar 2023 #39
We know Fucker hates dt.. I Cha Mar 2023 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Emile Mar 2023 #42
Trump has borrowed Harvey Weinstein's courtroom Walker, tennis balls included. sarcasmo Mar 2023 #44
TFG's pure and simple EVIL. Nothing to do w/ autism. He's been evil since he was a kid and beat up allegorical oracle Mar 2023 #46

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

RockRaven

(14,958 posts)
3. Someone should put them on the spot and ask them what the characteristics of autism are...
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 02:12 AM
Mar 2023

And which ones TFG has.

But that will never happen. That's the benefit of your own show -- you control who you talk to, and can keep it safe and without challenge.

spooky3

(34,438 posts)
4. Good point. I have a relative with autism. TFG's behavior
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 02:22 AM
Mar 2023

doesn’t fit any of the patterns I’m aware of.

brewens

(13,573 posts)
5. Is that like one of those idiot savants but without the savant part? n/t
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 02:25 AM
Mar 2023

Last edited Thu Mar 16, 2023, 09:54 AM - Edit history (1)

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
6. Nope.
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 02:52 AM
Mar 2023

Trust me, I’m a professional. I also happen to have several relatives all along the spectrum. It’s a no.

mopinko

(70,077 posts)
16. i have a son on the spectrum. hi functioning.
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 09:26 AM
Mar 2023

and he has a sense of right and wrong that is a rigid as any i have ever seen.
from what i know, it’s a common thing.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
25. It is. And right/wrong itself is a spectrum.
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 01:14 PM
Mar 2023

Rules can be comforting against the barrage that assaults the senses. Predictability is usually important, and change is hard. That’s why so many autistic people eat a limited range of foods and wear certain kinds of clothes. People see the social responses as being uncaring sometimes when it’s just the opposite. The input from us wild humans is hard to manage.

leighbythesea2

(1,200 posts)
34. My
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 10:27 PM
Mar 2023

Stepson also. Rule follower, and worries endlessly about others unsafe behaviors or risky decisions.

lindysalsagal

(20,666 posts)
21. I've taught autistic kids all over the spectrum. He's the opposite of autistic.
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 11:21 AM
Mar 2023

He's a narcissist and a sociopath. Autistic kids have their own limitations an coping mechanisms, but their social interactions are the main presenting symptom. the donald lives on interactions, and ignores law, history and reality.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
24. You're right. He's as malignant narcissist as I've ever seen
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 01:08 PM
Mar 2023

But he’s not on the spectrum. One of the best description of narcissists and narcissistic rage I’ve ever heard is that people are used as though they were objects or parts of the self. Not meeting that need and having autonomy that isn’t all about filling the narcissist’s need is, to them, like an arm not working or a chair refusing to be a chair.

There’s such a long and evolving autism spectrum, but sensory input issues are always a part of it. It’s in many ways the opposite, exquisite sensitivity and the need to protect one’s self from it.

Response to rooboy (Reply #8)

pnwmom

(108,975 posts)
9. He is obviously a malignant narcissist, but I'm not saying that on his behalf.
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 05:06 AM
Mar 2023

It doesn't excuse him from anything. He is still responsible for his evil actions.

Takket

(21,555 posts)
12. Ahh the old "pre-indictment possible defense trial balloon"
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 06:16 AM
Mar 2023

If that is the route they are planning to take then they must know an argument based on the facts is going nowhere.

KS Toronado

(17,198 posts)
15. Exactly what I'm thinking
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 07:19 AM
Mar 2023

I'm autistic, I didn't know what money laundering even is, or how to start a coup, I was just doing what
Rudy told me to do. Long ways from being a stable genius. He's proving he's an idiot.

mercuryblues

(14,530 posts)
32. My 1st thought.
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 02:42 PM
Mar 2023

They know trump is screwed and are trying to give trump an out. The problem is, trump is too narcissistic to even fake being anything but being the smartest person in the room.

LeftishBrit

(41,205 posts)
23. Almost certainly not.
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 11:50 AM
Mar 2023

Autistic people find it unusually difficult to understand false belief, and therefore to lie.

Trump finds it difficult to do anything else.

Oneironaut

(5,492 posts)
26. As an autistic person, I find this offensive af.
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 01:15 PM
Mar 2023

Trump is not autistic. He is a narcissist with delusions of grandeur. His lack of social tact is because he doesn’t care about others, where as autistic people care but miss social cues. Trump is a bullying asshole with no empathy who uses his social power to dominate and humiliate others.

Not only is this offensive to autistic people like me, but, it’s ableist as fuck. Trump does have control and realizes he’s hurting others - he just enjoys it.

Earth-shine

(3,992 posts)
29. he could single-handedly end Russia's war in Ukraine ...
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 01:16 PM
Mar 2023

Of course, Trump could, and he would. He would befriend Ukraine, and then hand it right to Vlad the Imp.

EndlessWire

(6,509 posts)
30. I don't know how it is in other states
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 01:20 PM
Mar 2023

but, here in California being autistic won't get you squat in leniency. He's trying for the autistic vote? Or, planning for some kind of defense?

I think there is always a reason for what his sycophants say about him. Surely, Carlson is still dancing to his tune.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
33. Sorry, but that's an insult to autistic people everywhere
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 03:02 PM
Mar 2023

When and where did Tucker get his medical degree or is he just exercising his troll behavior?

God, I'm sick/sickened of and by these people.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
43. Nailed it, Cha!
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 10:19 AM
Mar 2023

The man's an ignorant, malignant narcissist better known as an entitled asshole.

Carlson and his ilk probably think coming up with a medical diagnosis will somehow help The Donald avoid accountability while lessening their own participation/support in this corrupt, seditious affair.

How could they know? Poor guy couldn't help himself, yada, yada.

Liars, all of them!

Kennah

(14,256 posts)
36. I have two diagnosed autistics at home, and a suspected third
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 10:56 PM
Mar 2023

They can be devious, and the youngest appears to be studying to be a hacker. But they aren't assholes.

MrsCheaplaugh

(183 posts)
39. Only Idiots lacking one clue what autism is could call Trump that
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 11:32 PM
Mar 2023

Mind, I'm no psychologist. I didn't even play one on TV, or stay at a Holiday inn Express. But I will bet my left ear that if a qualified professional could ever properly examine Trump, they'd diagnose him as a psychopath. He clicks every box on Dr. Hare's checklist:

Glib, loquacious, often superficially charming or charismatic
Compulsive liar
Pathologically self-centred
Lacks empathy
Shallow emotions

Most of all, no conscience.

Cha

(297,136 posts)
40. We know Fucker hates dt.. I
Thu Mar 16, 2023, 11:40 PM
Mar 2023

don't know about "autistic".

But, it's Obvious he's a Narcissistic EGO MANIAC.

"having an excessive or erotic interest in oneself and one's physical appearance.

Except he's too much of a Garbage machine to take care of his appearance.

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

allegorical oracle

(2,357 posts)
46. TFG's pure and simple EVIL. Nothing to do w/ autism. He's been evil since he was a kid and beat up
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 07:09 PM
Mar 2023

other kids in the neighborhood. Just plain mean, nothing else.

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