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turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 09:20 AM Mar 2023

Donald Trump: Americans Are The 'Real Threat,' Not Russia

He keeps doing this

By Conover Kennard — March 17, 2023

The Putin wing of the GOP is in the minority. A new poll from Gallup shows diminishing support for Russia in the U.S., dropping from 15% holding a favorable view to 9%. And 68% in the U.S. view Ukraine favorably.

Well, yeah. Of course. As it happens, aggressively invading a country while bombing hospitals and maternity rooms while raping women and children isn't popular. Oh, and Russia has kidnapped countless numbers of Ukrainian children, too.

But if you're Donald Trump, Russia is super cool and not a threat. And his Vladykins is an alpha male!

https://crooksandliars.com/2023/03/donald-trump-americans-are-real-threat-not

We'll since he now lives in a fascist loving state and if people want to exercise there first amendment right to protest this MF, well you probably can't because this fascist loving authoritarian is attacking the fascist that runs around the state of Florida trying to spell....woke....and since both of them now are in love "again" with that asshole in the Kremlin......maybe its time for some deportation papers to be generated since if someone supports an authoritarian then just maybe they can go live there just like that has been Steven Segal.......who just got some fucking medal from the giant Pissant living in his state of paranoia and really has blood on his hands like the orange slob father here in this country on what happened on J6 and he was being gleeful when the shit was going down..... just a rant of thoughts for this early morning ....

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Donald Trump: Americans Are The 'Real Threat,' Not Russia (Original Post) turbinetree Mar 2023 OP
Good God in Butter he said this: Botany Mar 2023 #1
I really believe that he is spy......and traitor and should be deported....... turbinetree Mar 2023 #2
He should be in the Super Max in Florence, CO Botany Mar 2023 #3
And what is really remarkable is this crap....... turbinetree Mar 2023 #6
Fun facts Botany Mar 2023 #10
IS Barr ghoing to be called to "explain" this .....I hope so... turbinetree Mar 2023 #12
IS Barr ghoing to be called to "explain" this .....I hope so... turbinetree Mar 2023 #13
Is Barr going to be called to explain himself right along with Rosenstein..... turbinetree Mar 2023 #14
I would prefer him not wasting oxygen. Tired of paying to support his ass. niyad Mar 2023 #5
I agree...... turbinetree Mar 2023 #9
On the other hand, that could be read as frank honesty that he hates the USA muriel_volestrangler Mar 2023 #25
IMPLODE your GD self, Puppet! Cha Mar 2023 #27
Eric Trump in 2014: 'We have all the funding we need out of Russia ... keithbvadu2 Mar 2023 #4
And then there was this crap.... turbinetree Mar 2023 #7
And therein describes "America First" Zambero Mar 2023 #8
Sounds like that dictator in Hungary and Russia.... turbinetree Mar 2023 #11
As someone who grew up and came of age during the Cold War? peggysue2 Mar 2023 #15
Democracy is an agreement between the representative and the represented. lindysalsagal Mar 2023 #22
Methinks the tide started turning when Russian money started finding its way tanyev Mar 2023 #24
rethugs still think of the USA as this insulated entity the rest of the world can't affect Takket Mar 2023 #16
Do they think they get the fresh strawberries from in December Walleye Mar 2023 #17
the supermarket!!! Takket Mar 2023 #18
Yes, of course! Walleye Mar 2023 #20
Exactly. It all seems simple if you're simple-minded. lindysalsagal Mar 2023 #23
This used to be a losing campaign strategy. /nt yardwork Mar 2023 #19
Here's the direct quote: "The greatest threat to western civilization today is not Russia; it's prob lindysalsagal Mar 2023 #21
MF Stupid RABID CORNERED PUTIN Cha Mar 2023 #26
It's like he tries to come up with the wrong answer to every question. Initech Mar 2023 #28

Botany

(70,482 posts)
1. Good God in Butter he said this:
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 09:32 AM
Mar 2023

The former President posted a video on Truth Social saying exactly what he said before. Trump slammed all U.S. intelligence agencies and the American people, saying Russia isn't a threat to this country. He tore into NATO.

"The greatest threat to western civilization today is not Russia; it's probably more than anything else, ourselves, and some of the horrible USA-hating people that represent us," he said.

*********

The man is an out and out Russian asset, is actively giving out Soviet era anti NATO talking points, and
is rooting for the brutal Russian war on the people of Ukraine.

turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
2. I really believe that he is spy......and traitor and should be deported.......
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 09:48 AM
Mar 2023

or sent to Florence, Colorado.......I wished I could go to Florida I would be out front of this traitors rat infested place of residence with a sign....You don't like it here get the FUCK OUT and take your BS with you AND don't let the door hit you the ass..........

Botany

(70,482 posts)
3. He should be in the Super Max in Florence, CO
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 09:59 AM
Mar 2023

We have had 3 Americans who were found guilty of espionage @ the level that Trump
was most likely at with those top secret documents at Merde a Logo and we executed
2 of them (the Rosenbergs) and the other is doing 15 life terms @ the U.S. Super Max
(FBI Agent Robert Hansen).

turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
6. And what is really remarkable is this crap.......
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 10:16 AM
Mar 2023

Criminal case against former top FBI official Charles McGonigal will include classified information: Prosecutor

McGonigal is accused of taking money from a sanctioned Russian oligarch.

ByAaron Katersky
February 9, 2023, 2:27 PM

The criminal case against former FBI agent Charles McGonigal will include classified information along with electronic communications, financial records and surveillance photos, a prosecutor said Thursday during a court hearing.

McGonigal, who has pleaded not guilty to charges over his ties to sanctioned Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska, appeared next to his attorney and a co-defendant and said nothing.

Prosecutors disclosed the types of evidence they expected to use and the judge instructed the two sides to work on a protective order to make sure nothing classified is disclosed.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/criminal-case-former-top-fbi-official-charles-mcgonigal/story?id=97011293


And this goes back I believe in my own little world to the head cheerleader of the Pissant in the Kremlin when the orange slobfather was running back in 2015......this is just amazing....



Botany

(70,482 posts)
10. Fun facts
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 10:27 AM
Mar 2023

McGonigal was being paid Oleg Deripaska and now via a family member Oleg Deripaska
has been funding Tony DeVolder (aka George Santos). DeVolder is just like Trump in that
he is a Russia paid for chaos agent.

Bill Barr dropped the indictments from Mueller on Oleg Deripaska.

turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
12. IS Barr ghoing to be called to "explain" this .....I hope so...
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 10:33 AM
Mar 2023

he can wiggle but the house of cards are closing in....and what is really remarkable is that when Congress presented the Articles of Impeachment the first time Barr played rope a dope with the facts ...and the US Senate republican majority had there chance and did nothing...and then when the second crime was committed did the same thing....and one senator at the first hearing was "concerned'.... and she gets re-elected.....

turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
13. IS Barr ghoing to be called to "explain" this .....I hope so...
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 10:33 AM
Mar 2023

he can wiggle but the house of cards are closing in....and what is really remarkable is that when Congress presented the Articles of Impeachment the first time Barr played rope a dope with the facts ...and the US Senate republican majority had there chance and did nothing...and then when the second crime was committed did the same thing....and one senator at the first hearing was "concerned'.... and she gets re-elected.....

muriel_volestrangler

(101,295 posts)
25. On the other hand, that could be read as frank honesty that he hates the USA
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 06:50 PM
Mar 2023

It's "ourselves"; that, by definition, includes him. It doesn't have to include the USA. "The horrible USA-hating people that represent us" doesn't have to mean the president; it could, for instance, mean DeSantis, the governor who represents Trump in his home state (he voted there in 2020). I don't know who his House rep is, but both his senators are Republican.

OK, he wanted it to mean Democrats; but because he's an idiot, he phrased it like an admission,

turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
7. And then there was this crap....
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 10:19 AM
Mar 2023

Criminal case against former top FBI official Charles McGonigal will include classified information: Prosecutor

McGonigal is accused of taking money from a sanctioned Russian oligarch.


https://abcnews.go.com/US/criminal-case-former-top-fbi-official-charles-mcgonigal/story?id=97011293

coincidence......he should be in Florence Colorado awaiting trial .....getting sunlight pumped in from the underground Supermax.....

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
8. And therein describes "America First"
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 10:20 AM
Mar 2023

First in line to embrace Putin-style authoritarianism and military expansion into sovereign territory, and to further the spread of both. Being an apologist for a brutal dictator and war criminal is not borne out of any ideological stance. With any and all things Trump, it is purely transactional. It is connected to what he has already received, or hopes to get, hopes to become, or hopes to conceal. Slogans and phony gestures such as hugging the flag, not to mention "America First" policy positions that would effectively weaken national security and long-held alliances, comprise a carefully-crafted manipulation of reality. The intended audience of flag-waving "patriots" eats it up, and in the process readily absorbs the grievance messaging that their freedoms and positions in American society are being threatened from within. As with Germany in the 1930's, emerging scapegoats, marginalized groups, and "solutions to problems" are center-stage. The messaging is simple, and effective. Trump himself once remarked with uncommon candor that he "loved the poorly educated". And there's a reason for that perverse self-serving association. Keeping people in a tightly controlled information bubble, ignorant and afraid of the boogeymen who are perceived as threatening their very existence, provides a strongman with control over those subjects.

turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
11. Sounds like that dictator in Hungary and Russia....
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 10:28 AM
Mar 2023

I am getting ready to read a book after I finish Myth America by Kruse and Zelizer, which is a a good read,

called :

Bring The War Home, The White Power Movement and Paramilitary America by Kathleen Belew, she wrote and essay in Myth America, that was starling to read....

peggysue2

(10,826 posts)
15. As someone who grew up and came of age during the Cold War?
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 10:42 AM
Mar 2023

I find this love and admiration of all things Putin astonishing and disgusting. Detente was fine, a good thing pulling us back from a nuclear Armageddon. But the idea these Russian-leaning Republicans would put American national security and Western values behind a gangster regime is shocking and inexplicable.

All in the service of a small, petty man who has despot envy!

I will never understand it nor will I understand the Americans cheering for the demise of our American Republic.

The America First (fascist) Movement was dangerous in the 30's and 40's. It's dangerous now, perhaps more so with the 24/7 propaganda channels flooding the zone with disinformation.

We're in a fight for our lives!

lindysalsagal

(20,640 posts)
22. Democracy is an agreement between the representative and the represented.
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 12:54 PM
Mar 2023

When we can't even agree on video of an armed insurrection in our own capital, agreement seems to not be one of the options.

Maybe humans really can't self-govern. Maybe we're peaking at feudal. Who knows.

tanyev

(42,541 posts)
24. Methinks the tide started turning when Russian money started finding its way
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 01:11 PM
Mar 2023

into GOP campaigns and personal bank accounts.

Takket

(21,550 posts)
16. rethugs still think of the USA as this insulated entity the rest of the world can't affect
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 10:47 AM
Mar 2023

They are stupid.

They have no concept that we live in a global community now. Where the fates of one country can affect another. Ukraine produces a large amount of the world's wheat. can you fathom the impact to our national interests if Russia has control of that much of the food supply?

lindysalsagal

(20,640 posts)
21. Here's the direct quote: "The greatest threat to western civilization today is not Russia; it's prob
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 12:38 PM
Mar 2023

The former President posted a video on Truth Social saying exactly what he said before. Trump slammed all U.S. intelligence agencies and the American people, saying Russia isn't a threat to this country. He tore into NATO.

"The greatest threat to western civilization today is not Russia; it's probably more than anything else, ourselves, and some of the horrible USA-hating people that represent us," he said.

Initech

(100,054 posts)
28. It's like he tries to come up with the wrong answer to every question.
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 07:53 PM
Mar 2023

No, Putin is the fucking bad guy in this equation here.

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