Capitol riot defendant Xmas Eve Plan: Use measures we used on Al Queda on Dems & Select Repubs

[kpete]

U P D A T E :
Former Air Force Officer Gets Prison Term for Capitol Attack
A retired Air Force officer who stormed the U.S. Capitol dressed in combat gear and carried zip-tie handcuffs into the Senate gallery has been sentenced to two years in prison
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2023-03-17/former-air-force-officer-gets-prison-term-for-capitol-attack

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Per a Justice Dept Jan 6 sentencing memo in case of Larry Brock of Texas. His sentencing hearing begins at 11am

HOLY SHIT!!!

1.

"Seize all democratic politicians and Biden key staff and select Republicans (Thune and McConnell)> Begin interrogations using measures we used on Al Queda to gain evidence on the coup"

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5.

Let the Democratic cities burn. Cut off power and food to all who oppose us.

Link to tweet

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[Irish_Dem]

1. Right out of Putin's KGB handbook.

[Ocelot II]

2. Here's the entire sentencing memo, with photographs.

Interesting reading - the guy's a real piece of work. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.227748/gov.uscourts.dcd.227748.88.0.pdf

[Auggie]

41. Thanks. Six counts, punishable up to 20 months in prison and $250,000 fine.

More details at the link above (pages 20-21).

[dalton99a]

3. POS should be recalled to active duty and tried by court-martial

[EYESORE 9001]

5. "...so many sub tasks I can't even imagine them..."

This assclown must fashion himself as a ‘big-picture guy’. Sure hope he doesn’t get bogged down with sub tasks in prison. I hope they’re all big-picture concerns.

[ornotna]

33. His biggest worry in prison

Will be wondering what color are the beans tonight for dinner.

[yardwork]

29. Hm. Plans to "eliminate" the heads of media.

In other words, a military coup.

[chowder66]

54. +1

[Botany]

4. Commander Whiz Nuts! Larry Brock.

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[Ligyron]

42. OMG, it's the fearless warrior from MealTeam6!

Bet he can bravely eliminate a whole six pack in record time.

[Sanity Claws]

43. What's with the hand gesture?

Is he making a white power symbol?

[Iggo]

47. Could very well be.

Then again, a still picture of an active scene doesn’t really tell you what’s actually happening.

In fact, I make that sign all day without thinking about it. My SIL alerted me to it last time I was complaining about these white power fuckheads and their gang signs. What’s actually happening is I’m a guitar player and that’s how I hold my pick hand. But it’s also how I hold my pick hand when I’m playing air guitar. Like when I’m sitting on the couch listening to a song, or even just thinking about a song. Or (and this was the one that gave me pause) walking down the street listening to music, or sitting on the bus listening to music, or anywhere else in public listening to music. My right hand does that all day. I also have a white buzzcut and I always dress in black t-shirts and blue jeans with black boots. And I mean always. People could be taking pictures of me any time and it’d show that I’m making that sign all day all over town. But I’m not.

Now, I’ll bet this guy makes that sign all the time and for the reasons we think he does. But it’s hard to tell from that picture if he’s doing it right there. What he IS doing right there is he’s trying to overthrow the government, gang sign or not.

[Hope22]

6. Well we knew it would happen.

Our chickens have come home to roost. The numbers prove that a fair percentage of veterans are involved here on 1/6. Fed on war and more war it’s hard to fault them. We let them do unspeakable things in Iraq and Afghanistan. We should not be surprised.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

7. ...

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Fed on war and more war it’s hard to fault them.

As a 35 year veteran, 3 combat tours, I find your statement odious, not once did I ever consider trying to overthrow our duly elected govt., and neither did the vast majority of vets, combat vets, retired or active military members, so please consider removing your ridiculous statement.

[bluestarone]

13. Here to double down on your REQUEST!

This person threw a large blanket on our vets.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

16. Thank you.

[TheRealNorth]

17. The poster qualified the statement by saying, "a fair percentage"

And I would say about half of the people that were in the military I know are full-throated MAGATS. A few more are just Conservatives that at least speak lip service to things like justice and Democracy.

So "a fair percentage" seems accurate in my experience. TFG seemed confident that if he just had the right people in charge at the top, the NCO's and enlistments would follow him.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

18. I stand by my words. nt

[TheRealNorth]

21. So...

Let's say on Jan 6th, TFG declared martial law and replaced anyone at the top of the armed forces that refused to send the armed forces into Washington DC and other cities where there was resistance to his attempted coup.

What percentage of the people in the armed forces that you know would go along and what percentage would resist?

I mean, technically, if you refused to follow those orders coming from TFG, you would be guilty in insubordination at the very least.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

22. Benedict Donald didn't and the courts would have slapped him down,

as they did on his bullshit stolen election claims, so the point is moot.

I still stand by my words.

[flashman13]

31. Militaery personel are obligated only to follow legal orders. Milley has made that abundantly clear!

[Hope22]

40. My family has many vets. Several generations. Some still serving.

I’m the peacenik and all but one of those who were enlisted think I am nothing because of it. That being said as they served I worked my butt off when their benefits were cut and plans of invasion were being thrown about as if lives involved would not be forever changed even if they were lucky and lived. I flew the flag every day one of them was in harms way. I sent packages to those stationed out of country. During the Iraq war my neighbor and I had a memorial to those Americans who lost their lives there. It wasn’t the total dead but the official number of dead on the ground. After almost five years and 5400 marker flags planted we decided that for the sake of sanity we could not do it any more. Our peace line friends helped by pulling the flags so that we could mow and then the markers were replaced over and over again. A professor from our local state university brought his class by once a quarter to show the students this memorial. They always left a note of thanks in the door.

Last year my last remaining family active service contact replied to my message with the words…I don’t know why you would think that Hope YOUR COUNTRY DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOU. My heart is broken but I always make the calls, write the emails and engage those in power with the safety and well being of all who serve, have served and will serve in mind. My heart goes out to those who have suffered from the service they gave. My heart is shattered by those who have been lost and those who still suffer from the painful and dangerous exposure their service caused them. War never ends and my being questioned by those who have served will never be answered
to their satisfaction.

[MiHale]

23. Triple that sentiment...

Jeez that’s really small thinking.

[Tanuki]

28. Thank you (from the daughter of a late 20-year Army veteran

who had a significant service connected disability). Many of our family's closest friends were also veterans who loved our country, made great personal sacrifices on its behalf, and would never have dreamed of overthrowing our democracy. I totally agree with you.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

30. +100.

[edisdead]

34. That doesn't take away from the point

That doesn't take away from the point there there is a sizable amount of Trump supporters who are ex-military including this person in the story. As an ex-military I agree with the posters point about fantasizing war, the machinery, the death..... It happens every damn time we go to war on the screens. War should be abhorrent. For some reason we glorify it as a nation That is a fact. And it has nothing to do with your service.


And also this is a personally opinion, but I really cannot stand the "I have X years of service.....blah blah blah". Good for you. But everyone else has a lifetime of having to pay for it and has to deal with the effects of our war hungry nation.

[edisdead]

61. sure seems like ya care.

You did a job. Congrats. Good job there soldier.

[edisdead]

67. Gimme a break.

Again you did a job. Great for you. All of them prey on the impoverished, the naive, and the desperate. Don’t try to tell me any different. Your “experience” will never change that fact.

There is a reason the military is under civi control. Thank the universe for that.

[edisdead]

66. Ok hoss.

See here’s the thing, not trying to belittle you or your service. Not about to do that. What my point is that you don’t have any extra weighted opinion because of it. It really has no beating on the conversation. At all.

But thanks for demonstrating exactly the attitude that gives me that impression.

[sinkingfeeling]

46. I would say there is a small percentage that take the MAGA view.

I still honor vets.

[Hekate]

49. During the BushCheney admin I worked alongside Veterans for Peace, Chapter 54....

Marched with them, planned town halls with them, liaised with other groups in our town, went to DC with them… We had vets from WWII, Korean War, Cold War, Vietnam War.

They weren’t pacifists — they just didn’t want Uncle Sam fighting stupid wars. I am a lifelong female civilian, and I agreed wholeheartedly. Bush — another politician with Daddy issues, paired with Darth Cheney — started a stupid, stupid, stupid war.

While I have been shocked at the number of veterans and active duty personnel arrested for participating in the 1/6 coup attempt, that says nothing about the integrity of your service or that of my friends from 20 years ago. So — thank you for your service.

[TheRealNorth]

8. Exactly

If you are surprised by this Republican neonazi brownshirt's thinking, you haven't been paying attention.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

9. See post 7. nt

[TheRealNorth]

19. See post 17

[MarineCombatEngineer]

20. See post 18. nt

[LakeArenal]

24. I knew trump lost the military (if he ever had them)

At the church photo op where the military leader said we are not going to attack the public.

I have been to many protests where ex- military stood with us for Democratic values.

I have relatives that were life long service people and they would never have dreamed of anything that list suggests.

If trump thought he had the military in his pocket, he would have declared martial law.

Thanks for your experienced opinion

[MarineCombatEngineer]

26. +100.

[edisdead]

35. He may have lost the brass

But if you think he largely lost the rank and file.... Well I think you are sadly mistaken.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

51. Nope, you are sadly mistaken,

the line officers, the NCO's would never have gone along with any attempt to enforce an illegal order and without them, there is no martial law.

[Elessar Zappa]

11. That's very insulting to

the vast majority of vets who take their oaths seriously.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

14. Thank you. nt

[niyad]

27. There are a fair number of vets on DU, and I know quite a few vets in my own life,

and I would ask you, in their names and honour, to delete your post.

[edisdead]

36. Good grief....

They can go fight wars but can't have a discussion?

Are we for real.


Yes I served. No it isn't a big deal.

[niyad]

55. I find it interesting that you could make that comment to me, but not to the vets

who posted here.

[edisdead]

57. I am a vet.

[niyad]

58. I had seen that, but it does not answer my observation that you chose to

address your comment to me, but not your brother vets who made the same request.

But, nice try.

[edisdead]

59. I have done that.

Besides is that a requirement?

[Hope22]

50. At some point this country has to look in the mirror and see the outcome of it all.

We are being eaten from within, collapsing upon ourselves. Our militarization of police and generations of war are a fact of our lives. The same people you think might be offended by my comment are in fact victims of the system. 1000 more potential indictments for 1/6 participants are expected. Let’s see how it plays out. I’m not sure why so many vets and law enforcement officers were involved on 1/6 but some day maybe we will understand. Maybe they can explain it. Right now Flynn and friends are doing everyone a disservice.

My thread above explains as clearly as I can my respect and care for American troops. Those serving today, yesterday and tomorrow.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

52. ....

The same people you think might be offended by my comment are in fact victims of the system.

That's funny, I don't feel victimized by the system, matter of fact, I'm grateful for the system allowing me to serve and receive the benefits of the system.

Here's my thought on your statement:

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[RandiFan1290]

10. Bombs on Christmas?

[sakabatou]

15. So these assholes were trying ANOTHER insurrection plot?

[gratuitous]

25. What's the big deal?

Looks very similar to the "to-do" list whenever I go sight-seeing. E.g., Get photos of Grand Canyon, stop at gift shop, cut off power and food to all who oppose us.

You want to capture all the details so you don't get back home and say, "Doggone it! I forgot to let the Democratic cities burn. Shoulda wrote it down."

[PatSeg]

32. Once again,

as bad as we thought it was, it was actually much worse.

[Hekate]

39. This. And while I'm contemplating that a Lt. Col. plans to torture, kill, starve & maim Americans...

… we’ve got a slew of newbies in this thread slamming all vets as the same.

[PatSeg]

44. Yeah, I saw that

People have an unfortunate tendency to put all of a certain group or demographic in the same pigeonhole, which is really sad. People are individuals and should be judged first and foremost for who and what they are.

Larry Brock is an arrogant and violent man and though he might try to apply his military training to his misadventures and crimes, I'm quite sure he was an arrogant and violent man before he joined the military. My father and my brother were in the Army and it never dawned on either of them to participate in a coup. I imagine it would be hard to find anyone here who hasn't had family members who served in the military.

[HuskyOffset]

37. He definitely had help writing that list

I see multiple grammatically correct uses of "Democratic" instead of the usual Banana Republican use of "Democrat" as an adjective.

[progressoid]

56. I noticed that too! n/t

[Midnight Writer]

38. Kinda destroys that whole "innocent tourist caught up in the moment" defense.

As well as the "antifa agitators" infiltrating and egging on the mob BS.

[sinkingfeeling]

45. And that, my friends, is sedition.

[FrankBooth]

48. This guy is a sociopath

He needs to be locked away for everyone's good, including his own.

[Initech]

65. And for the love of god, take his phone away from him!

[MagickMuffin]

53. I have a friend who went to high school with Brock

He exhibited signs of being a racist back then.


I hope he spends several years in prison

[Initech]

64. It is way, way, way past time to start declaring the MAGAs as a terrorist group.