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TomDaisy

(1,870 posts)
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 04:52 AM Mar 2023

to be clear, trump's crime was not "ticky-tack cheating on his wife"

It was committing campaign fraud so he could hide his affair from VOTERS and change the outcome of an election.

SO MANY pundits on TV saying "people are not going to like indicting a president for this little tricky tack affair."

HE WAS PAYING FOR STORMY'S SILENCE ON THE EVE OF AN ELECTION, while concurrently smearing Hillary using the FBI on the EVE OF AN ELECTION.

JFC.

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to be clear, trump's crime was not "ticky-tack cheating on his wife" (Original Post) TomDaisy Mar 2023 OP
Agreed! 634-5789 Mar 2023 #1
That's what she said Bucky Mar 2023 #2
will Stormy be arrested? Skittles Mar 2023 #3
I'm betting Stormy paid her taxes, unlike Trump. nt SunSeeker Mar 2023 #5
I was also wondering that Rorey Mar 2023 #9
Although she also says she was physically threatened over this story in 2011. mackdaddy Mar 2023 #21
And he was committing felony tax fraud by claiming the payment as a business expense. nt SunSeeker Mar 2023 #4
Hopefully. That remains to be seen if that will be the charge. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #12
There's election laws that were broke too Johnny2X2X Mar 2023 #15
the TV pundits are purposely lying BlueWaveNeverEnd Mar 2023 #6
They want to say that Twitter suppressing the hunting laptop totally affect the 2020 election, not f Walleye Mar 2023 #7
And Bill Clinton's blow job was "really about him committing perjury" about it. BComplex Mar 2023 #8
I'm glad he's being arrested but Tickle Mar 2023 #10
It really has nothing to do with the affair part. It has to do with misuse of Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #11
Yes. Using campaign funds for hush money payments is a felony. GoCubsGo Mar 2023 #13
It seems to me even on MSNBC the talking heads are going doc03 Mar 2023 #14
It IS a relatively weak crime... brooklynite Mar 2023 #17
Why all the bs about him being arrested? The media has hyped this for a couple weeks now doc03 Mar 2023 #18
Don't forget there were two women Johnny2X2X Mar 2023 #16
Another example of Repub hypocrisy. Bluepinky Mar 2023 #19
And he may not have won if he had not paid off Stormy Daniels? kentuck Mar 2023 #20
He still would have won treestar Mar 2023 #23
We'll never know... crud Mar 2023 #25
Right on! with this diary! crud Mar 2023 #22
I assume those same people are pointing back to usedtobedemgurl Mar 2023 #24

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
3. will Stormy be arrested?
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 05:35 AM
Mar 2023

you know, for blackmail and probably not paying taxes on her "earnings"

what a disgusting pair

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
9. I was also wondering that
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 07:02 AM
Mar 2023

I wonder if there's a federal Statute of Limitions on blackmail?

I agree that she's also disgusting. She accepted hush money to keep her mouth shut about her interaction with Trump, when she could have divulged it on her own before the election. I wonder how much this entire thing has enriched her. The hush money that she got was probably a drop in the bucket compared to how much she's made on her notoriety since this whole thing was exposed, to say nothing about her future earnings because of it. She's as much of a grifter as Trump is.

mackdaddy

(1,526 posts)
21. Although she also says she was physically threatened over this story in 2011.
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 10:42 AM
Mar 2023

So there is a take the 'silver or lead' implication in her keeping quiet at the time.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/25/politics/stormy-daniels-threat-60-minutes/index.html

BComplex

(8,036 posts)
8. And Bill Clinton's blow job was "really about him committing perjury" about it.
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 06:42 AM
Mar 2023

The media is NOT "LIBERAL". It is all run by republican boards of directors. The 1% owns the media.

Tickle

(2,514 posts)
10. I'm glad he's being arrested but
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 07:13 AM
Mar 2023

I was hoping it would be for treason and or stealing classified documents. We'll get there I'm sure

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
13. Yes. Using campaign funds for hush money payments is a felony.
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 08:11 AM
Mar 2023

I won't be surprised if even more crimes come out of this...

doc03

(35,325 posts)
14. It seems to me even on MSNBC the talking heads are going
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 08:31 AM
Mar 2023

out of their way to minimize Trump's crime. They are calling it a weak case and a misdemeanor. The Georgia
case, it's hard to prove intent. Meanwhile the DOJ sitts on their f----g hands. Let's face it NY and Georgia will play in
his favor with his base. The longer the DOJ takes the more the Republicans will have to make j6 a tourist visit. Trump
is going to continue running for president and has a good chance of winning.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
17. It IS a relatively weak crime...
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 09:01 AM
Mar 2023

Reminder that this is a STATE charge. Whatever the motives were, campaign fraud in a Presidential race isn't a State matter. I've heard this described as bookkeeping fraud, which is a misdemeanor unless linked to another crime (again it has to be a State crime).

doc03

(35,325 posts)
18. Why all the bs about him being arrested? The media has hyped this for a couple weeks now
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 09:32 AM
Mar 2023

and apparently it is nothing more than a speeding ticket. If that is all it is then it is just
political.

Johnny2X2X

(19,038 posts)
16. Don't forget there were two women
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 08:55 AM
Mar 2023

This is more than Stormy Daniels. Trump paid hush money to another woman too

And I agree, he’s going to be charged with felonies.

Bluepinky

(2,268 posts)
19. Another example of Repub hypocrisy.
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 10:34 AM
Mar 2023

When Clinton had an affair, it was an impeachable offense (which took months of investigation and hundreds of thousands of dollars to discover).
When Drumpy had affairs (as well as sexual assaults), plus illegal handling of hush money, it’s all “ticky-tack cheating on his wife”.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
20. And he may not have won if he had not paid off Stormy Daniels?
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 10:38 AM
Mar 2023

It casts a long shadow on his presidency, on top of all his criminality.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
23. He still would have won
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 11:14 AM
Mar 2023

If the pussy grabbing comment did not do it, the Stormy Daniels incident wouldn't.

crud

(617 posts)
25. We'll never know...
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 01:42 PM
Mar 2023

odds are... it probably wouldn't have made a difference. But keep in mind that trump thought it would make a difference at the time.

crud

(617 posts)
22. Right on! with this diary!
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 11:12 AM
Mar 2023

The news media is missing the forest for the trees. We will never know if the Stormy Daniels affair would have derailed trumps election. But we do know that trump thought it would, because he payed her off.

Who was harmed by his criminal actions? THE WHOLE WORLD

usedtobedemgurl

(1,137 posts)
24. I assume those same people are pointing back to
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 11:15 AM
Mar 2023

The blow job Clinton got and saying how unfair that was, and this would equally be unfair. Yes, I know it is about the payment, but I am trying to be “realistic” here.

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