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brooklynite

(94,461 posts)
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 11:42 AM Mar 2023

Who let the dogs out (of their seatbelts)? Florida bill bans dogs sniffing out of car windows

Palm Beach Post

A bill filed with the Florida Legislature would allow drivers to be ticketed for allowing dogs to stick their heads out of moving vehicles.

This is bound to be very unpopular with dogs, perhaps the worst news ever, unless there’s some anti butt-sniffing provisions buried in some other canine bill.

The dogs-in-seat-belts legislation has been filed by Florida Sen. Lauren Book, D-Plantation, as part of an animal welfare bill that also bans the declawing of cats, except for “therapeutic cases.”

I've long considered the impulse of dogs to stick their heads out of moving vehicles as a kind of therapy. Aroma therapy, maybe.

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Who let the dogs out (of their seatbelts)? Florida bill bans dogs sniffing out of car windows (Original Post) brooklynite Mar 2023 OP
Man, they don't want anybody to have any fun down there Walleye Mar 2023 #1
this won't end well Tetrachloride Mar 2023 #2
I never ever want to step foot in Florida again. If I want beach, I'll fly to Hawaii. Vinca Mar 2023 #3
Wow are they busy taking care of people... MiHale Mar 2023 #3
Well that will take the fun out of me barking at them! Emile Mar 2023 #5
Dogs should not be sticking their heads out of moving vehicles. milestogo Mar 2023 #6
Honestly. Most of the dog is out of the window sometimes bedazzled Mar 2023 #16
ok, glad I am not alone NT Tickle Mar 2023 #21
Maybe they haven't seen what we have bedazzled Mar 2023 #25
You are not alone. phylny Mar 2023 #40
Florida. Where freedom goes to die. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2023 #7
I think this is a really dumb move by the Democrats in Florida. Biophilic Mar 2023 #8
There are Democrats left in Florida? Chipper Chat Mar 2023 #10
Yes, there are a few of us. Biophilic Mar 2023 #14
Lawton Childs Chipper Chat Mar 2023 #22
What kind of people are going to be antagonized by this? milestogo Mar 2023 #20
I agree this shouldn' t be a partisan issue, but this is Florida right now. Biophilic Mar 2023 #24
I agree d_r Mar 2023 #35
Maybe it's a neat bit of theater Geechie Mar 2023 #9
Police state Johnny2X2X Mar 2023 #11
This is an animal welfare bill filed by a Democratic member. Hortensis Mar 2023 #34
The cat declawing provision is good and humane jcgoldie Mar 2023 #12
My dog will bite someone over that! Chainfire Mar 2023 #13
Talk to an emergency vet milestogo Mar 2023 #23
thank you. WarGamer Mar 2023 #37
I had a dog class teacher who was also an EMT. milestogo Mar 2023 #38
I saw a dog jump out of a moving car thru the window Raine Mar 2023 #44
I am in favor of this bill. I wish all states would do the same. friend of a friend Mar 2023 #15
Ii hope he survived... bedazzled Mar 2023 #26
Yes, thank you, he was a small dog and lived to a ripe old age. friend of a friend Mar 2023 #30
You are so lucky to have pets... bedazzled Mar 2023 #32
I agree with this. hippywife Mar 2023 #17
Mitt Romney won't like this bill. NYC Liberal Mar 2023 #18
I have no problem with this bill ripcord Mar 2023 #19
It is a good bill dsc Mar 2023 #27
Don't they have more important things to legislate, Ilsa Mar 2023 #28
No. But they can legislate more than one thing. friend of a friend Mar 2023 #31
My Dog Wears A Seatbelt ProfessorGAC Mar 2023 #29
Your dog is a lucky and well loved dog. milestogo Mar 2023 #39
Shhhh! ProfessorGAC Mar 2023 #41
We had a coonhound kskiska Mar 2023 #33
Dogs hanging out the window equals bad pet parent. WarGamer Mar 2023 #36
Part of the bill says no dogs riding on motorcycles either EX500rider Mar 2023 #42
Good!👍 Dogs should not have their heads sticking out of car windows Raine Mar 2023 #43

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
6. Dogs should not be sticking their heads out of moving vehicles.
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 12:03 PM
Mar 2023

Would you drive with your child's head sticking out the car window?

Dogs can be harmed, and people can be harmed.

They are more likely to jump out the window, in which case they can be hit by a car. Accidents can be caused by people slamming on their brakes to avoid hitting the dog.


Dogs should ride in a crate or wearing a harness/seat belt. You can put the window down for them to enjoy.

bedazzled

(1,761 posts)
16. Honestly. Most of the dog is out of the window sometimes
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 01:54 PM
Mar 2023

It's terrifying. We're not talking just the nose here. I always think, they don't like that dog much

bedazzled

(1,761 posts)
25. Maybe they haven't seen what we have
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 02:29 PM
Mar 2023

I know speed sniffing is fun for dogs. Jumping out and getting hit by another car not so much

phylny

(8,375 posts)
40. You are not alone.
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 06:19 PM
Mar 2023

Our dogs are either in a crate, or in a harness attached to a seatbelt in the car.

Biophilic

(3,641 posts)
8. I think this is a really dumb move by the Democrats in Florida.
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 12:42 PM
Mar 2023

Yes, I know dogs shouldn't stick their heads out of car windows, but right now doesn't seem a useful moment to antagonize voters. A lot of people will see this as Democrats, once again, trying to legislate personal lives. Yes, I know it's what the Republicans are doing big time in Florida, but if I were Republican I would use this to get people's minds off the numerous legislation they were putting through to legislate and outlaw personal choices. "Look what the Democrats are doing, they won't even let dogs have the joy of sticking their heads out of car windows. The Democrats are always into legislating personal lives." What can I say, it's what I would do if I were a Republican in Florida right now.

Biophilic

(3,641 posts)
14. Yes, there are a few of us.
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 01:02 PM
Mar 2023

Actually, there are more than a few, but there is a lot of 'my life is good and I don't want to know anything that will puncture my balloon.' I honestly don't know what it will take to get things moving, but it won't be someone like Christie. What a miserable mistake.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
20. What kind of people are going to be antagonized by this?
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 02:24 PM
Mar 2023

This isn't a partisan issue. Its an animal welfare issue and a traffic issue. Whoever is proposing this is spot on.

Biophilic

(3,641 posts)
24. I agree this shouldn' t be a partisan issue, but this is Florida right now.
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 02:28 PM
Mar 2023

The person offering the legislation is a Democrat per the article.

Geechie

(862 posts)
9. Maybe it's a neat bit of theater
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 12:45 PM
Mar 2023

designed to hold up a mirror to the always-legislating-private-lives Republicans.

Then again, probably not, based on what little I know about Rep. Book.

Johnny2X2X

(19,001 posts)
11. Police state
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 12:48 PM
Mar 2023

The “freedumb” loving red states are quickly becoming police states. Every day they seem to become more like North Korea.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
34. This is an animal welfare bill filed by a Democratic member.
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 03:49 PM
Mar 2023

As the article points out, may not be the kind of oppression the Republican dogs representing "the free state of Florida" are likely to support.

Chainfire

(17,515 posts)
13. My dog will bite someone over that!
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 01:01 PM
Mar 2023

Is is good for animal welfare? Certainly, but I wonder how many dogs come to harm poking their noses out of windows?
What disturbs me is seeing dogs wandering around in the back of pickup trucks, balancing on the side rails or on top of tool boxes.

How about we prioritize the stripping of school libraries, and attacks on sexuality, before we move on to dog vehicle safety.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
23. Talk to an emergency vet
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 02:27 PM
Mar 2023

and see how many animals end up with eye infections, crush injuries, or getting hit by a car because their head was hanging out the window.

Find out how many car accidents are caused by unrestrained animals in vehicles. A loose dog is also a projectile that can kill you if you are in a high speed MVA.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
38. I had a dog class teacher who was also an EMT.
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 04:46 PM
Mar 2023

She was at an accident scene where an unrestrained golden retriever was thrown into his owners head and neck. Both died. Gruesome, but it made the point.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
44. I saw a dog jump out of a moving car thru the window
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 07:29 PM
Mar 2023

they were directly in front of me. I managed to avoid hitting it, so did a string of other cars.The guy keep going didn't even notice at first his dog had jumped out till he heard cars honking and people yelling. Finally he stopped and grabbed up his crying scared dog, the dog's owner was crying and so we're the rest of us who saw it. The dog was injured with a broken leg but still alive, thank goodness. It could've been worse with car wrecks, people injuried and a dead dog. It's a sight I'll never forget though.

Whats a priority for some might not be for others but the morons running the state should be able to do more then one thing at a time!

 

friend of a friend

(367 posts)
15. I am in favor of this bill. I wish all states would do the same.
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 01:09 PM
Mar 2023

I adopted a three-legged dog that jumped out of a car and was hit.

 

friend of a friend

(367 posts)
30. Yes, thank you, he was a small dog and lived to a ripe old age.
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 02:57 PM
Mar 2023

We moved to North Carolina 22 years ago and have adopted or stolen 12 old or starving dogs. We never adopted any cats, but so far 4 adult cats have adopted us, the latest was a few months ago a female with 2 kittens.

hippywife

(22,767 posts)
17. I agree with this.
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 01:55 PM
Mar 2023

Pets can be thrown - very quickly and very forcefully- when a vehicle comes to a panic stop. And, let's face it, we've all had panic stops happen to us.

They should be protected in a moving vehicle every bit as much as a child should be.

Now, if they're in a belt or harness to prevent them from harm, and can still reach the window to stick their noses out, go for it!

Also agree with the cat declawing. It's just cruel. People need to learn to train their cats on a scratcher if they want to save their furniture.

dsc

(52,155 posts)
27. It is a good bill
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 02:46 PM
Mar 2023

I used a harness with my dog and he seemed to like it just fine. He was able to look out the window and fresh air came in via the vent. I honestly didn't trust my dog around an open window. But even if I did, I didn't trust other drivers.

ProfessorGAC

(64,955 posts)
29. My Dog Wears A Seatbelt
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 02:52 PM
Mar 2023

He is excited to put the harness on, too.
Then the belt slips through a loop (made of seatbelt material) on the harness. He can stand, sit, lay down. And, there's a bit of side to side freedom to move.
The most he could stick out the window is the tip of his nose. But, unless the top is down, that window is up.
I'd be perfectly fine with a low requiring safety restraints for pets in cars.

ProfessorGAC

(64,955 posts)
41. Shhhh!
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 06:24 PM
Mar 2023

He'll hear you! I always tell him he's an ugly boy & nobody likes him.
Of course, I'm rubbing his belly while I'm saying it.

kskiska

(27,045 posts)
33. We had a coonhound
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 03:42 PM
Mar 2023

who loved to stick her head out the sunroof of our jeep with her ears flapping in the wind.

EX500rider

(10,829 posts)
42. Part of the bill says no dogs riding on motorcycles either
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 06:37 PM
Mar 2023

That I don't like my dog rides with me all the time in a harness in the tank bag, harnessed in it in with goggles.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
43. Good!👍 Dogs should not have their heads sticking out of car windows
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 07:15 PM
Mar 2023

it's a safety issue. If people don't have the good sense to know better then apparently a law is needed.

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