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RandySF

(58,770 posts)
Mon Mar 20, 2023, 12:38 PM Mar 2023

"He has a battle rifle": Police feared Uvalde gunman's AR-15

UVALDE — Once they saw a torrent of bullets tear through a classroom wall and metal door, the first police officers in the hallway of Robb Elementary School concluded they were outgunned. And that they could die.

The gunman had an AR-15, a rifle design used by U.S. soldiers in every conflict since Vietnam. Its bullets flew toward the officers at three times the speed of sound and could have pierced their body armor like a hole punch through paper. They grazed two officers in the head, and the group retreated.

Uvalde Police Department Sgt. Daniel Coronado stepped outside, breathing heavily, and got on his radio to warn the others.

“I have a male subject with an AR,” Coronado said.

The dispatch crackled on the radio of another officer on the opposite side of the building.

“Fuck,” that officer said.

“AR,” another exclaimed, alerting others nearby.

Almost a year after Texas’ deadliest school shooting killed 19 children and two teachers, there is still confusion among investigators, law enforcement leaders and politicians over how nearly 400 law enforcement officers could have performed so poorly. People have blamed cowardice or poor leadership or a lack of sufficient training for why police waited more than an hour to breach the classroom and subdue an amateur 18-year-old adversary.




https://www.newsfromthestates.com/article/he-has-battle-rifle-police-feared-uvalde-gunmans-ar-15

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Walleye

(31,008 posts)
1. Never mind the technical definition of assault weapon
Mon Mar 20, 2023, 12:40 PM
Mar 2023

It’s like they said about pornography, you know it when you see it

Initech

(100,063 posts)
2. The problem isn't that we need more cops. Or locking doors. Or fewer windows. Or mental health.
Mon Mar 20, 2023, 12:44 PM
Mar 2023

Or whatever bullshit the NRA comes up with next. The problem is, and has always been, the fucking guns. We don't need AR-15s, get rid of them!

sanatanadharma

(3,699 posts)
3. It is a battle against battle weapons
Mon Mar 20, 2023, 01:35 PM
Mar 2023

And the battle is being won by the rattle-brains*.

* Apologists for the gun. Defenders of the status quo sangre.

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
4. Gunfucks who say they need an AR-15 to hunt
Mon Mar 20, 2023, 01:42 PM
Mar 2023

get laughed at by real hunters.

Gunfucks brag that they “refuse to live in fear”, but take military weaponry with them to get a sandwich or go grocery shopping. If that’s not living in fear, I don’t know what is.

Gunfucks are worthless human beings, and the world would be better off without them.

intheflow

(28,462 posts)
7. The asshats who wear their assault rifles into stores aren't acting out of fear.
Mon Mar 20, 2023, 04:13 PM
Mar 2023

They're acting out of intimidation. It's based in fear, but they aren't afraid if they have their gun but their primary focus is to intimidate others - potentially a lethal form of bullying.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
5. If one kid with an AR can terrorize an entire police department
Mon Mar 20, 2023, 02:01 PM
Mar 2023

Imagine if an entire police department each had an AR.

Maybe it's time for the cops and criminals to turn in their weapons.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
6. Police need to develop a military mindset for such situations
Mon Mar 20, 2023, 02:04 PM
Mar 2023

When kids are getting killed, casualties amongst the responding police officers shouldn't matter.

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