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jgo

(912 posts)
Tue Mar 21, 2023, 10:31 AM Mar 2023

Please add your thoughts - When will the Manhattan NY Trump trial begin?

Last edited Tue Apr 4, 2023, 05:51 PM - Edit history (1)

Assuming an indictment, when will the trial begin?

- By the end of 2023?
- By the end of 2024?
- By the end of 2025?
- After 2025?
- There will be a plea deal and the trial will not begin?
- The case will be tossed and the trial will not begin?

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update 4/4/2023 - Based on the Judge's setting the next status hearing for Dec. 2023,
a trial in 2023 is out, and a trial in 2024 seems highly unlikely.
So, a trial in 2025, a trial after 2025, a plea deal, or tossed/shut down, are still theoretical possibilities.

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Please add your thoughts - When will the Manhattan NY Trump trial begin? (Original Post) jgo Mar 2023 OP
Most 'experts' on MSNBC seem to be of the opinion that it will be a long time (not in 2023) before Celerity Mar 2023 #1
Two weeks. kacekwl Mar 2023 #2
Tossed. nt BlackSkimmer Mar 2023 #3
wouldnt it be a mind fuck if he pled guilty? Blues Heron Mar 2023 #4
Yes he might cop a plea to get off the hook. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #5
Maybe he could do an Alford plea. Ocelot II Mar 2023 #7
Isn't that the "no contest" defense? tinrobot Mar 2023 #12
They are very similar, and the result is functionally the same. Ocelot II Mar 2023 #13
Depending on the charges, that might be the smartest plea tinrobot Mar 2023 #14
We don't even know if there will be an indictment Ocelot II Mar 2023 #6
No intelligent person would venture a guess at this stage. Nt Fiendish Thingy Mar 2023 #8
The crystal ball is cloudy, as it always is. Ocelot II Mar 2023 #9
I wouldn't assume anything, it's all up in the air, wait and see Shanti Shanti Shanti Mar 2023 #10
I suspect he will be juggling multiple trials this year tinrobot Mar 2023 #11
Indictmas -- some day in the maybe future. ananda Mar 2023 #15
Time for more opinions jgo Apr 2023 #16

Celerity

(43,330 posts)
1. Most 'experts' on MSNBC seem to be of the opinion that it will be a long time (not in 2023) before
Tue Mar 21, 2023, 10:33 AM
Mar 2023

an actual trial starts.

Ocelot II

(115,681 posts)
7. Maybe he could do an Alford plea.
Tue Mar 21, 2023, 11:28 AM
Mar 2023

With an Alford plea the defendant maintains his innocence but admits that there is sufficient evidence to convince a jury that he's guilty. It has the same effect as a regular guilty plea but is sometimes used so the defendant can maintain his reputation or, as to sex crimes, avoid being placed on a sex offender list.

Ocelot II

(115,681 posts)
13. They are very similar, and the result is functionally the same.
Tue Mar 21, 2023, 11:47 AM
Mar 2023

A defendant who enters an Alford plea pleads guilty but claims to be innocent; with a no contest plea, the defendant accepts whatever punishment the court imposes but doesn’t admit guilt.

tinrobot

(10,895 posts)
14. Depending on the charges, that might be the smartest plea
Tue Mar 21, 2023, 12:26 PM
Mar 2023

If he's charged with just the low-level felony and nothing else, he probably wouldn't get jail time anyways. Easy way to put it behind him.

But then again, he rarely does the smart thing. We'll see.

Ocelot II

(115,681 posts)
6. We don't even know if there will be an indictment
Tue Mar 21, 2023, 10:44 AM
Mar 2023

or what charges it might include. The only thing that we can know is that there is a speedy trial rule in NY (and everywhere else). This rule requires the prosecution to establish its readiness for trial within six months after the indictment on a felony charge. However, consideration is given to pretrial motions, so it could be more than six months. It's complicated, see https://www.ils.ny.gov/files/30.30%20Manual%202020.pdf Because of this rule it is likely, but not certain, that a trial will occur within a year.

Ocelot II

(115,681 posts)
9. The crystal ball is cloudy, as it always is.
Tue Mar 21, 2023, 11:40 AM
Mar 2023

At this point we are all just along for the ride. The only thing that might influence the timing of a possible trial is the state's speedy trial rule, and even that is flexible. People make predictions based on wild guesses, ignorance, fog and vapor, and then get mad or disappointed when they don't actually happen; we need to just relax, get out the popcorn and watch.

tinrobot

(10,895 posts)
11. I suspect he will be juggling multiple trials this year
Tue Mar 21, 2023, 11:43 AM
Mar 2023

And, of course, he'll use that as an excuse to delay, delay, delay.

I'd say early-mid 2024.

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