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The right wing will do everything possible to destroy this country. But this is not the end of the American story.https://thebanter.substack.com/p/theres-a-way-to-survive-the-collapse
This week, Donald Trump may or may not be arrested and charged with crimes related to the hush money paid to porn star Stormy Daniels in the run-up to the 2016 presidential election. Don't get too excited about this. America can barely choke down the idea of holding the rich and powerful accountable for their unending litany of crimes much less treat them like actual criminals. Accordingly, I wouldnt expect a handcuffed perp-walk, and I do expect Trump to get out on bail immediately.
This, however, has not stopped Republicans from flying into spasms of rage at even the hint of Trump facing the consequences of his actions. They are promising all kinds of violence. And this is something were going to have to live with for a very long time. Like it or not, this is the future for America. Not the cruel fascism of a victorious right or the peaceful democracy of an ascendant left, but a violence-wracked country besieged by domestic terrorism for the next 20-30 years, at least, as the GOP gasps its last breath.
Protest or another insurrection?
Last week, news broke that the FBI, Secret Service, and the NYPD have been discussing security arrangements should Donald Trump be brought in for arraignment. This is the first time, to our knowledge, that a conversation like this has taken place so it would appear to be very real. For those of you who have not watched the last 22 seasons of Law & Order, arraignment is the part where you stand before a judge, hear the charges being brought against you, and youre asked to plead guilty or not guilty. There are a lot of questions to be answered concerning how a former presidents arrest would be handled like how much security is necessary to protect the DA, how much for Trump, and so on and so forth. Security is the main concern here because, to the surprise of no one, Trump immediately called on his cult to protect him with violence.
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Is Trump calling for a massive protest or another insurrection? Lets not kid ourselves, his ability to (potentially) incite violence is a card Trump has been playing over and over again as his legal woes have mounted. And so far, its been working. Or did you think it was just his wealth that has been insulating him all this time? Yes, law enforcement at every level has been extremely reluctant to go after a former president. But they also know there is a very real possibility of civil unrest and, worse, domestic terrorism in the wake of Trumps arrest. Frankly, if Trump had shut up and gone away, he probably would have lived out the rest of his life laughing at how much crime he had gotten away with. Just ask George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. But Trumps ego wouldnt let it go. He kept being loud and forced everyone to pay attention to him which meant law enforcement couldnt look the other way. God knows theyve been trying. Some harder than others. So now Trump is in a full-fledged panic and trying to summon his cult to protect him. Will they come? Its hard to say. Some of the louder right-wing voices are certainly agitating for violence:
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Lovie777
(12,232 posts)that leaves over 200 million who will beat you down.
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CrispyQ
(36,457 posts)When in reality, this is what America looks like:
Both maps are from the 2020 presidential election. The first is by county, so the entire county gets painted red. The second is by population. Look at all that blue, even in Florida! My right wing cousins absolutely hate the second map.
THIS IS THE MAP WE NEED TO USE.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)the first map encourages RWers to imagine would theirs (power!) but that they'd have to take and keep control of in a civil war.
Sky Jewels
(7,069 posts)You play fast and lose with your spelling, numbnuts.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)pointing out that a critical point in tRump's favor (in a possibly very tight case being made) from his January 6 call to insurrection could be that he included the word "peacefully" but that in this repeat call for people to come "take our nation back" he did not.
Rwiw, regarding: "America can barely choke down the idea of holding the rich and powerful accountable for their unending litany of crimes much less treat them like actual criminals. Accordingly, I wouldnt expect a handcuffed perp-walk, and I do expect Trump to get out on bail immediately."
Same here. Despicable, national shame that he is, he is an ex-president of the United States. I expect his treatment will pay proper respect to the office and our nation, to reflect standards and principles he and MAGAs are oblivious to. And these are minor crimes compared to, oh, treason with Russia or attempted coup d'etat, or terrorism against immigrants and their children, or deliberately spreading a deadly disease holocaust that's killed well over a million Americans.
GenXer47
(1,204 posts)Airplanes. Fucking airplanes.
This is what people conveniently forget, not just about Civil War but about the purpose of the 2nd amendment.
There will never be an overthrow of the U.S. government by force. It's a joke, and personally I can't wait to see the Proud Boys & Co. line up for a nice strafing run. Hell, we could beat 'em with crop dusters!
ProfessorGAC
(64,995 posts)...highly portable machine guns, missiles, GPS targeting, tanks, hand-held rocket launchers......
These guys are delusional if they think the military won't follow orders to quell a violent rebellion.