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babylonsister

(171,035 posts)
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 09:02 AM Mar 2023

Sen. John Cornyn Says Congress Has 'Gone About As Far As We Can Go' On Gun Legislation



Sen. John Cornyn Says Congress Has 'Gone About As Far As We Can Go' On Gun Legislation
In the wake of a Tennessee school shooting, the Texas Republican dismissed calls to ban assault-style weapons as “tired talking points.”
By Marita Vlachou
Mar 28, 2023, 11:25 AM EDT


Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), one of the key Republicans to negotiate a bipartisan gun safety package passed last summer, on Monday addressed calls for additional gun legislation in the wake of a school shooting in Tennessee, saying Congress has “gone about as far as we can go” on measures like background checks.

President Joe Biden pleaded for lawmakers to pass a ban on assault-style weapons and more curbs on firearms after three adults and three children were killed at The Covenant School in Nashville, but Cornyn described his appeals as “tired talking points.”

“I would say we’ve gone about as far as we can go — unless somebody identifies some area that we didn’t address,” Cornyn told reporters when asked about further legislation and background checks specifically.

During an appearance Tuesday on “CNN This Morning,” White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said it was “devastating” for the parents who lost their children, and Americans at large, to hear lawmakers state that the country had run out of options on gun safety measures.

“They lost their kids yesterday, and that’s what we’re saying?” Jean-Pierre asked. “We should not be saying there’s nothing else to do. We should be trying to figure out what else there can be to do.”


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Sen. John Cornyn Says Congress Has 'Gone About As Far As We Can Go' On Gun Legislation (Original Post) babylonsister Mar 2023 OP
But the same GOP has only begun controlling American Womens' reproductive healthcare decisions. Freethinker65 Mar 2023 #1
"And we're just getting started pulling library books off the shelves!" tanyev Mar 2023 #17
"We're not done with restricting your right to vote either!" durablend Mar 2023 #35
What he meant was, "about as far as we can go" without losing out justhanginon Mar 2023 #2
We dont have to have these do nothings- vote them out Blues Heron Mar 2023 #3
Then resign. eShirl Mar 2023 #4
We need to throw these fucking neanderthals out of office spanone Mar 2023 #5
"We" didn't vote these assholes in. We're trying. bullimiami Mar 2023 #14
Much easier said than done. A large chunk of voters are single issue gun voters. LonePirate Mar 2023 #26
Who funds the NRA? orthoclad Mar 2023 #6
Putin Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #16
Putin for one orthoclad Mar 2023 #18
Yes. The question to ask: WHO BENEFITS? Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #20
Heh. We don't "look" orthoclad Mar 2023 #23
Yep. As Steve Schmidt keeps saying, the US is in serious moral decay. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #25
We killed between orthoclad Mar 2023 #27
Same root cause: Greed, corruption, power. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #38
"I don't care how many kids get killed... WestMichRad Mar 2023 #7
John Cornyn, useless as always. (nt) Paladin Mar 2023 #8
Take away campaign donations and have publicly funded elections. Dustlawyer Mar 2023 #9
What the Hell 3auld6phart Mar 2023 #10
Seems to me Diamond_Dog Mar 2023 #11
Tried nothing all out of ideas bullimiami Mar 2023 #12
Your cult believes that.................... Lovie777 Mar 2023 #13
If Americans REALLY want something done about guns THEY NEED TO VOTE OUT REPUBLICANS. CousinIT Mar 2023 #15
It's not the votes, it's the money orthoclad Mar 2023 #22
Most of it goes to Republicans - they are the biggest recipients. Still... CousinIT Mar 2023 #34
Yes, the recipients orthoclad Mar 2023 #44
That huge propaganda machine is aimed at THOSE WHO CAN VOTE. Hortensis Mar 2023 #43
"We can't do any more" Torchlight Mar 2023 #19
translation: I won't do anything more until you give me more money cough cough donations. nt Javaman Mar 2023 #21
Not as far as we can go, but as far as we want to go. Guns over kids every time. nature-lover Mar 2023 #24
Why should he say any different? The majority of his voters either agree or don't give a shit. ParishPolitique Mar 2023 #28
Not seeing dead people and kids on tv every week? babylonsister Mar 2023 #30
Actually, a majority of people on BOTH SIDES agree with some common sense gun regulations Beaverhausen Mar 2023 #32
There is only one solution and that is not to re-elect people like Cornyn. walkingman Mar 2023 #29
Seriously, what is WRONG with these people? Beaverhausen Mar 2023 #31
It's called being a republican. Ray Bruns Mar 2023 #33
NO, commonsense gun laws can be passed and they do help. republianmushroom Mar 2023 #36
Exactly. Caliman73 Mar 2023 #39
Cornyn's A Cornhole, A Horses Patootie, He Opens His Mouth...There's Nothing But Doody... MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #37
Get rid of few Republicans and then let's talk LeftInTX Mar 2023 #40
A criminal failure of imagination and political will. Martin68 Mar 2023 #41
these republicans should be personally sued by every family who loses a loved one to guns IcyPeas Mar 2023 #42

justhanginon

(3,289 posts)
2. What he meant was, "about as far as we can go" without losing out
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 09:09 AM
Mar 2023

on the campaign contributions from the despicable but loaded with the congress buying off money, money, money gun lobby.

LonePirate

(13,408 posts)
26. Much easier said than done. A large chunk of voters are single issue gun voters.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 10:04 AM
Mar 2023

They vote Republican and demand 100% obedience on guns. They do not relent and Republicans bend the knee to those voters.

Short of replicating the 60 Senate seats we held briefly in 2009 or finding some sort combination of filibuster repeal (which would be subject to an overturn under Republican control), we are between a rock and a hard place on this issue. Voters will need to continue to hammer their elected representatives on the subject, especially the majority of us in urban and suburban districts.

orthoclad

(2,910 posts)
18. Putin for one
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 09:47 AM
Mar 2023

but he's not the only one.

The rich are an international phenomenon. It's happening in Hungary, India, was Brazil, starting in Canada. They use similar means to scare people, stir up nationalism, and yield power to a clique. They meet in Davos yearly.

I think the NRA gets a lot of funding from the Koch empire. Arms manufacturers. Large businesses like Cabela's. But we're in the age of dark money. Some enterprising journalist needs to research this in depth. If they already have, it needs to be shouted from the rooftops.

Capitalism (here and in Russia) gains from fear.

Irish_Dem

(46,508 posts)
20. Yes. The question to ask: WHO BENEFITS?
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 09:50 AM
Mar 2023

Who benefits from creating a fearful and docile populace?
Who benefits from making the US look foolish, weak and murderous?

orthoclad

(2,910 posts)
27. We killed between
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 10:22 AM
Mar 2023

400k and a million Iraqis -- for nothing. Nonexistent WMDs.

Over three million people died in SE Asia from the Vietnam war. They're still having birth defects from the toxins we soaked them in. Nonexistent Tonkin Gulf attack. Now US corporations trade with the communist country we fought (and died) so hard to prevent.

Afghanistan had a secular government with full women's rights until we armed the mullahs.

Rinse and repeat.

Much of the world does not take the US seriously when we talk about democracy and rights.

Granted, this is different from the gun-humper issue. But these were instances of collective, regulated gun usage. Used in our collective name. There may be a connection.

Irish_Dem

(46,508 posts)
38. Same root cause: Greed, corruption, power.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 01:32 PM
Mar 2023

Yep the US dropped depleted uranium bombs on Bagdad, a city with over 50% women and children.
They will be dealing with toxins for generations.

Sounds like what Putin is doing in Ukraine doesn't it?

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
9. Take away campaign donations and have publicly funded elections.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 09:20 AM
Mar 2023

Watch what happens after that! No more shadow government of big business.

3auld6phart

(1,039 posts)
10. What the Hell
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 09:23 AM
Mar 2023

You feuckin’ asshole bastard. That little post turtle chicken shit Bush. destroyed FDRs firearms act of 1930 The act that both parties Dems and republicans agreed to. Unanimously 100%. How
Much Is the NRA paying you pig fucker?? walk the streets of any state or American city. You have to wonder if you will live to the end of the day. Jeez get a life asshole.

Diamond_Dog

(31,911 posts)
11. Seems to me
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 09:27 AM
Mar 2023

That there’s PLENTY of room to negotiate, being that we now have practically unfettered gun ownership in all red states.

Lovie777

(12,218 posts)
13. Your cult believes that....................
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 09:29 AM
Mar 2023

the majority of Americans do not. Step aside so the caring folks can "fix" it.

CousinIT

(9,224 posts)
15. If Americans REALLY want something done about guns THEY NEED TO VOTE OUT REPUBLICANS.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 09:33 AM
Mar 2023

Period.
Full stop.

STOP FUCKING VOTING FOR THOSE PEOPLE!

Ugh.

orthoclad

(2,910 posts)
22. It's not the votes, it's the money
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 09:56 AM
Mar 2023

and power.

There's a huge propaganda machine worth many billions that's been running full-tilt since Reagan days. There's a huge dark-money machine dedicated to putting bad people in positions of power. The Supreme Court is an example. You know, the court that gave us Citizens United, and led Jimmy Carter to say in 2015 that the US is an oligarchy.

CousinIT

(9,224 posts)
34. Most of it goes to Republicans - they are the biggest recipients. Still...
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 12:16 PM
Mar 2023

...if they are not voted into office, they'd have no power. Supreme Court is not elected. I'm referring to ELECTED officials, just to clarify.

orthoclad

(2,910 posts)
44. Yes, the recipients
Thu Mar 30, 2023, 09:25 AM
Mar 2023

are the oiligarch fanbois like Rafael Cruz, and a few notable exceptions like Manchin.

Many years ago, the Shoe cartoon had his drunken Senator stereotype talking to a children's classroom. He asks "What is the great principle of American democracy?" A kid answers "Money talks"." The Sen says "no, no, no, the OTHER one".

This was decades before Citizens United.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
43. That huge propaganda machine is aimed at THOSE WHO CAN VOTE.
Thu Mar 30, 2023, 08:54 AM
Mar 2023

24/7/365. Stoking delusion to encourage people to vote wrong, but most of those TRILLIONS are spent to keep 230 million Americans from believing their vote matters.

And for a little foot-on-the-ground check: who's president?

Torchlight

(3,293 posts)
19. "We can't do any more"
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 09:49 AM
Mar 2023

"nothing will work!" "Too soon to talk about it!" "This makes us look bad!!!"

To me, these are all implicit table-tells that the speaker lacks good faith and/or honest intentions.

ParishPolitique

(24 posts)
28. Why should he say any different? The majority of his voters either agree or don't give a shit.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 10:27 AM
Mar 2023

Plus plenty of NRA money...what incentive has he otherwise?

Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
32. Actually, a majority of people on BOTH SIDES agree with some common sense gun regulations
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 11:24 AM
Mar 2023
https://apnews.com/article/gun-violence-covid-health-chicago-c912ecc5619e925c5ea7447d36808715

AP-NORC poll: Most in US say they want stricter gun laws


The poll shows bipartisan majorities of Americans support a nationwide background check policy for all gun sales, a law preventing mentally ill people from purchasing guns, allowing courts to temporarily prevent people who are considered a danger to themselves or others from purchasing a gun, making 21 the minimum age to buy a gun nationwide and banning those who have been convicted of domestic violence from purchasing a gun.

Caliman73

(11,725 posts)
39. Exactly.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 01:39 PM
Mar 2023

Even laws which do not ban specific types of firearms can have an immediate effect.

1. Increase and enhance "Red Flag" laws. No firearms for people with convictions or under charges of Domestic Violence and Animal Cruelty. That would take about 40% to 60% of "gun offenders" out of the equation.

2. Increase funding for NICS program and make it MANDATORY for states to get their databases up to date. Make it mandatory for ANY and ALL gun sales, including private transfer to conduct a NICS check with sever penalties for people selling firearms to people who do not pass a background check.

These two laws would have an immediate effect and they are not about banning any firearms.

A third thing that can be done is to have a "Buy back" program with significant incentives for people to sell their firearms back and get guns off the street. Make it worth people's while.

A fourth thing, which is not popular with firearms owners, but is still worthwhile, is to require liability insurance. Also, prohibit the NRA from offering Insurance. They should not be able to make money off more aspects of gun ownership. (I don't think that is actually feasible, but had to get it in there).

MayReasonRule

(1,460 posts)
37. Cornyn's A Cornhole, A Horses Patootie, He Opens His Mouth...There's Nothing But Doody...
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 01:26 PM
Mar 2023

Butt nuggets of wisdom define his shit-show, a dark cloud of vapors where-ever he goes!!
When his ass-cheeks, flap as he speaks...
All of reason know...

He's feeding his flock the malevolent hate that defines them where 'ere... they go...

IcyPeas

(21,841 posts)
42. these republicans should be personally sued by every family who loses a loved one to guns
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 03:27 PM
Mar 2023

they won't do a friggin thing.

they are the cause of this slaughter. sue them.

(I don't know how or if it's possible... I just know that it personally doesn't affect them so they continue to do nothing).

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