Ron DeSantis' plan to take control of Disney's land backfired spectacularly

[Joe Cool]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ron-desantis-plan-control-disneys-025925431.html

Gov. Ron DeSantis gained control of Walt Disney World's oversight district board in February.

The move was an attempt to strip the company's self-governing power that it has enjoyed for decades.

But a previously signed agreement may have rendered the new governing board powerless.

Gov. Ron DeSantis' move to take over Walt Disney World's governing board in Florida may have backfired due to a prior obscure agreement that new governor-appointed board members say stripped them of their power.

[Lovie777]

1. Hopefully that move have saved some of the entertainment shows I enjoy as well.......

besides a great many jobs for the sane.

[Phoenix61]

5. The board had nothing to do with any of that.

It’s strictly about controlling the land and the services, fire, water etc, that entails.

[GatorDem82]

12. I think

Actually, the board would have most certainly used it's position and power to pressure Disney into changing content, etc, at the risk of having anything and everything it wanted in relation to the land use, services and such withheld unless Disney complied. I think that was the whole point of Deathsantis putting in his cronies, to apply pressure that way to get what he wants. Glad to see the Mouse gave him the royal finger.

[hunter]

16. As it should be. Just do the job competently and quietly.

It's the Republicans who want to turn everything, even mundane things like keeping community infrastructure in good repair, into a freak show and circus from hell.

[lapfog_1]

2. one might even say that Disney was fully "awake" to the threat from Ron "album tabernus" DeSantis

or Ron "botas blancas" DeSantis.

[Farmer-Rick]

30. Ron "botas blancas" DeSantis

Love it

[Quanto Magnus]

42. He's clearly ready

to wade through his own shit in this pic....

[Cha]

47. Ty.. I want to save this little moRon's ugly pic.

Where the hell did he find those boots & WTH was he thinking by wearing them?!!

[SouthernDem4ever]

3. I still don't understand

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What about this agreement stops the new board from amending to their advantage? Love his white go-go boots.

[Phoenix61]

7. Because it's a contract between the board and Disney.

They are free to try ask Disney to change the contract but that isn’t going to happen. It’s the same reason DeStupid couldn’t dissolve the board without the state assuming Disney’s debt, because that’s what the original contract stated.
Agreement may be a better word but either way it’s legally binding.

[Marius25]

17. Disney signed an agreement with the previous board

that is binding for decades unless Disney itself agrees to change it. The new board doesn't have the power to change it without Disney's permission.

Disney included a complicated common law provision in the agreement that prevents the new board from having any control over Disney until 21 years after the last surviving descendant of King Charles III passes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_against_perpetuities#:~:text=The%20rule%20against%20perpetuities%20is,time%20the%20instrument%20was%20written.

[SouthernDem4ever]

25. This is all assuming that Florida Legislature gives a crap about legal contracts

Repugs don't seem to care about law or precedent. I can see them nullifying it, unless they see it would be more to their benefit to leave it alone.

[Farmer-Rick]

33. Yeah, a law nullifying Disney's contract could pass in Florida's legislature

But the Florida Supreme Court may stop the legislation as an ex post facto law.

Most all ex post facto laws are expressly forbidden by the United States Constitution in Article 1, Section 9, Clause 3 (with respect to federal laws) and Article 1, Section 10 (with respect to state laws).

So Disney would probably win in the Supreme Court, state and even federal.

[Old Crank]

34. I believe that provision is for

The use of any Disney "fanciful characters". Not the other agreements.
That would mean the board can't depict any Disney character on, letterhead, official documents or announcements.

[Marius25]

35. From what I've read, it's such a powerful provision that it prevents the board

from doing anything with the Reedy Creek district except maintaining roads and infrastructure. They can't actually change anything tied to Disney itself in the parks.

[Volaris]

44. And this is why you don't fuck with the mouse lol.

I'd be willing to bet this is just the warning shot. Disney will make sure that President Puddin, never happens.

[lark]

4. Mouse - 1, Death Sentence - 0

Hope this is true!!!

[MayReasonRule]

6. My Favorite Part... LOL

This provision is valid until:

“...21 years after the death of the last survivor of the descendants of King Charles III, king of England,”

according to the document.

[Phoenix61]

9. There has to be a really great reason that's in there and

I’d love to know what it is.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

10. Rule against perpetuity.

Rule against perpetuities

The rule against perpetuities is a legal rule in the common law that prevents people from using legal instruments to exert control over the ownership of private property for a time long beyond the lives of people living at the time the instrument was written.

Rule is contract time max. is that of persons living, plus 21 years.

This clause found a loophole…not sure a court would uphold this…seems to not be in the spirit of the law.

[Phoenix61]

13. Looks like they have already considered that.

7. TERM; ASSIGNMENT BY WDPR. 7.1. Term. This Declaration shall be deemed effective as of the Effective Date and continue to be effective in perpetuity unless all or certain portions of the provisions of this Declaration are expressly terminated as provided elsewhere herein; provided, however, that if the perpetual term of this Declaration is deemed to violate the "Rule Against Perpetuities," or any similar law or rule, this Declaration shall continue in effect until twenty one (21) years after the death of the last survivor of the descendants of King Charles III, King of England living as of the date of this Declaration. Notwithstanding the foregoing or anything to the contrary herein, this Declaration will terminate as of the date that none of WDPR or any of its Affiliates (or their respective successor entities) owns any real property within ten (10) miles of the RCID Properties.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

15. The King and ancestors clause...not sure a Judge would give that a pass as complying.

[Phoenix61]

19. I think this last sentence is the work around

“ Notwithstanding the foregoing or anything to the contrary herein, this Declaration will terminate as of the date that none of WDPR or any of its Affiliates (or their respective successor entities) owns any real property within ten (10) miles of the RCID Properties.”

[Mariana]

22. King Charles III has some very young descendants

who were living at the time the instrument was written.

[MayReasonRule]

14. States Have Varying Laws With Respect To "Rules Against Perpetuity"... This Sidesteps Those...

"Under the terms of the agreement, the district is prohibited from using the name “Disney” or any symbols associated with the theme park resort without the company’s permission, nor can it use the likeness of Mickey Mouse, other Disney characters or other intellectual property in any manner. The company can sue for damages for any violations, and the agreement is in effect until perpetuity, according to the declaration."

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/30/disney-ron-desantis-royal-lives-clause.html

This...

“Declaration shall continue in effect until 21 years after the death of the last survivor of the descendants of King Charles III, King of England, living as of the date of this declaration,”

the document said. This kind of clause is most often used in the UK, typically when it comes to trusts, and provides a buffer against perpetuities.

“So, as long as one of those grandchildren makes it 80, this clause would be there for 100 years,”

explained Robert Lord, senior advisor of tax policy at progressive group Patriotic Millionaires.

"In a statement, Disney said all agreements were above board and took place in public."

“All agreements signed between Disney and the District were appropriate, and were discussed and approved in open, noticed public forums in compliance with Florida’s Government in the Sunshine law,” the statement said.

ROFLMAO



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/30/disney-ron-desantis-florida-dont-say-gay

https://www.indiewire.com/2023/03/disney-world-ron-desantis-royal-lives-clause-1234824230/

https://wdwnt.com/2023/03/declaration-of-restrictive-covenants-in-effect-until-21-years-after-the-death-of-the-last-surviving-descendant-of-king-charles-iii/

[Historic NY]

28. After all it is the 'Magic Kingdom' with Princess and Princes.

also the villains always lose.

[swimboy]

18. To avoid a tripwire anti-perpetuity law

“[ . . . ] in setting the expiration terms of the agreement, Disney invoked an obscure property law known as Rule Against Perpetuities, setting the date for "twenty one (21) years after the death of the last survivor of the descendants of King Charles IIII, King of England living as of the date of this Declaration."

[Phoenix61]

11. I should have read the article. I didn't realize it was

different from another one I had read about this. DeStupid is delusional if he thinks the board had anything to do with the entertainment side of Disney.

[MayReasonRule]

20. DeSantis Is A Delusional Y'all Qaeda Nat-C Republican Fascist Criminal

Defacto don't matter dejeure's "The Real Jake" a.k.a. "facts in evidence" don't matter "presumptive optics" are everything.

[Pacifist Patriot]

43. Loved that myself!

[NickB79]

8. Disney should make him their next villain

A cruel, tiny ant who calls himself Dis Ant Is Da Boss, desperate to show the world he's a big man, who wears white boots and dreams of ruling the world.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

23. I like it...next Disney cartoon blockbuster... Revenge of the Sunshine Fascist

[Ligyron]

24. That would be hilarious!

Genius idea!

[onethatcares]

32. one change to your post

"a cruel tiny ant who calls himself "Pis Ant" is Da Boss"

No need to thank me............

[JanLip]

39. Puss in white boots

😁

[area51]

21. Checkmate, DeBoots.

[lame54]

26. Watch the potholes build up - enough to fill The Albert Hall

[RedSpartan]

27. LOL. I haven't heard of the Rule Against Perpetuities since law school

Hilarious

[Historic NY]

29. Guniness Brewery has a 9000 yrs lease for 45 pounds a yr.

Arthur Guinness, founder of Guinness, signed a 9,000 year lease at the St. James’s Gate Brewery in Dublin for £45 per year back in 1759

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

38. Damn!

Up til about 1900 they were probably thinking that was a good deal, now it's like a check sent off to the nephew for his birthday. In 50 more years it'll be pocket change unless GB decides to love the Euro once more.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

31. This makes me smile

Link to tweet

[Caliman73]

36. Spectacle...

DeSantis is likely not doing any of this for actual policy effects. He doesn't really seem to care about actual policies. He is doing it for the spectacle of "looking tough". He wants to run for president under the auspices of "I'm the one who actually gets things done" to try to differentiate himself from Trump. Now, scratch the surface and you see that most of what he has proposed has been denied in court. He is pretty stupid policy wise, but again, not about policy... about image. When you ask the "base" what do they like about DeSantis, they will typically say, "he's fighting against the woke mob". When you ask them what he has actually accomplished, they can't tell you. They don't know and likely don't care. Same concept as when they said, "Trump keeps his promises" but couldn't tell you ANY policy that Trump actually instituted that aligned with any campaign promise.

DeSantis, in my opinion, will eventually decide not to run or he will lose the primary. He isn't really as adept a politician as people think. He just has an easily fooled base and a relatively docile and dumb population in Florida (no offense to any Florida Democrats), that put up with him.

It is MUCH harder to be a Democratic politician because while we can still "fanboy" at times, we actually expect our people to do what they say they will. We remember what our representatives said and we hold them accountable. Spectacle is not good enough for us. We want actual policy that will make our lives better.

[Zorro]

37. If you come for the mouse

you better not miss.

[Volaris]

46. Yep, the mouse don't play. Mickey is all about Find Out lol...

[FSogol]

40. His run for the Presidency backfired spectacularly also. Everyone just hasn't realized it yet.

[Hekate]

41. Speechless due to laughter...

[DoBotherMe]

48. Me too

[Upthevibe]

45. Kick. N/T

[Skittles]

49. he is constantly out-maneuvered

that's because he doesn't plan, he PERFORMS, and strictly for the disgusting MAGAt cult

he comes off as a what he is, a bully, a serious ASS CLOWN, to anyone with critical thinking skills

[The Jungle 1]

50. Ron was outsmarted by a mouse.

Sad so sad.