They NEVER Learn: Tammy Baldwin Responds To Condescending GOP Senator - HuffPo

[WillyT]

Tammy Baldwin To Ron Johnson: 'I'm Quite Confident' I Understand The Federal Budget
Amanda Terkel - HuffPo
Posted: 11/09/2012 2:42 pm EST

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WASHINGTON -- Rep. Tammy Baldwin (D), Wisconsin's new senator-elect, is confident that she will be able to understand the federal budget without the assistance of Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.).

In an Associated Press interview on Wednesday, Johnson said he hoped he would be able to work with Baldwin in the Senate -- as soon as he explained the "facts" of the budget to her.

"Hopefully I can sit down and lay out for her my best understanding of the federal budget because they're simply the facts," he said. "Hopefully she'll agree with what the facts are and work toward common sense solutions."

"I was a double major in college in mathematics and political science, and I served for six years on the House Budget Committee in my first six years in the House," Baldwin responded in an interview with The Huffington Post on Friday.

"And I am very confident that when proposals come before the U.S. Senate, I will be able to evaluate them as to how they benefit or harm middle-class Wisconsinites. A yardstick of 'does it create jobs,' 'does it lower the deficit' and 'does it help grow the middle class' is an important one. I'm quite confident that I have those abilities," she added.

Baldwin has served in Congress since 1999; Johnson took office in 2011.

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More: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/09/tammy-baldwin-ron-johnson-federal-budget_n_2102760.html

[seabeyond]

1. wow wow wow... i love all these uppity women. LOVE them. nt

[tavalon]

88. Damn straight

It is way past time to be uppity.

[seabeyond]

97. you know. that is just gonna be it cause i am telling you. i have learned

in the last year, just how much i am not suppose to be, really stfu wimminz. and the more i speak out and not give a shit, the more uppity i embrace. i am loving hearing it from our old, our young and every woman in between. at a certain point we cannot all be a b.....

ok maybe. but the guys can go to russia and asia if need be, lol.

[CrispyQ]

101. Uppity & sharp tongued!

[seabeyond]

103. yup. i have learned from du, minimal words, no emotion and still... all the adjectives are hurled

at me. there is no way i can speak up and out without being one of those unfeminine uppity women. so fuck it.

the more women with a voice, loud and clear, alone with karen hughes, repug, saying tired of the damn neanderthel mentality. keep your fuckin mouth shut on rape unless it is to say what a horrible crime it is.

no more tippy toeing, trying to coddle men in our speech to not ruffle their feathers. if it opposes their view, we have stepped over the line.

so fuck it

uppity and sharped tongue, you know b..... . as one duer said, it is not a sexist term becuase she does not have to be one.

you really think the men did not call this woman exactly that?

speak up, and regardless, that will be the name.

[tavalon]

108. Yeah, I embrace my inner b......

and woe to the one who chooses to test me.

[blue_heron]

2. you go girl!

awesome comeback.

what an arrogant chauvanistic a$$.

[freshwest]

79. +1

[spanone]

3. p.s. go fuck yourself mr johnson

[Stuart G]

18. correct, mr johnson can go to hell..

[JBoy]

62. Actually should be easy for a guy named "Mr Johnson"

[The Wielding Truth]

4. Touché! Smart and quick.

[edhopper]

5. Ron Johnson

is a worthless peace of shit who bought his seat with his Daddy in law's money.
Tammy needs to teach him the facts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Johnson_%28Wisconsin_politician%29

[bhikkhu]

85. ...and he studied for an MBA, but never finished his degree

and the went on to become one of those teabaggers who opposed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act at the worst time of the recession, preferring to "let the markets correct themselves". Opposes the ACA, believes global warming is a big hoax, etc, etc.
He's a complete asshat with nothing to teach anyone!

[JoePhilly]

6. She should have said .... "And I doubt he has the math skills to count his own balls."

Or would that be over the top???

[Scuba]

13. It's true. RoJo can't find his ass with both hands.

[JoePhilly]

27. And unless you count his mouth (which you should), he only has one ass.

[arthritisR_US]

7. What a condescending jerk he is!

[dballance]

8. Ron Johnson has penis issues in my opinion /eom

[gollygee]

9. That's what they call "mansplaining" n/t

[drmeow]

48. +1

[Mc Mike]

10. Thanks, Sen. Baldwin.

Nit wit repugs usually need straightened out, but she didn't even clock in yet. The pro-bono work on behalf of the nation is much appreciated.

[babydollhead]

59. r u a pittsburgher?

[Mc Mike]

63. Yep. Why?

I could understand your question if I called Johnson a jag-off, but I don't understand how it's germaine or apropos here.

[RomneyLies]

11. Johnsons is a condescending asshole. nt

[frogmarch]

12. He doesn't

want her to worry her pretty little head over man stuff like the federal budget.

[Coyotl]

81. Too bad a woman has to wait four years to unseat him.

Two years would be better.

[Scuba]

14. Nicely done, Tammy. THAT'S why I voted for you!!!!!!!!

[ProfessionalLeftist]

15. So RJ is gonna "mansplain" the budget to a woman who has a decade ...

...more experience than him?

Wow. That's some arrogance right there.

[Patiod]

16. I find this true of a lot of conservatives

The mindset seems to be "you'll understand it if I just explain the FACTS one more time" -- the "facts" being whatever shit they've "made up as a Republican to make themselves feel better" to paraphrase Megan Kelly

[xfundy]

64. Yes, they'll explain it --

-- only LOUDER the second time, as though they're talking to someone who speaks another language, or an idiot (same thing to that bunch).

I once had an asshole boss that did that. He finally got FIRED.

[cui bono]

17. To me this is the most telling line:

"Hopefully I can sit down and lay out for her my best understanding of the federal budget because they're simply the facts," he said. "Hopefully she'll agree with what the facts are and work toward common sense solutions."

He hopes she "agrees" with the facts? Sounds to me like he wants to brainwash her with RW propaganda. LIke having a republican tell me to watch Faux News for the facts and that they hoped I would agree with the facts.

I think this is as much of a partisan thing as a sexist thing.

[WillyT]

19. Yep... Caught That Too...

[lumpy]

28. Stupid is as stupid does. 'Stupid' tries to influence 'intelligent'.

n

[TahitiNut]

42. Ron Johnson: "I report. She decides." (The Faux News Syndrome)

[bluesbassman]

55. Did he really say "it's my way or the highway"? I think he did.

Uh, sorry bud, here's the facts: YOU ARE THE MINORITY PARTY IN THE SENATE! We clear on that?

[Texin]

20. These rethug guys can't get out of their own way

What a bunch or arrogant, condescending bullshit pushers these shits are. Three days out of getting their asses shredded and handed back to these fuckers, they continue to perpetuate their delusional meme that women need an interpretor to understand basic facts. Keep going, you douches. Keep it up and there won't be a single, white male left in representative government in the United States.

[PA Democrat]

21. Ha ha. I just love seeing a condescending jerk put in his place.

[erpowers]

22. Think She Can Handle It

I think Tammy Baldwin can handle working on the budget. However, I do not think Johnson was trying to be condescending. He was just stupid. It seems to me that he was not trying to say that she was not competent enough to under the budget, he just wanted her to see his facts and agree with him.

[Poiuyt]

68. They're not mutually exclusive

Johnson can be both condescending AND stupid. In his case, it's not hard to do.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

23. Smackdown!

[thelordofhell]

24. The fact is.....Ron Johnson is an asshole

[Hutzpa]

25. He is going to be in for a huge surprise

that's for sure.

[sadbear]

26. So Johnson's decided to put together his own sexist portfolio.

And he's got 4 years to fill it up, too.

[SCVDem]

29. My Dear Mr. Johnson

If you can fit it into your busy schedule, would you please fornicate thyself!

Thank you.



See, we can be civil.

[ReRe]

46. Exactly!

It's nice to be nice

[pansypoo53219]

78. no pleasure for them.

may his dick die.

[DinahMoeHum]

30. BOOM! goes the dynamite.

[zonkers]

31. Boo-yah!!

[jtuck004]

32. Facts. Maybe he could put them in a binder and mail them to her. n/t

[hifiguy]

33. Way to punk that asshat, Sen.-Elect Baldwin.

Jeebus, the nerve of these klowns. She is gonna eat his lunch on a daily basis.

[distantearlywarning]

34. Mansplaining already on day two of the Republican "shellacking"

Obviously Tuesday's lesson hasn't sunk in yet: this is not 1950 and American women are not going to be condescended to and pushed around by old men. Period. Either find a way to get to 2012 or be pushed out of public discourse permanently.

[Ednahilda]

35. I have every confidence that Tammy Baldwin

will agree with the facts of the federal budget. The unanswered question is whether Ron Johnson's facts are, well, really facts.

Probably not.

[txdemsftw]

36. Oh hai Guyz...

another white asshole who thinks he's smarter than a liberal white woman!!

Surprise??

What a douche.

[unionthug777]

37. tammy !!!!

that is MY senator !!!! wooohooo tell ron to go back under that rock he slithered from.

[Stargazer09]

38. Damn

Some men really do think that women are stupid, don't they?

Guess what, Mr. Johnson. A human brain does not require a penis to function. It sounds like Ms. Baldwin is MORE THAN CAPABLE of understanding the federal budget without you. In fact, it sounds like she can teach you a thing or two, if you can set aside your misogyny long enough to listen.

[xfundy]

65. "A brain does not require a penis to function."

Nor does a vagina! Or so I've heard.

Hee hee!

[lonestarnot]

73. +

[Stargazer09]

75. Very true.

[dbackjon]

39. I still can't believe that asshat beat Russ

Great response by Sen Baldwin!

[WillyT]

45. Great Point !!!

[Le Taz Hot]

92. Wait.

HE beat Russ Feingold????? Holy shit! Let's hope Russ runs again in 2016 (is that when he's up?).

[tclambert]

40. A Republican who claims to know facts? Now that's funny.

[obamanut2012]

41. OMG

[WCGreen]

43. what a fucking dork...

[april]

44. go kick his ass Tammy!

[SoapBox]

47. Johnson = just another Puke asshat.

[usaf-vet]

49. Tammy just beat the electoral crap out of a former WI Gov.

she will just as quickly dispatch this arrogant moronic ass-hat.

[Jack Rabbit]

50. "Common sense solutions," Senator Johnson?

I hope these are better than the "common sense solutions" Mrs. Palin keeps harping about.

[Lucinda]

51. Wisconsin traded Russ for this guy?

Speechless.

[LTR]

58. Not my fault!

I thought RoJo was a load from the get-go. He came in with the Walker Wave, and Wisconsin's been suffering these useless asswipes ever since.

I just hope all those AM radio Republicans in my state realized what a mistake they made dumping the great Russ Feingold, who busted his ass for Wisconsin, for this do-nothing dipshit. In four years, we throw his ass out!

[noiretextatique]

52. what a freaking idiot...he should be embarassed

but if he had a hint of a clue, he wouldn't have opened his condescending mouth. what an asshole.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

53. Don't mess with this one!

[calimary]

54. Hah! That was patronizing. What an ass he is. Well, Wisconsin, at least you have one

good Senator now (or you will when she takes office, that is).

I think we may well see more of this. We need to push back. We need to assert ourselves. For all you closed-minded, Pox Noise-sucking, willfully-ignorant deniers out there, NOW HEAR THIS:

Women will NOT go back. We're here and we insist on total unquestioned sovereignty over our bodies.

Blacks are HERE. And they are every bit your equal. As a matter of fact one African-American in particular showed your own best and brightest who's boss, not once but TWICE. GET OVER IT.

Latinos deserve RESPECT. They actually ARE the American Dream if you really wanna know. Coming from elsewhere to this wonderful country of hope and endless possibilities, and struggling and working their fingers raw and their muscles screaming. They earn it the hard way, and every last one of them is his or her own living breathing Horatio Alger story. GET USED TO IT.

You look down your nose at these people at your peril. You regard them as less than you and you show YOURSELVES to be the lesser ones. You scoff and smirk and patronize them at your own folly.

bill o'reilly has it all wrong. The "traditional" America is NOT gone. It's been rejuvenated. The old clothes just grew filthy, moldering with bacteria and stench. Besides, most of us have long since outgrown them. And they've had to be replaced. The American tradition is evolving all the time, as any basically healthy living organism does. We as a society have been creating new and timely, more relevant and even sacred traditions. Face it. Yes. Evolution IS worth taking seriously. This country is its living proof if you ask me.

And for the kkkarl roves of the world, who once described a new reality his side was creating that the rest of us would be left to study, while they act and then act again? Well, I've got news for him! There really IS a new reality being created. We're ALL living in it, whether we choose to accept or believe it. It just cut you off at the knees on Tuesday evening. And WE created it. WE BUILT IT. Everyone around you has been building it. Your reality is what's dying. Hell, it never really lived except in your own selfish greed-driven imagination, and then given a propaganda machine in the limbaughs and Pox Noises of your world to document your alleged reality and make it seem factual.

The Obama world is what's real. The crowds at his rallies are what's the real America. EVERY TIME, I looked and saw the rainbow. EVERY TIME, I scanned the crowd behind him or in front of him or on line waiting to shake his hand. And there was a rainbow. Every size and shape of people, every color of people, every age and gender of people. It was living, physical, actual proof of what kind of President we have with Barack Obama - the visual evidence is there for all to see - he's the President of EVERYBODY. Just as you could see, watching the GOP's CONvention and wrongney crowds, it was apparent that mitt would be the president mainly of those who looked more or less like he did. Monochromatic, stiff, cold, and from another era.

It will be interesting to see whether enough of the other side begins to wake up, and come around to what IS, as opposed to "the numbers you have as a republi-CON to make you feel better," as your own megyn kelly would opine.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

71. I think that this post of yours is most definitely good enough for a stand-alone thread.

You have written something truly valuable and good.

Thank you, my dear calimary!

[WillyT]

72. Agreed !!!

[barbtries]

100. this should be it's own thread

and righties should read it with an open mind. is there a way to open all those closed minds?

[libdem4life]

107. Doubt it, but Obama got it right...go out and field the New America...the new voters...our future

...the Rainbow. The Old Goats will probably have to phase out by chronological attrition ... or, put differently, in coffins.

[Delmette]

56. I would have said, Thank you

Then recorded his explaination of how the budget works and posted it on You Tube.

[chknltl]

57. Senator R.J. has Optical Rectitus.

(Optical Rectitus: Shity outlook on life. Comes from watching too much fox news).

[SomethingFishy]

60. Ron Johnson? Wasn't he selling stereos in Fast Times at Ridgemont High?

[BlueStreak]

61. WOW. Is it possible Johns didn't know she has sered in Congress -- on the Budget committee?

That is way beyond stupid.

The first openly gay Senator versus (unfortunately not) the first openly stupid Senator

This moron has 4 years left in his terms. Not too early to be thinking about replacing him.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

66. "as soon as he explained the "facts" of the budget to her."

I guess since she's gay he feels her parents didn't tell her the facts of life either or she would know a guy's winkie is supposed to go in her hoo ha.

[WillyT]

67. Ok...That Just Cracked Me Up!!!

[RainDog]

69. kick his ass to the curb, Tammy! n/t

[Trailrider1951]

70. Chew him a new one, Ms. Baldwin

What an arrogant asshole! Are these folks self-important or what?

[The Wizard]

74. So let's get this straight

This condescending prick who bought a Senate seat is going to teach someone about Congress and the budget who's been in Congress three times longer than he has. Just curious to know how he amassed his fortune and if he has money in off shore tax havens.

[pansypoo53219]

76. oh that is delicious. senator stupid has been knocked righteously .

he has been nothing but a blowhard.

[Tigress DEM]

77. BOOOOOOM shakalaka!

She spanked him good!!

[Coyotl]

80. That familiar "I hope she can get away from her ironing" condescension.

[D23MIURG23]

82. If that's not mansplaining, I don't know what is.

[jmowreader]

83. Translating teabagger to English is always fun

To teabaggers, the only thing wrong with the budget is overspending, overregulation and overtaxation.

To teabaggers, common sense solutions to budget deficits always start with tax cuts.

Rational people automatically think, "if the problem is a lack of money, how the fuck does taking in less of it do anything but make the problem worse?"

[outsideworld]

84. KABOOM

[jsmirman]

86. Tammy just made the 300 plus bucks I threw her way that much sweeter

Tammy Baldwin is fucking awesome.

[tavalon]

87. Tell me again why our mascot is the jackass?

The other side seems to have patented being jackasses. The closest we come is Eeyore, the long suffering donkey, putting up with their elephant shit all over the place!

[toby jo]

98. The jackass can see its' feet at all times, unlike , say a horse, which cannot view its' back feet.

This is why they are used in mountain climbs, on steep terrain, where the going is narrow.

This is also why they know when to stop, and to 'not go there'; and nothing will make them.

They have a well-designed brain for the climb.

[tavalon]

89. I'm having a hard time keeping up, Did Senator Baldwin beat

one of the rape boys? There are too many to keep up with.

[bigbrother05]

96. Beat for Gov Tommy Thompson

[tavalon]

109. Did he have something witty and not at all wise to say about rape?

So many did.

[Berlum]

90. And Republicans wonder why they are such losers...

sheesh...

[justiceischeap]

91. Baldwin wasn't the only one he was explaining things to yesterday

He decided to school the voters a bit too:

"If you aren't properly informed, if you don't understand the problems facing this nation, you are that much more prone to falling prey to demagoguing solutions. And the problem with demagoguing solutions is they don't work," Johnson said. "I am concerned about people who don't fully understand the very ugly math we are facing in this country."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/08/ron-johnson-obama-tammy-baldwin_n_2095322.html

[John2]

93. Ron Johnson

is an example of who the Democrats should target when he is up for re-election if they obstruct the President's Policies in a Blue State. All the GOP's representatives are not in safe red states. They should be recruiting people right now to target these people that march in lock step with the GOP instead of representing the needs of their states. Nobody can blame the President for the state of anything in the country,because he has been dealing with these people.

[AllyCat]

94. My Senator!

Unfortunately, that description also works for the other one from my state

Only 4 more years before we can get ride of that loser. What a horrible Senator he is. Utterly unresponsive to his constituents. Ugh. Tammy is a breath of fresh air and is FAR more progressive than Herb Kohl ever was.

[UTUSN]

95. R#220 & K n/t

[barbtries]

99. condescending pig.

i like her response.

[CrispyQ]

102. These guys just can't help themselves.

They lack the self control to hide their blatant contempt for women. They aren't fit to govern.

Keep it up Senator. Women made a huge impact in this election & we are paying attention.

[midnight]

104. When Ron is done Mansplaining the budget... Tammy can tell him

how those numbers will begin to work for the 47 percent... He can count on it....

[frylock]

105. you just got knocked the fuck out!

[Dont call me Shirley]

106. Tammy knows well of those republican "facts".

[Pachamama]

110. My prediction is that Senator Baldwin will be the Sr Senator after Senator Johnson's one & only term