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Historic news - NYTimes reporting Grand Jury voted to FELONY indict trump! (Original Post) Roland99 Mar 2023 OP
FINA-FUCKING-LLY!!! n/t Silent3 Mar 2023 #1
I Concur! WiVoter Mar 2023 #18
+1,000,000 LiberalLovinLug Mar 2023 #34
agreed gopiscrap Mar 2023 #41
MSNBC is reporting that they are voting on an indictment, Ocelot II Mar 2023 #2
It's sure wryter2000 Mar 2023 #4
Felony! n/t wryter2000 Mar 2023 #3
NYTimes article ..... Roland99 Mar 2023 #5
tick tick BOOM C_U_L8R Mar 2023 #6
Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh! Halafuckinglujah Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2023 #7
Sheetcaking! lindysalsagal Mar 2023 #8
Oh yah!!!!! Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2023 #24
Yes!!! honest.abe Mar 2023 #9
That can't be right Goodheart Mar 2023 #10
He did??? Lol Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2023 #25
The same orange POS also said he was going to be hauled in 2 weeks ago jmowreader Mar 2023 #30
May it be only the first of many indictments blogslug Mar 2023 #11
Now the DA decides whether he will indict iemanja Mar 2023 #12
Kick dalton99a Mar 2023 #13
Is this the one with Stormy? BannonsLiver Mar 2023 #14
Yes. I'm betting conspiracy comes into play Roland99 Mar 2023 #17
Wait..... inthewind21 Mar 2023 #15
I'm elated it finally happened... Silent3 Mar 2023 #20
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu The Unmitigated Gall Mar 2023 #16
Now it gets interesting spinbaby Mar 2023 #19
So are we just waiting for Bragg to formally announce it? ecstatic Mar 2023 #21
this is the next step in a long journey....... Takket Mar 2023 #22
Duck for cover - - incoming ketchup bottles! Talitha Mar 2023 #23
I'm seriously tempted to watch Tucker tonight. edbermac Mar 2023 #26
I think it's BRIGHT DAY for the USA.. LOCK HIM UP Cha Mar 2023 #27
Trump can run for president while in jail. No rules against it and no rules against a convicted LiberalArkie Mar 2023 #28
But Traildogbob Mar 2023 #32
He could.. Being a state charge, he could not do anything, maybe.. Uncharted territory LiberalArkie Mar 2023 #33
True, nothing in the constitution prohibits a convicted criminal from running yaesu Mar 2023 #35
And there is this LiberalArkie Mar 2023 #37
I want everybody to go to their open window and shout, "LOCK HIM UP, LOCK HIM UP, LOCK HIM UP,... " spike jones Mar 2023 #29
wooHOO!!!!!!!!!! UTUSN Mar 2023 #31
A dark day maybe but one that had to happen mvd Mar 2023 #36
34 counts (per cnn) nt orleans Mar 2023 #38
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Mar 2023 #39
Felony thinkingagain Mar 2023 #40
HAVE FUN YOU TRAITOROUS PIECE OF SHIT orangecrush Mar 2023 #42
Join us in song. tiredtoo Mar 2023 #43

Ocelot II

(117,564 posts)
2. MSNBC is reporting that they are voting on an indictment,
Thu Mar 30, 2023, 05:32 PM
Mar 2023

but not that they've voted to indict (yet).

Whooops, they just reported the indictment. Woohoo!

Roland99

(53,343 posts)
5. NYTimes article .....
Thu Mar 30, 2023, 05:38 PM
Mar 2023

The unprecedented case against Trump will have wide-ranging implications.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/03/30/nyregion/trump-indictment-news/the-unprecedented-case-against-trump-will-have-wide-ranging-implications



The felony indictment, filed under seal by the Manhattan district attorney’s office, will likely be announced in the coming days. By then, prosecutors working for the district attorney, Alvin L. Bragg, will have asked Mr. Trump to surrender and to face arraignment on charges that remain unknown for now.



Here’s what else you need to know:

Mr. Bragg and his lawyers will likely attempt to negotiate Mr. Trump’s surrender. If he agrees, it will raise the prospect of a former president, with the Secret Service in tow, being photographed and fingerprinted in the bowels of a New York State courthouse.

The prosecution’s star witness is Michael D. Cohen, Mr. Trump’s former fixer who paid the $130,000 to keep Ms. Daniels quiet. Mr. Cohen has said that Mr. Trump directed him to buy Ms. Daniels’s silence, and that Mr. Trump and his family business, the Trump Organization, helped cover the whole thing up. The company’s internal records falsely identified the reimbursements as legal expenses, which helped conceal the purpose of the payments.

Although the specific charges remain unknown, Mr. Bragg’s prosecutors have zeroed in on that hush money payment and the false records created by Mr. Trump’s company. A conviction is not a sure thing: An attempt to combine a charge relating to the false records with an election violation relating to the payment to Ms. Daniels would be based on a legal theory that has yet to be evaluated by judges, raising the possibility that a court could throw out or limit the charges.

The vote to indict, the product of a nearly five-year investigation, kicks off a new and volatile phase in Mr. Trump’s post-presidential life as he makes a third run for the White House. And it could throw the race for the Republican nomination — which he leads in most polls — into uncharted territory.

jmowreader

(50,834 posts)
30. The same orange POS also said he was going to be hauled in 2 weeks ago
Thu Mar 30, 2023, 06:43 PM
Mar 2023

Trump is one of those guys that if he walks into your office dripping wet and claims it’s raining, you go outside and look up. At this point in time I wouldn’t trust him if he said he was Donald Trump.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
15. Wait.....
Thu Mar 30, 2023, 05:46 PM
Mar 2023

Whaaaaaat? Can't be, the statute of limitations ran out! It will never happen! Should have been done 7 years ago!

Or, the slow wheels of justice did indeed turn!

 

Silent3

(15,900 posts)
20. I'm elated it finally happened...
Thu Mar 30, 2023, 05:50 PM
Mar 2023

…but that doesn’t change my mind that it took too damned long.

The Unmitigated Gall

(4,103 posts)
16. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Thu Mar 30, 2023, 05:47 PM
Mar 2023

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

spinbaby

(15,147 posts)
19. Now it gets interesting
Thu Mar 30, 2023, 05:50 PM
Mar 2023

Does he turn himself in?
Does he barricade himself in his tacky golf club?
Please, I want to see a low-speed white golf-cart chase.

ecstatic

(33,297 posts)
21. So are we just waiting for Bragg to formally announce it?
Thu Mar 30, 2023, 05:52 PM
Mar 2023

Or does he have to decide if he agrees with the jury or not?

Takket

(22,155 posts)
22. this is the next step in a long journey.......
Thu Mar 30, 2023, 06:00 PM
Mar 2023

the trial will drag on probably for multiple years. by trial i mean all the motions leading up to the trial, and the trial, and the sentencing phases.

I hope the judge runs a tight ship and doesn't turn this into another OJ trial. we can't afford a lance Ito letting the defense run roughshod all over the justice system.

Thank you Mr. Bragg, next up Willis and Smith

LiberalArkie

(15,886 posts)
28. Trump can run for president while in jail. No rules against it and no rules against a convicted
Thu Mar 30, 2023, 06:36 PM
Mar 2023

person being elected of even serving while in prison.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
35. True, nothing in the constitution prohibits a convicted criminal from running
Thu Mar 30, 2023, 07:20 PM
Mar 2023

Being elected through some state won't let you vote. He may be probibited from leaving the state at some point which would be interesting politically speaking.

LiberalArkie

(15,886 posts)
37. And there is this
Thu Mar 30, 2023, 07:23 PM
Mar 2023
https://recordinglaw.com/can-a-convicted-felon-run-for-president/


There has been no American President convicted or who has been incarcerated or served a sentence prior to their Presidential term. Felony charges or a criminal record often act as leverage for the Opposition. Stigmatization of felons complicates the process of establishing trust amongst people and also harms the public record.

A felony record is more of a political burden than a legal one – the only major negative effect of having a record is that it may be used by your opposition. Alternatively, if your charges were bogus, it may end up galvanizing your base.
Historically there have been several people who have run for President with no legal issues:

1920– Socialist Party Leader Eugene V. Debs ran while in an Atlanta federal penitentiary for charges he gained advocating dodging the draft. He received 913,664 votes (3.4%)
1992– Lyndon LaRouche, a perennial presidential candidate became the second person to run for office from a prison cell. He garnered 22,863 votes (less than 0.1%) in his third of nine presidential runs.
2012 – Keith Judd, another perennial presidential candidate, received 41% of the primary vote in West Virginia vs. an incumbent Barack Obama.
It should be noted that none of these candidates ever received any electoral votes.

mvd

(65,245 posts)
36. A dark day maybe but one that had to happen
Thu Mar 30, 2023, 07:22 PM
Mar 2023

This surprised me in a great way after reading the GJ was going on a break. Now let this just be the beginning!

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