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A dark day for America. But a shining light of justice

Silent3
(15,909 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,444 posts)Ocelot II
(125,264 posts)but not that they've voted to indict (yet).
Whooops, they just reported the indictment. Woohoo!
wryter2000
(47,873 posts)announced a few minutes ago
wryter2000
(47,873 posts)N/T
Roland99
(53,345 posts)The unprecedented case against Trump will have wide-ranging implications.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/03/30/nyregion/trump-indictment-news/the-unprecedented-case-against-trump-will-have-wide-ranging-implications
The felony indictment, filed under seal by the Manhattan district attorneys office, will likely be announced in the coming days. By then, prosecutors working for the district attorney, Alvin L. Bragg, will have asked Mr. Trump to surrender and to face arraignment on charges that remain unknown for now.
Heres what else you need to know:
Mr. Bragg and his lawyers will likely attempt to negotiate Mr. Trumps surrender. If he agrees, it will raise the prospect of a former president, with the Secret Service in tow, being photographed and fingerprinted in the bowels of a New York State courthouse.
The prosecutions star witness is Michael D. Cohen, Mr. Trumps former fixer who paid the $130,000 to keep Ms. Daniels quiet. Mr. Cohen has said that Mr. Trump directed him to buy Ms. Danielss silence, and that Mr. Trump and his family business, the Trump Organization, helped cover the whole thing up. The companys internal records falsely identified the reimbursements as legal expenses, which helped conceal the purpose of the payments.
Although the specific charges remain unknown, Mr. Braggs prosecutors have zeroed in on that hush money payment and the false records created by Mr. Trumps company. A conviction is not a sure thing: An attempt to combine a charge relating to the false records with an election violation relating to the payment to Ms. Daniels would be based on a legal theory that has yet to be evaluated by judges, raising the possibility that a court could throw out or limit the charges.
The vote to indict, the product of a nearly five-year investigation, kicks off a new and volatile phase in Mr. Trumps post-presidential life as he makes a third run for the White House. And it could throw the race for the Republican nomination which he leads in most polls into uncharted territory.
C_U_L8R
(47,489 posts)First of many indictments.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)lindysalsagal
(22,694 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)honest.abe
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Goodheart
(5,760 posts)A certain orange piece of shit said they dropped the case.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)jmowreader
(52,412 posts)Trump is one of those guys that if he walks into your office dripping wet and claims its raining, you go outside and look up. At this point in time I wouldnt trust him if he said he was Donald Trump.
blogslug
(38,895 posts)and then jail for donald for a thousand years
iemanja
(56,055 posts)dalton99a
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BannonsLiver
(19,281 posts)Roland99
(53,345 posts)inthewind21
(4,616 posts)Whaaaaaat? Can't be, the statute of limitations ran out! It will never happen! Should have been done 7 years ago!
Or, the slow wheels of justice did indeed turn!
Silent3
(15,909 posts)but that doesnt change my mind that it took too damned long.
The Unmitigated Gall
(4,710 posts)Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
spinbaby
(15,283 posts)Does he turn himself in?
Does he barricade himself in his tacky golf club?
Please, I want to see a low-speed white golf-cart chase.
ecstatic
(34,810 posts)Or does he have to decide if he agrees with the jury or not?
Takket
(23,003 posts)the trial will drag on probably for multiple years. by trial i mean all the motions leading up to the trial, and the trial, and the sentencing phases.
I hope the judge runs a tight ship and doesn't turn this into another OJ trial. we can't afford a lance Ito letting the defense run roughshod all over the justice system.
Thank you Mr. Bragg, next up Willis and Smith
Talitha
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edbermac
(16,184 posts)Hell literally be frothing at the mouth.
Cha
(311,918 posts)LiberalArkie
(18,411 posts)person being elected of even serving while in prison.
Traildogbob
(11,292 posts)Does he stay in prison while commanding HIS generals?
LiberalArkie
(18,411 posts)yaesu
(8,622 posts)Being elected through some state won't let you vote. He may be probibited from leaving the state at some point which would be interesting politically speaking.
LiberalArkie
(18,411 posts)There has been no American President convicted or who has been incarcerated or served a sentence prior to their Presidential term. Felony charges or a criminal record often act as leverage for the Opposition. Stigmatization of felons complicates the process of establishing trust amongst people and also harms the public record.
A felony record is more of a political burden than a legal one the only major negative effect of having a record is that it may be used by your opposition. Alternatively, if your charges were bogus, it may end up galvanizing your base.
Historically there have been several people who have run for President with no legal issues:
1920 Socialist Party Leader Eugene V. Debs ran while in an Atlanta federal penitentiary for charges he gained advocating dodging the draft. He received 913,664 votes (3.4%)
1992 Lyndon LaRouche, a perennial presidential candidate became the second person to run for office from a prison cell. He garnered 22,863 votes (less than 0.1%) in his third of nine presidential runs.
2012 Keith Judd, another perennial presidential candidate, received 41% of the primary vote in West Virginia vs. an incumbent Barack Obama.
It should be noted that none of these candidates ever received any electoral votes.
spike jones
(1,888 posts)UTUSN
(74,436 posts)mvd
(65,656 posts)This surprised me in a great way after reading the GJ was going on a break. Now let this just be the beginning!
orleans
(36,110 posts)Upthevibe
(9,571 posts)thinkingagain
(1,303 posts)That means he can no longer vote or own guns right!
orangecrush
(25,052 posts)KETCHUP TSUNAMI!!!!