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99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:13 PM Nov 2012

Lest anyone here be saddened by the sudden departure of Gen. Betrayus from CIA

This story broke today, announcing Gen. Petaeus's abrupt resignation from heading up the CIA,
due to some elicit "affair" he is having, not uncommon in Republican circles, but clearly something
the head of the CIA should avoid at all costs. I do not mourn this turn of events. On the contrary,
I am unashamedly relieved and happy about it, for the following reasons.
http://www.politicususa.com/gop-dreams-david-petraeus-president-crash-burn-affair-revelations.html

In actuality, this man was a GWBush Bag-man on steroids, who "supervised" some of the most corrupt
and criminal activities during the Iraq bloodbath in its heyday... he actively refused to allow Col. Ted
Westhusing to do his job, i.e. to shed light on the corruption by private "contractors" skimming
butt-loads of defense dollars, helping create the deficit we are now attempting to come to terms with,
nearly a decade later. In June 2005, Col. Westhusing turned up with a bullet in his head for doing his
job, which was deemed a "suicide" to the creepy shagrin of anyone who knew Westhusing, a truly
honorable man just trying to do his fucking job, who then turns up suspiciously dead.

This from The Nation in 2011.

General Petraeus's Link to a Troubling Suicide in Iraq: The Ted Westhusing Story
Greg Mitchell on June 27, 2011 - 9:40 AM ET

The scourge of suicides among American troops and reservists in Iraq and Afghanistan remains a serious and seriously underreported problem. Last month they hit a new high in the US Army, despite intensive new efforts to prevent them. One of the few high-profile cases emerged six years ago this month, and it involves a much-admired Army colonel and ethicist named Ted Westhusing—who, in his suicide note, pointed a finger at a then little-known US general named David Petraeus.

Westhusing’s widow, asked by a friend what killed this West Point scholar, replied simply: “Iraq.”

Before putting a bullet through his head, Westhusing had been deeply disturbed by abuses carried out by American contractors in Iraq, including allegations that they had witnessed or even participated in the murder of Iraqis. His suicide note included claims that his two commanders, Lt. Gen. Petraeus and Maj. Gen. Josephy Fil, tolerated a mission based on “corruption, human rights abuses and liars. I am sullied—no more. I didn’t volunteer to support corrupt, money grubbing contractors, nor work for commanders only interested in themselves.” One of those commanders: the future leader of American forces in Iraq, and then Afghanistan, Gen. David Petraeus.

Westhusing, 44, had been found dead in a trailer at a military base near the Baghdad airport in June 2005, a single gunshot wound to the head. At the time, he was the highest-ranking officer to die in Iraq. The Army concluded that he committed suicide with his service pistol and found his charges against the commanders unfounded. Petraeus and Fil would later attend Westhusing’s memorial service back in the United States.
http://www.thenation.com/blog/36661/general-petraeuss-link-troubling-suicide-iraq-ted-westhusing-story#



I feel our country is much safer and better off with this man removed as far as possible
from the key levers of power wielded by the CIA. I have no shame about feeling happy
and a huge sense of relief about this turn of events.

But maybe that's just me.
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Lest anyone here be saddened by the sudden departure of Gen. Betrayus from CIA (Original Post) 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 OP
Yes, thanks for this I was thinking the same, he's popular flamingdem Nov 2012 #1
I totally agree with you. malokvale77 Nov 2012 #2
The Right saw him as a possible Presidential or VP candidate, He would have been hard to defeat. PuppyBismark Nov 2012 #3
Was he Blackwater-Halliburton man on the inside? kelliekat44 Nov 2012 #27
Here's a link to Octafish's OP about Westhusing and Petraeus from earlier. Same line of thought fyi riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #4
Yep, I saw that, and posted my link there too. thanks for heads up tho. nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #5
k/r Solly Mack Nov 2012 #6
Great post! DemocratsForProgress Nov 2012 #7
having a general head the CIA is a conflict in my book. pasto76 Nov 2012 #8
So he eventually DID betray us. rocktivity Nov 2012 #9
Yes, but his betrayal didn't start with Ms. Broadwell 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #10
Let's hope Obama puts in someone with a brain who knows he works for us.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #11
How about Valarie Plame? 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #12
I have a wild suggestion... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #16
I'd rather see Barney replace Geithner 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #20
Him or Kucinich. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #25
Kucinich for CIA or Treasury? I could see either 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #28
I picture him using the CIA to promote peace,....for once. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #32
That would float my boat. :-) nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #34
Great idea. Barney should be somewhere up there... fadedrose Nov 2012 #33
When asked about his future all he says is that he's looking forward to,... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #38
Wow. I met a guy who had contracted to train Iraqi security personnel. I met him when he was in a patrice Nov 2012 #13
Sorry if I'm being dense 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #14
The guy whom I met who had been a contractor who trained Iraqi security forces. patrice Nov 2012 #18
ah, yes. thanks for the clarity. nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #24
Be-Tray-Us actually betrayed us! Hope there's a little bit of what coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #15
I wouldn't put any money on Betrayus ever being court martialed 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #17
He resigned from the Army in 2011, so UCMJ may not have jurisdiction. But it's coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #19
I was really PISSED when Obama put this skumbug in. What on earth was he thinking? Gabi Hayes Nov 2012 #21
Oh....PIers Morgan had Paul Bremer on, of all people, talking about Petrock. certainly one of Gabi Hayes Nov 2012 #22
Piers is so obvious with his BS. kelliekat44 Nov 2012 #26
My pleasure. ;-) Happy trails to you. 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #23
ahhhh.....what was the name of Pat Brady's Jeep? Gabi Hayes Nov 2012 #30
got 52 minutes to spare? some amusing bits here and there TGFFF Gabi Hayes Nov 2012 #35
The very first thing that started my disillusionment with Obama was his retention of coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #37
glad he's gone. military + cia = bad spanone Nov 2012 #29
I thought that being sent to CIA was punishment.... fadedrose Nov 2012 #31
fucking upward, I believe, is the phrase Gabi Hayes Nov 2012 #36

flamingdem

(39,312 posts)
1. Yes, thanks for this I was thinking the same, he's popular
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:26 PM
Nov 2012

and smart and a credible threat in 2016, Dems dodge another bullet.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
2. I totally agree with you.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:32 PM
Nov 2012

I always thought he was a creep. I see Admiral McRaven as a better model for honor in our military leaders.

PuppyBismark

(594 posts)
3. The Right saw him as a possible Presidential or VP candidate, He would have been hard to defeat.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:06 PM
Nov 2012

We just dodged a bullet.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
4. Here's a link to Octafish's OP about Westhusing and Petraeus from earlier. Same line of thought fyi
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:09 PM
Nov 2012
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021777389

Lots of excellent info there from Octafish

pasto76

(1,589 posts)
8. having a general head the CIA is a conflict in my book.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:29 PM
Nov 2012

Hayden was one thing, but the former CENTCOM commander and architect of these two wars...was never happy with him in that spot

rocktivity

(44,573 posts)
9. So he eventually DID betray us.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:39 PM
Nov 2012

I know we all make mistakes, but the head of the CIA putting himself in position to be blackmailed by an affair is like Michael Jordan sinking a three-pointer for the other team.


rocktivity

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
10. Yes, but his betrayal didn't start with Ms. Broadwell
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:47 PM
Nov 2012

or actually I think it's MRS. Broadwell, as I understand she is also married, or
was back in Jan, when she was on John Stewart show.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-january-25-2012/paula-broadwell

He's always been an untrustworth character in my book, as you can no doubt
tell from my op comments.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
11. Let's hope Obama puts in someone with a brain who knows he works for us....
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:05 PM
Nov 2012

Some of the worse people have held that post. Some corrupt, some conniving, some just plain evil.



 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
20. I'd rather see Barney replace Geithner
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:35 PM
Nov 2012

which I think is more in Barney's line of expertise.

But I certainly would support Frank's appointment to head the CIA,
based on that I trust the man, more than most in public office.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
38. When asked about his future all he says is that he's looking forward to,...
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:39 PM
Nov 2012

...not pretending to be nice to these people.

Bill Maher called him on that saying he hadn't been.

Barney said, "I didn't say I was good at it."



I think he's been offered a really good attack dog position.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
13. Wow. I met a guy who had contracted to train Iraqi security personnel. I met him when he was in a
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:13 PM
Nov 2012

Long Term Care Administrator training program.

He told me that he had been In Iraq and what his job was there and that he had just received word that the entire squad he had trained had been blown up, just after he left Iraq. All dead. And he felt he had been spared, because God had a purpose for him. (I guess he had decided that purpose was to make 6+ figures a year as an LTC Administrator.)

I said if he had been blown up, at least he would have gone with the knowledge that he had chosen to be there and that was a whole lot better deal than his Iraqi squad had gotten.

We didn't talk again after that.

From this story about Col. Ted Westhusing, I'm wondering what kind of LTC Administrator this guy turned out to be.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
14. Sorry if I'm being dense
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:22 PM
Nov 2012

but I'm unclear about who you are referring to as being an LTC Administrator.

Not Patraeus. and I don't think it would be Westhusing either?

So please help me out here.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
18. The guy whom I met who had been a contractor who trained Iraqi security forces.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:30 PM
Nov 2012

He was back from Iraq and in an LTC Administrator program when I met him.

I was just thinking about Westhusing's assessment of those particular contractors:

Bryce concluded: “In September 2005, the Army’s inspector general concluded an investigation into allegations raised in the anonymous letter to Westhusing shortly before his death. It found no basis for any of the issues raised. Although the report is redacted in places, it is clear that the investigation was aimed at determining whether Fil or Petraeus had ignored the corruption and human rights abuses allegedly occurring within the training program for Iraqi security personnel.
 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
15. Be-Tray-Us actually betrayed us! Hope there's a little bit of what
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:25 PM
Nov 2012

Bradley Manning received in Be-tray-us' future. Starting with full court martial and 23 hours solitary each day.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
17. I wouldn't put any money on Betrayus ever being court martialed
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:30 PM
Nov 2012

Much less serve any jail time what-so-ever.

But, personally, I'd much rather see that happen to
THIS guy, instead of PFC Manning.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
19. He resigned from the Army in 2011, so UCMJ may not have jurisdiction. But it's
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:33 PM
Nov 2012

a prosecutable offense (or it used to be) for an officer to commit adultery. Conduct unbecoming or some such . . .

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
21. I was really PISSED when Obama put this skumbug in. What on earth was he thinking?
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:39 PM
Nov 2012

when is he going to learn that trying to mollify the right wing maniacs who run the repub party is the absolute wrong thing to do?

thanks very much for the most enlightening info, btw

I'd read much other stuff about how rotten Petraeus was, more from a military standpoint, but this is just too too too

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
22. Oh....PIers Morgan had Paul Bremer on, of all people, talking about Petrock. certainly one of
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:41 PM
Nov 2012

the few men more corrupt, more vile than the general himself

he started in on Libya, of course, putting Obama in the worst light possible, capably assisted by that cretin Morgan

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
30. ahhhh.....what was the name of Pat Brady's Jeep?
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:13 PM
Nov 2012

I remembered after about 10 seconds....first thing that came to mind was Clarabelle

that's a hint

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
37. The very first thing that started my disillusionment with Obama was his retention of
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:32 PM
Nov 2012

Robert Gates as Secretary of Defense.

WTF?????

My wife said it was a case of 'both sides playing for the same team'.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
31. I thought that being sent to CIA was punishment....
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:13 PM
Nov 2012

I remember that he was uncomplimentary about our policy in Iraq and he was removed from that post for that reason. Guess I was wrong....

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