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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLest anyone here be saddened by the sudden departure of Gen. Betrayus from CIA
This story broke today, announcing Gen. Petaeus's abrupt resignation from heading up the CIA,
due to some elicit "affair" he is having, not uncommon in Republican circles, but clearly something
the head of the CIA should avoid at all costs. I do not mourn this turn of events. On the contrary,
I am unashamedly relieved and happy about it, for the following reasons.
http://www.politicususa.com/gop-dreams-david-petraeus-president-crash-burn-affair-revelations.html
In actuality, this man was a GWBush Bag-man on steroids, who "supervised" some of the most corrupt
and criminal activities during the Iraq bloodbath in its heyday... he actively refused to allow Col. Ted
Westhusing to do his job, i.e. to shed light on the corruption by private "contractors" skimming
butt-loads of defense dollars, helping create the deficit we are now attempting to come to terms with,
nearly a decade later. In June 2005, Col. Westhusing turned up with a bullet in his head for doing his
job, which was deemed a "suicide" to the creepy shagrin of anyone who knew Westhusing, a truly
honorable man just trying to do his fucking job, who then turns up suspiciously dead.
This from The Nation in 2011.
General Petraeus's Link to a Troubling Suicide in Iraq: The Ted Westhusing Story
Greg Mitchell on June 27, 2011 - 9:40 AM ET
The scourge of suicides among American troops and reservists in Iraq and Afghanistan remains a serious and seriously underreported problem. Last month they hit a new high in the US Army, despite intensive new efforts to prevent them. One of the few high-profile cases emerged six years ago this month, and it involves a much-admired Army colonel and ethicist named Ted Westhusingwho, in his suicide note, pointed a finger at a then little-known US general named David Petraeus.
Westhusings widow, asked by a friend what killed this West Point scholar, replied simply: Iraq.
Before putting a bullet through his head, Westhusing had been deeply disturbed by abuses carried out by American contractors in Iraq, including allegations that they had witnessed or even participated in the murder of Iraqis. His suicide note included claims that his two commanders, Lt. Gen. Petraeus and Maj. Gen. Josephy Fil, tolerated a mission based on corruption, human rights abuses and liars. I am sulliedno more. I didnt volunteer to support corrupt, money grubbing contractors, nor work for commanders only interested in themselves. One of those commanders: the future leader of American forces in Iraq, and then Afghanistan, Gen. David Petraeus.
Westhusing, 44, had been found dead in a trailer at a military base near the Baghdad airport in June 2005, a single gunshot wound to the head. At the time, he was the highest-ranking officer to die in Iraq. The Army concluded that he committed suicide with his service pistol and found his charges against the commanders unfounded. Petraeus and Fil would later attend Westhusings memorial service back in the United States.
http://www.thenation.com/blog/36661/general-petraeuss-link-troubling-suicide-iraq-ted-westhusing-story#
I feel our country is much safer and better off with this man removed as far as possible
from the key levers of power wielded by the CIA. I have no shame about feeling happy
and a huge sense of relief about this turn of events.
But maybe that's just me.
flamingdem
(39,312 posts)and smart and a credible threat in 2016, Dems dodge another bullet.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)I always thought he was a creep. I see Admiral McRaven as a better model for honor in our military leaders.
PuppyBismark
(594 posts)We just dodged a bullet.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)DemocratsForProgress
(545 posts)And good riddance to the general.
pasto76
(1,589 posts)Hayden was one thing, but the former CENTCOM commander and architect of these two wars...was never happy with him in that spot
rocktivity
(44,573 posts)I know we all make mistakes, but the head of the CIA putting himself in position to be blackmailed by an affair is like Michael Jordan sinking a three-pointer for the other team.
rocktivity
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)or actually I think it's MRS. Broadwell, as I understand she is also married, or
was back in Jan, when she was on John Stewart show.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-january-25-2012/paula-broadwell
He's always been an untrustworth character in my book, as you can no doubt
tell from my op comments.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Some of the worse people have held that post. Some corrupt, some conniving, some just plain evil.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Except for that she's probably not evil enough for the job.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)which I think is more in Barney's line of expertise.
But I certainly would support Frank's appointment to head the CIA,
based on that I trust the man, more than most in public office.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)as desirable, but no very likely. I love Dennis..
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)fadedrose
(10,044 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)...not pretending to be nice to these people.
Bill Maher called him on that saying he hadn't been.
Barney said, "I didn't say I was good at it."
I think he's been offered a really good attack dog position.
patrice
(47,992 posts)Long Term Care Administrator training program.
He told me that he had been In Iraq and what his job was there and that he had just received word that the entire squad he had trained had been blown up, just after he left Iraq. All dead. And he felt he had been spared, because God had a purpose for him. (I guess he had decided that purpose was to make 6+ figures a year as an LTC Administrator.)
I said if he had been blown up, at least he would have gone with the knowledge that he had chosen to be there and that was a whole lot better deal than his Iraqi squad had gotten.
We didn't talk again after that.
From this story about Col. Ted Westhusing, I'm wondering what kind of LTC Administrator this guy turned out to be.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)but I'm unclear about who you are referring to as being an LTC Administrator.
Not Patraeus. and I don't think it would be Westhusing either?
So please help me out here.
patrice
(47,992 posts)He was back from Iraq and in an LTC Administrator program when I met him.
I was just thinking about Westhusing's assessment of those particular contractors:
Bryce concluded: In September 2005, the Armys inspector general concluded an investigation into allegations raised in the anonymous letter to Westhusing shortly before his death. It found no basis for any of the issues raised. Although the report is redacted in places, it is clear that the investigation was aimed at determining whether Fil or Petraeus had ignored the corruption and human rights abuses allegedly occurring within the training program for Iraqi security personnel.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)Bradley Manning received in Be-tray-us' future. Starting with full court martial and 23 hours solitary each day.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Much less serve any jail time what-so-ever.
But, personally, I'd much rather see that happen to
THIS guy, instead of PFC Manning.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)a prosecutable offense (or it used to be) for an officer to commit adultery. Conduct unbecoming or some such . . .
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)when is he going to learn that trying to mollify the right wing maniacs who run the repub party is the absolute wrong thing to do?
thanks very much for the most enlightening info, btw
I'd read much other stuff about how rotten Petraeus was, more from a military standpoint, but this is just too too too
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)the few men more corrupt, more vile than the general himself
he started in on Libya, of course, putting Obama in the worst light possible, capably assisted by that cretin Morgan
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Roy Rogers was one of my major childhood heros.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)I remembered after about 10 seconds....first thing that came to mind was Clarabelle
that's a hint
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)Robert Gates as Secretary of Defense.
WTF?????
My wife said it was a case of 'both sides playing for the same team'.
spanone
(135,815 posts)fadedrose
(10,044 posts)I remember that he was uncomplimentary about our policy in Iraq and he was removed from that post for that reason. Guess I was wrong....