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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPeople have accused me of having trump Derangement Syndrome...
Yup.
As long as he is the Repub front-runner, I'm unhinged at the idea that a creature like that could even run for President.
The Polack MSgt
(13,186 posts)Just wanted to say thanx 1st.
albacore
(2,398 posts)If you were a MSgt, you know "alternate requisition", "midnight requisition", "tactically acquired" and the like.
In the Marines, we often used the acronym S.T.E.A.L.... Strategically Taking Equipment to Another Location.
The Polack MSgt
(13,186 posts)Expedited requisition process was also a thing that happened.
erronis
(15,216 posts)Leave your cubicle for a 5 minute loo break and come back with a different (or none) chair.
The Unmitigated Gall
(3,797 posts)Its having common decency, respect for truth and a moral center.
Trump-humping pukes have none.
JHB
(37,158 posts)The only real "derangement syndromes" are the ones they have: For Bush and Trump, and against the Clintons, Obamas, Pelosi, Biden, etc.
Gaugamela
(2,496 posts)As I said below, Trumps Deranged Supporters.
FakeNoose
(32,613 posts)... when reality it should be called "Trump Truth Syndrome."
Everyone who knows the truth about Chump feels the same way you do. In fact we all do.
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)BECAUSE the whole syndrome is based on the predicate that tRUMP actually HAS legitimate policy ideas that align with his actions.
NAME ONE, Esther.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_derangement_syndrome
The first use of the term Trump derangement syndrome may have been by Esther Goldberg in an August 2015 op-ed in The American Spectator; she applied the term to "Ruling Class Republicans" who are dismissive or contemptuous of Trump.
"Trump Derangement Syndrome" was the "inability to distinguish between legitimate policy differences and ... signs of psychic pathology" in his behavior.
BECAUSE if tRUMP HAS ANY LEGITIMATE POLICY IDEAS that align with his actual implementations of policy, I have yet to hear them.
HE SAID.... In 2016, Trump described himself as pro-life with exceptions for rape, incest, and circumstances endangering the life of the mother.
WHAT HE DID.... Stacked the SCOTUS and lower courts in order to overturn Roe V Wade and make ALL abortions illegal - including those which had been a result of rape, incest, and circumstances endangering the life of the mother.
WE DON'T OBJECT TO HAVING A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION.
We object to having ONE policy for your mouth to get you elected AND a SECOND for your radical base that IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
WE POINT OUT THAT HIS WORDS AND ACTUAL POLICY ENACTED DO NOT MATCH and COMPLETELY disregard the CIVIL LIBERTIES of Americans.
HIS AMERICA FIRST policy is based on a 1940's rebellion against US involvement in WWII which IF we'd followed it, could have resulted in the TOTAL genocide of the Jewish people, whom Republicans SAY they support, but who they trash and demean constantly.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/trump-america-first/514037/
AMERICA FIRST only means WHITE PEOPLE.
Not Jews:
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-photo-soros-nazi-bookkeeper/fact-check-photographshows-nazi-bookkeeper-notgeorge-soros-idUSKBN23P2TP
Not blacks
Not brown people
Asians ok, but only if they are here to do business
HIS LAWS gave MORE MONEY AND TAX BREAKS TO THE WEALTHY and has resulted in an economy where the bottom 50% STILL have less than 5% of the wealth in AMERICA and we added MORE to Billionaires pockets than ever before
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2020/10/24/these-10-billionaires-have-gained-the-most-money-since-trumps-2016-election/?sh=7578a0404b07
https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/535239-how-trump-fueled-economic-inequality-in-america/
https://inequality.org/research/trump-income-inequality/
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WFRBSB50215
Bush Jr pushed the economy off the cliff and Obama pulled us out of a recession and started bringing some income equality back, tRUMP did make small progress for the bottom 50% but SO MUCH MORE went to the top AND Biden has moved the lower 50 percent up faster in 1st year than tRUMP did in all 4 years.
SO REALISTICALLY, we aren't deranged, we're pissed and this guy wants to steal elections and avoid paying his fair share of taxes and prevent people from voting for anyone but him. THAT is DERANGED. He lives in America, wants all the rights and freedoms, but also wants to be dictator and take away the rights and freedoms of others.
AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN WITHOUT A FIGHT.
erronis
(15,216 posts)I'll pull this into it's own little web window and start digging into these links. If you don't hear from me in a couple, send in the clean-up crew.
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)AND what some don't understand is that if you listen to his words he contradicts himself constantly.
IF you have a VALID policy, it stays the same no matter who you are talking to, unless you are revising it in actuality.
SO if some bi-partisan agreement alters a final law it's the result of a compromise.
BUT if you tell your base A and the public B, but enact A which is NOT what you ran on, it's a lie.
PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
But you knew that.
Preaching to the choir, I know.
ancianita
(36,009 posts)You present a model of political armor.
We can win the election, but we've got use the reality of his record to win against their delusions.
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)MAGA man speaks with FORKED TONGUE.
LIKE A SNAKE his words are poison and are in direct opposition to his own previous statements.
WE NEED TO POST HIM actually objecting to his OWN policies.
THAT is deranged.
ancianita
(36,009 posts)He objected to his own policies because he blew with the conservative base and the Right's intelligentsia. Both have worked toward the solidifying of a christofascist nation with all the trappings of women's subservience:
from a critical New Republic blog
https://newrepublic.com/article/169050/masters-vance-weird-right-republicans
By removing women from the labor market and circumscribing womens social roles, the movement offers the illusion of sanctuary from modern woes and economic demands. It goes beyond simply reacting to perceived leftist excesses and embraces a sociopolitical program that would, if enacted, essentially remove the ability of American women to determine the course of their own livesmaking them, once again, primarily subservient to and dependent upon male breadwinners. Millions of Americans are stay-at-home parents; most would likely be ill suited to the trad wifes world. The aesthetics of trad wives are intertwined with darker impulses on the activist right toward a state that legally mandates specific gender rolesa form of recontainment that traps women in marriages and bars them from basic autonomy and self-sufficiency.
Womens and reproductive rights are areas where meme-infused weirdness and actual policy align to set the right against most American voters. When right-wing writers like National Reviews Nate Hochman argue that no-fault divorce was a tragic mistake (a view shared by numerous other far-right figures), he is not only embracing a position outside the bounds of conventional American life but one that is deeply politically unpopular, opposed by at least four-fifths of Americans. The activist rights legal alternative is covenant marriage, which allows divorce only under extreme circumstances like felony conviction or child abuse. Covenant marriage has recently made its way into the Texas Republican Partys official platform as a replacement for existing marriage law.
Trad wife aesthetics are partly a result of right-wing influencers embrace of traditionalist religious attitudes. The embrace of traditionalist Catholicism and the rise of integralists like Harvard Law School professor Adrian Vermeulewho espouses a quasi-theocracy that even the conservative stalwart George Will has said is un-Americanare critical pieces of the aesthetic and moral revanchism now in vogue on the right.
The growing fascination with Catholicismparticularly sedevacantism, which denies the current popes legitimacyis, according to one critic, indicative of the educated and activist rights admiration for the [European] aristocratic past and a longing for a new elite to which it feels it belongs. This segment of the right has, both programmatically and aesthetically, lost interest in conserving that which is American and moved on to mine its influences from stranger sources. Constitutionalism, Enlightenment rationality, religious freedom, and republicanism are out. European aristocracy, crusading holy orders, and mysticism are in. Mr. West may still make the usual overtures to Americana in press releases, but the Knights Templar (so far as I know) never made it to Texas.
That idealization of the European right has led not just to the fetishization of historical monarchismcheerled by figures like the reactionary thinker Curtis Yarvinbut to more immediate fascination with contemporary autocrats, especially Prime Minister Viktor Orbán of Hungary and President Vladimir Putin of Russia.
One such admirer is Nick Fuentes, a prominent activist among college Republicans and also a white supremacist and antisemite who has become cozy with some congressional Republicans. Fuentes has praised Putins invasion of Ukraine. We continue to support czar Putin in the war effort, Fuentes said, saying Putin would liberate Ukraine from the Great Satan and from the evil empire in the world, which is the United States. In this narrative, Putins invasion is a component of a broader war against American influence and democratic valuesa goal shared by Orbáns government, which has promoted illiberal democracy, decried race-mixing, crushed freedom of speech, and curtailed LGBTQ rights. Naturally, the Conservative Political Action Conference was held in Hungary earlier this year.
Among Americans more generally, the right-wing embrace of Putin is dismally unpopular: Just 6 percent U.S. adults have a positive opinion of the Russian president, the Pew Research Center found this year. Meanwhile, the MAGACommunism movement has combined American nationalism with praise for another authoritarian leader despised by most Americans, Chinas Xi Jinping.
Alienating mainstream voters by embracing fringe values and off-putting aesthetics is not a new follyon the left or the right. In the early twentieth century, French voters regularly elected left-leaning governments despite numerous crises that beset the nation. One socialist essayist, Charles Péguy, argued that the right was actually far less conservative than the leftwhile the right pushed radical transformation, reorganizing France around the Catholic Church and reestablishing a powerful monarchy, the leftin Péguys viewsought to preserve hard-fought but deeply held French values like the separation of church and state, equitable citizenship, and republican liberty.
In the U.S., the cultural left of the late twentieth century managed to alienate many voters through its pessimistic belief that America could not be reformed by material policy, only transformed through a shift in social consciousness. As the philosopher Richard Rorty wrote in Achieving Our Country, while a reformist left gained popularity with a multiracial, multiclass electoral coalition in the early twentieth century by painting an optimistic image of what America could be, the latereducated and mostly well-offcultural left chose as its enemy a mind-set rather than a set of economic arrangements, removing itself from what voters actually cared about and instead defining itself by its cultural consumption and outlandish aesthetic preferences. The cultural left saw material political conditions as a downstream afterthought from culture and so tacitly abandoned both politics and cultureand got weird. The decades of backlash, from Richard Nixon to Ronald Reagan to George W. Bush, were inevitable.
While many Republicans are embracing the fringe cultural positions emerging from this radical and elite milieu, pushing the view that America is a degenerate society that cannot be saved, elements of the left may have learned their lesson ... some Democratic Socialists of America chapters have become more involved in recent unionization drives, fights for workers rights, and campaigns against monopolistic corporate power. Its a focus not on posting but on materially supporting the working classand embracing core American values to do it.
The right is learning the opposite lesson. Far-right YouTuber Paul Joseph Watson suggested in 2020 that the right is the new punk rock. But that may not be to the right wings electoral advantage. Subcultures, by their very nature, exclude or look down on the bulk of the public and tend not to win electoral power, a lesson the left learned the hard way. Far-right billionaires can pump money into New York film festivals and sceney parties, but in doing so, they are unlearning the language of American majoritarian values. Even as the leftin fits and startsrelearns normalcy, the right is abandoning it.
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)Thanks.
It's hard to read, but important to understand.
ancianita
(36,009 posts)of America. It's important to understand that they intend to BURY DEMOCRACY AND EQUAL PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW. (caps for EMphasis, not yelling)
We need to fight everything about them from their lingo to their women control obsessions to their sexual, social, and economic criminality.
ananda
(28,854 posts)All of them totally piss me off and make me want to
spit crocodiles at them.
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)WE feel the anger and channel it into action against the madness.
tRUMP and his ilk are attacking the LAW ITSELF like they attacked the Capitol.
Fighting back for our own survival is a human right and responsibility in America.
As long as you don't actually rip anyone's face off and shove it up their keister, you're doing ok.
WANTING TO is understandable.
As a DEM I still FEEL rage, I am just adult enough that I know it doesn't justify going and buying a gun and shooting random people.
It's called sanity, rational thought, restraint and being a mature person who values life even in times of unprecedented chaos.
Stay strong and know you are NOT deranged, because what you SEE and KNOW is true.
The bullshit they peddle has to go and understanding that is NOT IN THE SLIGHTEST any mental lack on your part.
Joinfortmill
(14,408 posts)Response to albacore (Original post)
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AllaN01Bear
(18,105 posts)republianmushroom
(13,554 posts)26 months and counting
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,839 posts)Everyone of them had ODS.
heckles65
(548 posts)astonished that 10% of voters in either election cast their votes for him. I thought he was full of s___ back in the nineties.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,168 posts)I, and I would assume many others?, translate that naturally to mean - One who is deranged by Trump to the point you are a cult zombie who's brain is damaged and you can't even comprehend that he is actually stealing from, and taking advantage of you.
What does that tell you? You don't hear it much anymore from right wing pundits as it backfires when its used. Because most people would naturallly apply the "derangement" part not to those criticizing a lying, rude, narcissist. But those suckered in by him.
emulatorloo
(44,097 posts)Because Trumps Deranged Supportersare the problem our democracy faces, not voters like you and me.