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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat are the ages of those in the Gen X and Gen Z groups?
Is there now a Gen Y?
I get seriously confused and would like to know so I can study real polls correctly.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,264 posts)but I am a Baby Boomer, which is, I guess, before Gen X and Gen Y.
Sympthsical
(9,041 posts)Millennials are generally 1980-2000. Gen Z is after that.
Gen X is post-Boomer, so roughly 1965-1980.
There's some overlap in things, so a lot of people will categorize them based on cultural markers. For example, Gen X are considered to have had a 70s childhood. Millennials are often described as "Analog childhood, digital adulthood" because personal computing and the internet blew up and became widespread during our adolescence. Gen Z is often thought of as the post-9/11 generation.
Always some variance about dates and markers, but that's generally the gist of it.
róisín_dubh
(11,791 posts)To describe those of us born in the late-70s and early-80s, as we had the analog childhood and digital adulthood. I was born in 1977 and identify more wil millennials in most things I think.
LostOne4Ever
(9,286 posts)Born in the early 80s I remember beta-max players and a very analog early childhood.
WestMichRad
(1,317 posts)This from a USA Today article:
Baby boomers are anyone born from 1946 to 1964.
Generation X is anyone born from 1965 to 1980.
Millennials are anyone born from 1981 to 1996.
Generation Z is anyone born from 1997 to 2012.
And apparently they are calling the next group Generation alpha
Kennah
(14,234 posts)Celerity
(43,138 posts)promoters of the name use are non standard, and do overlap into the first part of Gen Alpha ( born 2013 to ???, but 2028 if we keep doing the 16 years to a Gen thing)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Z
Etymology and nomenclature
The name Generation Z is a reference to the fact that it is the second generation after Generation X, continuing the alphabetical sequence from Generation Y (Millennials). Other proposed names for the generation included iGeneration, The Homeland Generation, Net Gen, Digital Natives, Neo-Digital Natives, Pluralist Generation, Internet Generation, Centennials, and Post-Millennials. Psychology professor and author Jean Twenge used the term iGeneration (or iGen for short), originally intending to use it as the title of her 2006 book about Millennials, Generation Me, before being overruled by her publisher, Atria Publishing Group. At that time, there were iPods and iMac computers but no iPhones or iPads. Twenge later used the term for her 2017 book iGen. The name has also been asserted to have been created by demographer Cheryl Russell in 2009.
In 2014, author Neil Howe coined the term Homeland Generation as a continuation of the StraussHowe generational theory with William Strauss. The term Homeland refers to being the first generation to enter childhood after protective surveillance state measures, like the Department of Homeland Security, were put into effect following the September 11 attacks. The Pew Research Center surveyed the various names for this cohort on Google Trends in 2019 and found that in the U.S., the term Generation Z was overwhelmingly the most popular, from then on calling it Gen Z in their research. The Merriam-Webster and Oxford dictionaries both have official entries for Generation Z.
In Japan, the cohort is described as neo-digital natives, a step beyond the previous cohort described as digital natives. Digital natives primarily communicate by text or voice, while neo-digital natives use video, video-telephony, and movies. This emphasizes the shift from PC to mobile and text to video among the neo-digital population. Zoomer is an informal term used to refer to members of Generation Z. It combines the shorthand boomer, referring to baby boomers, with the "Z" from Generation Z. Zoomer in its current incarnation skyrocketed in popularity in 2018, when it was used in a 4chan internet meme mocking Gen Z adolescents via a Wojak caricature dubbed a "Zoomer". Merriam-Webster's records suggest the use of the term zoomer in the sense of Generation Z dates back at least as far as 2016. It was added to the Merriam-Webster dictionary in October 2021 and to Dictionary.com in January 2020. Prior to this, zoomer was occasionally used to describe particularly active baby boomers.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilhowe/2014/10/27/introducing-the-homeland-generation-part-1-of-2/?sh=fc014482bd67
that article starts it at 2005, and says he choose it:
The 2005 date remains tentative. You cant be sure where history will someday draw a cohort dividing line until a generation fully comes of age. But for now, 2005 is my best guess. History teaches that new generations first appear about one full phase of life, or about 18 to 24 years, after the first appearance of the last generation. Generational boundaries are also typically drawn 2 to 4 years before abrupt changes in the national mood. Millennials first appeared in 1982. That points to 2000 to 2006 as the opening window for the next generation. The reason I chose 2005 exactlyand again, this remains tentativeis that kids born in that year and after will recall nothing before Barack Obamas presidency, the financial meltdown of 2008, and the seemingly endless Great Recession that followed.
BUT, if that is his reason, then it should be 2006 (as some 2005 borns will remember (even if vaguely, but I myself started to read when I was 3 and I deffo recall the end of 1999 (the fake Millennium end, which actually ended on Dec 31, 2000, when we completed 2000 years since Dec 31, 1 BC flipped to January 1, 1 AD), a couple months after I turned 3, as I was born late 1996, the last Millennial birth year) the 2007-2009 global financial crisis and also the year of 2008 before Obama was elected (and sworn in January 20, 2009)
My own micro Gen, the Zillennials (roughly 1992 to 1998 born) ends at 1998 because to be a Zillennial you should have at least some vague memory of 9/11, and have been under 10 as well when it occured.
maxsolomon
(33,252 posts)That will never catch on. Sounds incredibly dystopian.
Celerity
(43,138 posts)eShirl
(18,480 posts)I'm MTV generation and graduated high school in the 1980's. Does that sound like a boomer to you?
LeftInTX
(25,150 posts)Johonny
(20,820 posts)The forgotten generation.
tinrobot
(10,887 posts)Approximately 1955-64. It was the "boomers" who didn't get to experience the 1960's. We were home watching cartoons while our older siblings went to Woodstock.
We came of age in the 70's with oil crises, Watergate, disco, SNL, and punk rock.
yardwork
(61,539 posts)keep_left
(1,780 posts)...their historical experience (the oil shocks, economic crises, deindustrialization, etc.) and the fact that they were too young to partake in the counterculture. Generation Jones is also known for ambition, social-climbing, and acquisitiveness. They were likely more represented among the "yuppies" and those that became neocons in their maturity, but that's highly debated.
There's a similar trend among Gen X. The older Xers (born 1970 and earlier) are often seen as having more in common with the later Boomers (Generation Jones); conversely, the younger Xers (born in the later '70s) are seen as closer in outlook to the Millennials (formerly called Gen Y). By the way, it's been suggested that Gen X should end at 1979, probably because that was an extremely eventful year historically (the crises in Central America, Iran, Afghanistan, the Carter "Crisis of Confidence" aka "Malaise" speech, etc.). You could argue that the '80s began in 1979.
I always wondered if the reason the historians and demographers came up with these new names (Millennials, "Zoomers", etc.) is because they were dumb enough to start at the end of the alphabet for Generation X! You only get two more generations after that before you have to rethink your whole naming strategy.
tinrobot
(10,887 posts)Just like with all generations, political affiliations are mixed. You can't generalize too much.
keep_left
(1,780 posts)The main thing to remember, however, is that these generational groupings are pretty crude categorizations. Some of them cover much larger spans of time than others do (the Boomers) or contain a much larger population (again, the Boomers), while some groupings are quite small by comparison (Gen X). You can only say so much about any particular generation that is specific; usually only the most broad generalizations are possible.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=17815396
You can only speak in broad generalities about any particular generational grouping. And these labels don't apply to individuals.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,907 posts)I was born in '66. My wife was born in '64. We do trend toward our specific generation by birthdate.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)The federal gov considers 1979 to be millennial for instance.
drray23
(7,619 posts)Baby boomers are anyone born from 1946 to 1964.
Generation X is anyone born from 1965 to 1980.
Millennials are anyone born from 1981 to 1996.
Generation Z is anyone born from 1997 to 2012.
MyMission
(1,849 posts)I have trouble keeping track, and have looked it up before.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/01/17/where-millennials-end-and-generation-z-begins/
I've . also looked at Wikipedia, which says that Gen Alpha is the current generation being born.
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)Gen Z is young at 11-26, and gen X is older at 43-58. Millennials are in-between at 27-42.
https://www.beresfordresearch.com/age-range-by-generation/
I personally find all of these labels to be useless, and often divisive.
BigmanPigman
(51,569 posts)Baby Boomers and Gen X since I am going to be 61. These labels are confusing and as you state "often divisive".
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)Until somebody rewrote history. It was supposed to be mostly people born in the 50s as far as I recall and then they changed it all the way up to 1964.
Just a bunch of bs imo.
BigmanPigman
(51,569 posts)That's how I have always thought of my boomer generation - that "someone" rewrote history about who was considered a boomer. The term, as I was taught, was coined for those of us who were born shortly after WWII ended and the troops came home and started a family. How can anyone consider someone born in 1964 with that connotation?
blogslug
(37,985 posts)Unlike "leading-edge boomers", most of Generation Jones did not grow up with World War II veterans as fathers, and, as they reached adulthood, there was no compulsory military service and no defining political cause, as opposition to United States involvement in the Vietnam War was for the older boomers. Their parents' generation was sandwiched between the Greatest Generation and the Baby Boomers. Also, by 1955, a majority of U.S. households had at least one television set, and so unlike Leading-Edge Boomers born from the mid 1940s to the early 1950s, many members of Generation Jones (trailing-edge boomers) have never lived in a world without televisionsimilar to how many members of Generation Z (19972012) have never lived in a world without personal computers or the internet,[14] or mobile phones.[15] Generation Jones were children during the sexual revolution of the 1960s and 1970s and were young adults when HIV/AIDS became a worldwide threat in the 1980s...
LeftInTX
(25,150 posts)My dad was Korea. He would have had to drop out of HS to enlist in WWII. We weren't the draftees generation. We feared tt, but it didn't hsppen.. Born in 1956
Tree Lady
(11,432 posts)left his job at 19 (just during war) He was born end of 1923.
I miss my dad but he was very political and got angry easy. He was a Kennedy democrat and took me to see Robert Kennedy driving through bay area few months before he was killed. He died a few months before Gore lost. Would not have made it through Bush or Trump without heart attack.
phylny
(8,368 posts)saved me the trouble!
I was born in 1958 and don't see myself as a "boomer."
I'll be sixty-five on May 5th. How did THAT happen?
ismnotwasm
(41,968 posts)Its the younger boomers, 1954-1964.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Jones
Tree Lady
(11,432 posts)daughter at 42 is a millennial same as my grandson 27 by my older daughter. Both act more like the generation above and below them.
Kennah
(14,234 posts)"The Fourth Turning" is a great read on the subject. This was a Thom Hartman recommendation.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,462 posts)I am 1st. Year of gen x
BigmanPigman
(51,569 posts)a Baby Boomer or a Gen Xer. I think I am in limbo, straddling both groups.
Polybius
(15,337 posts)I don't mean politics, I mean everything else. You guys don't like video games nearly as much as we do, and missed out on the toy boom of the 80's (what, no He-Man?). The culture is a lot different than us early 70's Xers.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,462 posts)I am goth,punk even have the anti aging powers of gen x. I look like a gen x.. I relate to younger gen x
Millenials,and a lot of gen z. My politics are in line with gen Z. Boomers somewhat but thier way of thinking sometimes rubs my fur the wrong way. Definately not traditional in any sense myself. My politics scares boomers,😹
Polybius
(15,337 posts)Unless you still played with them at an older age.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,907 posts)I was born in 1966. Serious video gamer. Love He-Man. Do not trend Boomer.
Polybius
(15,337 posts)That's how old you were when He-Man was in full swing in 1983. I myself was similar, stopping around 1990.
Atari and NES were great in the 80's, glad to see a fellow gamers.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,907 posts)My collection of 30-ish Thor Funko Pops is behind me in my classroom.
Polybius
(15,337 posts)But I don't play with them in the same way that I did in 1983. I miss the fun I had then.
Aristus
(66,294 posts)Its been a hell of a ride.
I feel so sorry for Gen Z. All theyve ever known is the spectacularly shitty 21st Century.
leighbythesea2
(1,200 posts)And I 2nd this. My daughter is millennial and stepsons are gen z. My daughter has gotten hit after hit, at key milestones in her adulthood.
She doing fine, but I grate at the millennials are fragile message. It was, and is, click bait.
LostOne4Ever
(9,286 posts)Some ways call me the last of Gen X some say first of the millennials.
Ultimately it is just a social construct for dividing people up and doesnt dictate anything about the person.