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Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
Mon May 8, 2023, 06:31 PM May 2023

Has FBI/DOJ been monitoring and ready to charge with seditious conspiracy or other planned

criminal activity against the plethora of hate groups currently operating in the US and communicating via Parlor etc. These organizations need to be brought down, communication/planning investigated and charged as domestic terrorists. Enough. Post 9-11 DHS enforceable laws should be adequate? We are in danger of massive loss of life by Nazi-worshipping ass wipes. It dovetails with Putin and Drumpf seeking to divide and loving the chaos that it brings, contributing to the division, largely based on misinformation on uncontrolled Russian and US dark web sites. We know this as it has been stated.
Please enlighten me if I have it wrong.

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Has FBI/DOJ been monitoring and ready to charge with seditious conspiracy or other planned (Original Post) Evolve Dammit May 2023 OP
I completely agree with you. Bluethroughu May 2023 #1
The coup and destruction of democracy damn near happened. We saw it all and 1/6 committee documented Evolve Dammit May 2023 #2
And the Secret Service erased. orthoclad May 2023 #5
You are right. That needs a complete investigation. Evolve Dammit May 2023 #7
I don't think they know what to do on several fronts bucolic_frolic May 2023 #3
Not disagreeing with any of that. Perhaps we are incapable of accountability and prosecution. Sad. Evolve Dammit May 2023 #11
The only groups they worry about orthoclad May 2023 #4
You are probably right and now I am really depressed. Damn. Evolve Dammit May 2023 #9
Get angry, not depressed. orthoclad May 2023 #10
Been angry since 2000 stolen election! Evolve Dammit May 2023 #12
They have weaponized... 2naSalit May 2023 #6
I don't understand why Garland/ Smith are slow-rolling it. Time is running out. Evolve Dammit May 2023 #8
I don't think they are slow rolling anything. 2naSalit May 2023 #13
Not debating that. The Magat Lago classified docs were a "slam dunk." The insurrection was 2 1/4 Evolve Dammit May 2023 #14
And by "slow rolling" you mean "intentionally....." brooklynite May 2023 #15
Too many. Why not concentrate on legislators who "allegedly" participated in the failed coup? usonian May 2023 #16
it certainly would. We seem to lack that scrutiny/oversight of elected officials, right up to SCOTUS Evolve Dammit May 2023 #18
K&R nt Roisin Ni Fiachra May 2023 #17

Bluethroughu

(5,153 posts)
1. I completely agree with you.
Mon May 8, 2023, 06:42 PM
May 2023

How much Treason needs to be done, before they arrest this orange pustule and his cancerous connections doing his bidding in Congress. He said it himself, leave it up to him and the Congressmen.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
3. I don't think they know what to do on several fronts
Mon May 8, 2023, 06:48 PM
May 2023

How do you separate the perps from the followers. How do you find the resources when you still have several hundred cases going from the insurrection? Has the political tide turned enough so that 2/3 of the public or so is with you? Even setting up the criteria to undertake such an operation is a daunting task. And the GOP House will fight you every step of the way.

orthoclad

(2,910 posts)
4. The only groups they worry about
Mon May 8, 2023, 06:55 PM
May 2023

are "Black Identity Extremists" like BLM and "special interest extremists" like Erin Brockovich.
DHS sent out a special bulletin from a "fusion center" informing law enforcement agencies that Erin Brockovich would be speaking at the site of the East Palestine toxic disaster, and warning of "potential terroristic threats from violent extremists surrounding activities planned by environmental activist Erin Brockovich in East Palestine".
https://www.wtrf.com/ohio-train-derailment/environmental-activist-erin-brockovich-named-in-ohio-law-enforcement-report-on-special-interest-terrorism-threat-in-east-palestine/
Yep. Erin Brockovich, threat to national security. 2023.

The FBI has targeted black liberation activity going back to its founding, including: sending letters to MLK that he should kill himself; the COINTELPRO program; and current anti-Black activities.
"In 2018 and 2019, the FBI conducted nationwide assessments of “Black identity extremists” under an intelligence collection operation it called “Iron Fist”, prioritizing these cases over investigations of far more prevalent violence from white supremacists and far right militants over that period, including mass shootings at a Pittsburgh synagogue and an El Paso shopping mall."
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/fbi-targets-new-generation-black-activists

And most recently, the FBI used the Proud Boys - including convicted seditionist Enrique Tarrio - as informants to spy on left-leaning protestors. Proud Boys complicit with FBI. Hmm.

It's OK If You're A RWNJ.

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
6. They have weaponized...
Mon May 8, 2023, 06:57 PM
May 2023

Our government and laws against us, that is why this is such a dilemma. We have to outsmart them by being better at using the tools of the law and government to defeat them.

It is our only option. If we want to still have a country, we had better get going in unison on it.

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
13. I don't think they are slow rolling anything.
Mon May 8, 2023, 07:16 PM
May 2023

Litigation/Due Process takes time in order to be done fairly and correctly. Armchair legal advisors don't have it right more than half the time so I think I'll leave it to the professionals on the inside for now. I don't need to know every detail of every last thing. I just need to know that I can trust the people I vote for not to sell me out when they get into office and they'll do their job.

We don't know everything they know. There are also many infiltrators and leftovers from the previous admin who are not so easily gotten rid of or found for that matter. And the mountain of criminal acts keeps growing exponentially with each lead. How would manage that? There are laws dictating how those people are dealt with and they know how to stay where they are and cause trouble. Think asshole dejoy and fuckwad santos or whatever he's going by today.

Seriously, we are teetering on the edge of something, I feel that it will be more like a great comeuppance for the criminal class. Meanwhile we have to do our job of holding our elected representatives to account as well locally. It does start there.

I don't have all the answers or even some but I know that I should be patient, justice is coming and the timing is not up to me. I feel confident in that and will until shown why I shouldn't.


Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
14. Not debating that. The Magat Lago classified docs were a "slam dunk." The insurrection was 2 1/4
Mon May 8, 2023, 07:34 PM
May 2023

years ago. I have worked with US Attorneys. They want the low-hanging fruit. ie. the stupid fucks that showed up at the behest of the Orange Anus that have been or will be, convicted. Where are the charges against anyone else??? They will soon (and already are) saying it is a political hatchet job to undermine the election and DOJ will back down on everything to avoid appearances of such. Sincerely hope I'm very wrong.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
15. And by "slow rolling" you mean "intentionally....."
Mon May 8, 2023, 07:45 PM
May 2023

"....continuing to collect evidence through the Grand Jury while continuing to prosecute and convict the Jan 6 insurrectionists at the Capitol"?

If only they knew about the blogosphere's opinion that all the evidence needed for a conviction was already in place?

usonian

(9,776 posts)
16. Too many. Why not concentrate on legislators who "allegedly" participated in the failed coup?
Tue May 9, 2023, 01:58 AM
May 2023

Might send a louder message (via the MSM) than a bunch of nobodys who couldn't orchestrate the coup attempt (hint)

Do these nobodys get encouragement from the lack of accountability of the ringleaders?

I think so.

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