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unhappycamper

(60,364 posts)
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 09:56 AM Jan 2012

Afghanistan 'will take 30 years to develop into proper democratic state'



Sir Simon Gass said that 352,000 Afghan Security Forces would be left in place but added that would be a 'high water mark' and funding might not remain for that number



Afghanistan 'will take 30 years to develop into proper democratic state'
By Duncan Gardham, Security Correspondent
6:30AM GMT 16 Jan 2012

Sir Simon Gass, a British diplomat, said the country has gone through 30 years of disastrous conflict which has destroyed infrastructure and institutions.

"It will take decades to recover from the destruction that was wrought over that period of time," he added.

Referring to a World Bank report about countries emerging from prolonged conflict, Sir Simon said they do not have strong institutions, democratic values, rule of law or lack of corruption.

"Those are not values that can be delivered in a short period of time. Typically they take 30 years or so in countries coming out of conflict," he added.
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Afghanistan 'will take 30 years to develop into proper democratic state' (Original Post) unhappycamper Jan 2012 OP
Du rec. Nt xchrom Jan 2012 #1
Hate to say this TigerToMany Jan 2012 #2
As long as the Taliban have any hold on the country there will be no freedom Marrah_G Jan 2012 #3
The same could be said for many of our "allies" that we haven't inflicted war on. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #4
They will never have democracy as long as they keep their backwards tribalism. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #5
Well, there's only one way to fix that gratuitous Jan 2012 #6
Yup, we gotta bomb them to hell quinnox Jan 2012 #7
 

TigerToMany

(124 posts)
2. Hate to say this
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:17 AM
Jan 2012

but with the Taliban in charge there was no way that Afghanistan was going to be democratic. Sure there might have been a revolution, but with a male-centered tribal culture it would have been a long time before that even happened. As we all know, women's rights are essential to modern democracy.

I think Obama has handled the conflict there with grace, intelligence and tact.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
3. As long as the Taliban have any hold on the country there will be no freedom
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:38 AM
Jan 2012

They are a group of men with absolutely no value to civilized society. I will unapologetically say I wish each and every one of them was dead, gone and unable to harm another man, woman or child. I think of all the cultures in the world, that one is the absolute worst for women and children and to a lesser extent, men without power.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
4. The same could be said for many of our "allies" that we haven't inflicted war on.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:54 AM
Jan 2012

Saudi Arabia comes to mind.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. Well, there's only one way to fix that
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 02:20 PM
Jan 2012

Send in the troops, bomb the living bejesus out of the place, and make the rubble bounce some more. And if 10 years of that doesn't work, try another 10 years. It's really the only solution we have to offer.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
7. Yup, we gotta bomb them to hell
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 02:24 PM
Jan 2012

until they start to see it OUR way. Damn those savages! Can't believe they have a different culture than us, the fine and noble Americans.

<sarcasm>

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