Florida's Trans Bathroom Ban Signed: Arrests To Follow Regardless Of Legal Gender Status

[Nevilledog]

https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/floridas-trans-bathroom-ban-signed

Today, Ron DeSantis posed with several children as he signed multiple laws targeting the transgender community. One law expands “Don’t Say Gay” to the 12th grade, bans books, and bans updating pronouns, making transition in a school environment much more difficult. Another uses obscenity laws to potentially target drag events, which has already led to pride parades being cancelled. Yet another bill bans gender affirming care for trans youth and bans nurse practitioners — the providers of nearly 80% of gender-affirming care — from treating trans adults. The most troubling bill, though, is a ban on transgender people in bathrooms that comes with criminal charges and jail sentences. The wording of the ban raises serious concerns that many transgender adults are in imminent danger of arrest once the law comes into effect.

House Bill 1521 will effectively give second-class citizen status to transgender people in Florida. The wording of the bill states that if a cisgender person is in the bathroom with a transgender person, an employee can tell the transgender person to leave. Should the transgender person not leave immediately for any reason, they will be charged with criminal trespass, which can carry sentences of up to 1 year in jail - likely a jail of the wrong gender identity, which will put trans people in immense danger of sexual assault.

While the provisions do not ban all bathroom usage, they cast a wide net over an alarming number of locations that would fall under definitions of “public” in the bill. This includes all buildings owned or leased by any governmental entity, educational institutions spanning from elementary schools to private colleges and universities, numerous hospitals owned by universities, many sports arenas, convention centers, city parks, beaches, airports, and more.

You can see the provisions on public bathrooms here:



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[roamer65]

1. The redux of "Jim Crow".

Sad, sad, sad.

[Hekate]

2. DeSantis' pilot project in fascism continues apace

[tanyev]

3. And the self-appointed morality police are going to have a field day reporting every person

whose looks they don't like.

[RKP5637]

4. Florida, working hard to be the ugliest state in the US. Another step in fascism, it is happening.

Some people think, oh, this definitely does not effect me ... but it does, it's another notch in the step toward fascism ... he's following the Nazi guidelines, and this is how it's done ... and then it builds.

[Johonny]

5. Florida makes committing hate crimes law of the land

[Initech]

18. And internet conspiracy theory bullshit public policy.

I'm sick of this crap. Fuck Alex Jones, fuck Tucker Carlson, fuck Libsoftiktok, 4chan, Q Anon, and all of the other right wing terrorists who made this a reality.

[Lovie777]

6. Bathroom police...........

[mackdaddy]

7. So who will be doing these "Crotch Checks"?

How will they decide who needs one?

Sounds like sexual assault by big government...

[allegorical oracle]

10. That's my question. Women's bathrooms have stalls. There are no urinals that can be viewed

without spying inside stalls. So who gets to knock on the stall door and ask a woman to prove she's not a guy? Talk about lawsuits...they "ain't" seen nothin' yet.

[Baitball Blogger]

8. So, do trans men who have to use the woman's

Room get to sue if they get harassed?

[Maraya1969]

13. Yea, Can't wait until a trans man who is seriously masculin goes into a women's bathroom.

I hope a bunch of them do it. Maybe at one of those "Chucky Cheese" type places where there are a bunch of kids,

Someone like this guy.

[IA8IT]

9. I've been at music events where stools in men's room were commandeered by women.

Relief was had by all and no charges filed.

RePUBICans can't stop worrying about what's happening in your pants.


VOTE VOTE VOTE

[Initech]

16. I'm so sick of internet conspiracy theorists writing public policy.

I have no doubt this bullshit that Desantis is passing originated in the dark corners of the internet, Fox News, and other right wing shit sources. But how do we stop it? It's fucking maddening.

[obamanut2012]

11. I feel really bad for butch women

I myself am "soft butch," but my "girls" are big enough they glance at me then my chest and look away (it still pisses me off they even look), but for butch, slim women? I feel so bad for them.

[sanatanadharma]

12. This will not sit well with the travel industry, nor will they stand for it.

Floridians, just being right-floridians* with profound pronoun confusions, will be harassing others, just being good tourists, whose ass just doesn't look quite correct.

* The opposite of good Floridians.

[jmowreader]

14. In the old days, expensive restaurants had restroom attendants

They would hand guests towels and soap, and clean the seat between guests so you always had a fresh bathroom experience.

In DeSantis’ Florida, a new breed of restroom attendant will arise. When you step into the anteroom, you will have to display your genitalia to this person and provide a DNA sample to ensure you are of the correct gender to enter the room where the toilets are.

[Initech]

15. Ron Desantis seems bent on going full Nazi.

[Freethinker65]

17. So can a cis gendered female be arrested for using the "men's" bathroom?

There have been times where long lines and necessity have forced me to use the Men's room. I usually have a male check for me, but there have been times when my UC decides to flare that I take my chances.

[ZonkerHarris]

19. #BoycottFlorida

[royable]

20. We could entirely do away with this mess if we had unisex restrooms like parts of Europe have,

and so I suspect this is done in other regions as well. The area for sinks and driers/towels is communal. There are genderless stalls that have toilets in them, with partitions and doors that run from floor to ceiling for privacy. There are also private stalls with baby changing tables. Off to the side of the communal area through swinging doors or a bend in a hallway is a separate room with urinals, that can't be seen from the communal area. Women and men (and anyone in-between or other) interact in the communal area with no fuss, because it's all perfectly normal to them to have that communal area. What could be simpler?