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Wed May 17, 2023, 01:42 PM

The truth about Russia, Trump and the 2016 election


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There have been four major investigations into Russian intervention in the 2016 presidential election and the FBI’s handling of the subject — a 2019 report released by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, a 2019 Justice Department inspector general report, a bipartisan report by the Senate Intelligence Committee issued in 2020 by a GOP-controlled Senate, and now a 2023 report released by special counsel John Durham. All told, the reports add up to about 2,500 pages of dense prose and sometimes contradictory conclusions.

But broad themes can be deduced from a close reading of the evidence gathered in the lengthy documents, as well as indictments and testimony on related criminal cases.

Russia tried to swing the 2016 election to Trump

In early 2017, days before Donald Trump became president, the Obama administration released an Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) that made the following statement:

“We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S. presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process, denigrate Secretary [Hillary] Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess [Russian President Vladimir] Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump.”

Trump immediately rejected that conclusion, but both the Mueller report and the Senate investigation affirmed it. Mueller concluded that Russian government actors successfully hacked into computers and obtained emails from people associated with the Clinton campaign and Democratic Party organizations, and then publicly disseminated those materials through various intermediaries, including WikiLeaks, to sow discord in the United States, hurt Clinton and help Trump.


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Reply The truth about Russia, Trump and the 2016 election (Original post)
Nevilledog May 2023 OP
Johnny2X2X May 2023 #1
triron May 2023 #2
orthoclad May 2023 #3
c-rational May 2023 #4

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Wed May 17, 2023, 01:43 PM

1. Tried?

They didn't try, they did.

Trump won the election, Russia succeeded in their efforts.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #1)

Wed May 17, 2023, 01:49 PM

2. Precisely. But MSM won't say that. Why??

And they didn't just use 'influence ' operations either. They mucked with the voting process.

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Response to triron (Reply #2)

Wed May 17, 2023, 02:19 PM

3. Try saying "corporate" media

Why are we aping the phrasing of Fox?

The problem is not that media outlets are "mainstream". The problem is that just a few corporations and billionaires own 90+% of media outlets. Local papers are castrated and the weeklies are gone.

Just a few voices feed us our view of the world.

One of these is Zuckerberg. He collaborated, illegally, with Cambridge Analytica to micro-target ads in critical locations. This gave Trape the electoral college.

Billionaires stick together, more than countries do.

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Response to orthoclad (Reply #3)

Wed May 17, 2023, 05:57 PM

4. +1000

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