The Fire this Time

[H2O Man]

"Those born to die by fire never drown." -- Irish proverb

Mid-August last summer, Rudy Guiliani was informed that his status had changed from "subject" to "target" in the Georgia investigation of the for defendent's attempt to overthrow the Georgia 2020 presidential election. Rudy, who was scheduled to testify to the grand jury several says later, had to decide if he would take the fifth, as he had been the defendent's attorney and point man in Georgia.

Yesterday, it was reporter that the defendent's legal team had sent a letter to Attorney General Merrick Garland that both complained about Jack Smith, and requested a meeting. There are reports that Mr. Smith's investigation into the defendent's stealing classified documents and refusing to return the is winding down. I will speculate that the defendent was notified that he is a target, and is being offered an opportunity to testify before the grand jury, to explain exactly why he took the classified documents, and what he planned to do with them.

[Buns_of_Fire]

1. Garland is becoming very popular with these legal teams.

Look at how many requests for "meetings" he's getting!

[H2O Man]

6. I think that

a number of the rats in Georgia are looking to cooperate, too. Funny how that works when one learns they are at risk of indictment.

[gordianot]

2. At one time in his life Rudy knew better.

Dementia and alcohol compounded with unrealized ambition are a hell of a way to go. It turns out Rudy was not that different from those he prosecuted in another life. Any sentence in prison will be a death penalty for Rudy who deserves no more sympathy than Trump.

[H2O Man]

7. Right.

I remember when he was a prosecutor at the Southern District in New York. His public reputation was a tad better than his actual being, but people respected him.

[kentuck]

3. It was a reactionary letter.

Something is coming down the pike.

[H2O Man]

8. Yes.

There is no other reason for this sad letter.

[Kid Berwyn]

4. KGB Agent Orange is setting up his lawyers.

When the historical record, facts, law show the traitor to be crazy, corrupt and criminal, all he can do is claim personal stupidity misdirected by a crummy and expensive legal team.

Send him to the Agonizer Booth.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

5. Narcissists are perpetual victims, never take responsibility. . . . nt

[H2O Man]

9. Yep!

Tim Parlatore's statement last weekend was interesting. The guy was attempting to assist the defendent as best he could. No surprise about Boris Epshteyn. (Did he change his last name? I thought it was"Badenove" when he was on Bullwinkle?)

[usonian]

13. You know, I wouldn't mind if he were sent to the Orgasmatron. (permanently, that is)

It would keep him off the streets and silent (outside the orgasmatron, which is all that matters)
And he might leave women alone.

When the goal is peace and progress, vengeance serves no real good.
The Buddha might have said this, but not knowing if he did, I'll take credit.

[H2O Man]

15. As tempting as

it might be, I don't think the prophet Jesus would throw a stone at him. A good case can be made for shunning him, though.

[usonian]

16. Of course, no prophet who has seen past the our vain illusions would throw stones.

We live with the illusion that one can gain by taking away from another.

That's why I chose the orgasmatron. Why not the Iron Maiden? It doesn't matter to me.

Anything to keep him off the streets, just like horse manure.

Go away happy or go away angry. JUST GO AWAY.

[H2O Man]

22. For some time,

I've agreed with Lawrence O'Donnell that the defendent is extremely unlikely to be incarcerated, even after being convicted of serious charges that would land anyone else in federal prison. That it would be far more likely some type of "house arrest." While I've seen more and more intelligent people recently saying the defendent's behaviors could resuly in incarceration, I'd be fully satisfied with conviction an house arrest.

[malaise]

10. I think you are correct

and would like to use a great Jamaican proverb

Fyah deh a muss muss tail, ‘im tink a cool breeze

When they light the cane fields on fire, the muss muss (as in mice and rats) think the rustling is the wind, but the fire is approaching their tails.😀😀😀.

[H2O Man]

11. It's interesting that

some of humanity's greatest wisdom comes from two small islands!

I could be wrong, of course, but the timing leads me to believe I'm correct. I have been, every once in a while. But the timing and behavior are indicators that we will witness a severe melt-down this summer.

[malaise]

12. I am looking forward to the meltdown with glee

😀😀

[H2O Man]

14. I have friends who

are frustrated by what they consider the slow pace that Jack Smith is going at. As was pointed out on Ari Melber's show this week, this is due to his wanting to know why the defendent stole specific documents, and exactly what he was planning to do with the. I'd add "what he already did with some of them." In my opinion, Smith already has a good idea, but wants to nail it down completely. I also think there are some still missing, that the defendent placed elsewhere -- perhaps in other people's hands.

I tell my friends that there has been what to the public seems a slow build-up. But that's because there are not leaks. It will soon hit the tipping point, and things will increase in pace. The defendent's legal team will, of course, attempt to delay events. But they will be unable to slow the melt-down this summer.

[malaise]

17. Slow and steady wins the race

By the time they're finished with the Slobfather only the lunatic fringe will still be his fans.
My preferred date for the documents indictment is Wednesday June 14 - a perfect birthday present for you know who.

[H2O Man]

20. Interesting.

I recently spoke with someone far smarter than me -- something many people would say fits my every communication! -- and I said I was thinking mid-to-late July. She said that there are indicators it might be in the middle of June.

[malaise]

21. Now wouldn't it be

Lovely

All I want is to lock him up😀😀😀

[H2O Man]

23. Indeed, it would!

[EndlessWire]

18. Something going on.

I'm in the group that thinks something is imminent. It seems like a request to see Garland is like a last ditch effort to avoid indictment. Those that know say that it is not at all unusual to request such a meeting by litigants, but Garland should simply refer them back to Jack. Most commentators think that Garland will not interfere with this process of at arm's length from the Special Prosecutor.

So, all the "I had the right to take them," "they're mine," "I declassified them with my mind," etc. means nothing. The only thing left is, "Jack! I'll tell you where the missing docs are!"

Keep a watch on the former pres plane, because that's all that's left.

[H2O Man]

19. The "dress rehealsal"

being reported in the news is huge. It seems that Mr. Smith has most likely known of this for much longer that the media & public. It is damning evidence of consciousness of wrong-doing.

I've seen a number of people saying "it all comes down to Garland." Actually, he has left the decision on indicting up to Smith. Though he will certainly review Smith's conclusions, unless there is a glaring error, he will not say anything, for he correctly wants to keep a safe distance for obvious reasons.

And every time the defendent speaks publicly -- the nonsense you quote -- the worse it will be for him in court.

[spanone]

24. 👍🏼...K&R...👍🏼

[H2O Man]

25. Thank you!