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Botany

(70,483 posts)
Fri May 26, 2023, 10:34 AM May 2023

Who doesn't think that some of the stolen documents @ Merde a Logo wound up in Ivana's grave @ ....

... Trump's N.J./Bedminster golf club? I have seen "internet stories" that boxes of documents were moved
prior to the FBI's search of Merde a Logo and after Ivana's passing that boxes were transported from Trump's
Florida golf properties to his N.J. property @ Bedminster.






That is a lot of people to carry Ivana's ashes which I doubt weigh more than 5 to 10 pounds.

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Who doesn't think that some of the stolen documents @ Merde a Logo wound up in Ivana's grave @ .... (Original Post) Botany May 2023 OP
They are of no use to him there. Ocelot II May 2023 #1
Exactly. zuul May 2023 #18
I wouldn't be surprised if Rand Paul helped deliver some of them to Putin. TheBlackAdder May 2023 #30
It's disgraceful that he buried her there instead of... brush May 2023 #2
Why didn't her children demand different? Bettie May 2023 #13
TFG should be buried under the men's room stalls of the NJ Turnpike's Vince Lombardi Rest Area. TheBlackAdder May 2023 #31
He would make digital copies for selling Jarqui May 2023 #3
They aren't relics Johnny2X2X May 2023 #4
I hear that, but I just don't think they would pay $2 billion for copies Walleye May 2023 #10
Why? Johnny2X2X May 2023 #28
Because photos can be altered and nobody trusts anybody Walleye May 2023 #33
Wouldn't it been simpler to burn them? marble falls May 2023 #5
I think you're right. newdayneeded May 2023 #26
Normally, I'd think that was pretty far-fetched PatSeg May 2023 #6
I agree that it would have been easier to take digital images of the documents and then burn them .. Botany May 2023 #7
Plus, he is so pathologically possessive, PatSeg May 2023 #24
Convinced he had a right to take documents at will, agingdem May 2023 #8
That's why... 2naSalit May 2023 #21
Trump was desperate to get his filthy tiny hands on agingdem May 2023 #25
Along with... 2naSalit May 2023 #27
I also think the files, along with the Kim Jong Un love letter, agingdem May 2023 #29
Frankly, I think it is one of the stupidest "theories" put forth about TFG AZSkiffyGeek May 2023 #9
Please tell me what you really think. Botany May 2023 #11
Damn, That looks good.I think I just heard my stomach growl Walleye May 2023 #16
I'm thinking... 2naSalit May 2023 #22
I was imagining 30 years from now Geraldo Rivera III, hosting a show that opens Ivana's is coffin Walleye May 2023 #12
I keep going back to "Jimmy Hoffa is buried in Giants Stadium endzone" AZSkiffyGeek May 2023 #14
Yes, good pop news reference Walleye May 2023 #15
And if documents are needed Ivana is dug up and reburied, dug up and reburied. betsuni May 2023 #17
+++ emulatorloo May 2023 #23
There is no evidence she was cremated. Beatlelvr May 2023 #19
I don't. onenote May 2023 #20
This was an idiotic comment when it wa first made and it's idiotic now... brooklynite May 2023 #32

Ocelot II

(115,659 posts)
1. They are of no use to him there.
Fri May 26, 2023, 10:36 AM
May 2023

It’s more likely that at least a few wound up at Putin’s dacha.

brush

(53,763 posts)
2. It's disgraceful that he buried her there instead of...
Fri May 26, 2023, 10:40 AM
May 2023

a decent cemetery. Why didn't her three children demand different?

Such a sorry family.

Bettie

(16,084 posts)
13. Why didn't her children demand different?
Fri May 26, 2023, 11:20 AM
May 2023

Because when you are raised without love or care, you turn into what they are.

They don't care. They are incapable of love, everything is a transaction, because they were raised by people to whom everything is transactional.

Johnny2X2X

(19,022 posts)
4. They aren't relics
Fri May 26, 2023, 10:51 AM
May 2023

They’re simply pieces of paper. Easily photographed and saved off so they can be destroyed.

People keep talking about them like they’re some durable good that has to be preserved. All it would take to give them to the Saudis is to give someone with a camera phone access to them for an hour. After that they’re out there and can simply be burned.

newdayneeded

(1,955 posts)
26. I think you're right.
Fri May 26, 2023, 12:24 PM
May 2023

If the goal would be to make them dissappear. hiding them is not as permanent as a pile of burned ashes.

PatSeg

(47,366 posts)
6. Normally, I'd think that was pretty far-fetched
Fri May 26, 2023, 10:56 AM
May 2023

but with Trump, anything is possible. His mind works in very strange ways and he could do something like that just out spite. He is truly that petty.

Meanwhile, I think it is more likely that he has stashed documents at some of his other properties. There are so many to choose from. They could be finding documents long after he is gone.

Botany

(70,483 posts)
7. I agree that it would have been easier to take digital images of the documents and then burn them ..
Fri May 26, 2023, 11:01 AM
May 2023

.... but he might have thought he needed to keep them in order to trade, sell, or barter them for something
or other.

PatSeg

(47,366 posts)
24. Plus, he is so pathologically possessive,
Fri May 26, 2023, 12:20 PM
May 2023

I think he just needs to "own" them and a digital image would not satisfy his compulsive desires. Not everything he does is transactional. Some of it is reminiscent of an entitled hoarder with the emotional age of a three year old. We can see that in how many times he says, "They are mine, I have every right".

Meanwhile, I'm not sure that he even understands the value of some of the documents, being he couldn't be bothered to sit through the daily presidential briefings. Who knows, maybe some of his foreign contacts DO know their value and they may have instructed him as to what to keep, but I still think he went through and spitefully grabbed anything he could get his hands on.

agingdem

(7,837 posts)
8. Convinced he had a right to take documents at will,
Fri May 26, 2023, 11:05 AM
May 2023

Trump had no problem haphazardly displaying them in his MAL office, no problem sharing them with aides and hotel guests, certain no one would come looking for them..but when the National Archives politely asked for the documents return, there was no way in hell Trump was going to give back what was his (“MINE!)..he had, after all, declassified them via magic wand and mind-meld..but when his lawyers warned him they were not his to keep, Trump went into shift/move/hide mode, only retuning those he deemed less important and smugly assumed he had put one over on the National Archives and the DOJ…not so fast you lying thieving conman POS!

2naSalit

(86,508 posts)
21. That's why...
Fri May 26, 2023, 11:53 AM
May 2023

Patel was placed at the Archives after the election, I think. He was there to cover for the removal of docs until they were out of office at least. Maybe muddy up or learn how the record keeping works to mess with that too. They meant to rip every institution to shreds and they did a pretty damaging job of it.

agingdem

(7,837 posts)
25. Trump was desperate to get his filthy tiny hands on
Fri May 26, 2023, 12:24 PM
May 2023

the Russia election interference files and I suspect that’s why Kash Patel and John Solomon were tasked with scouring and removing the Mueller documents from the Archives..

2naSalit

(86,508 posts)
27. Along with...
Fri May 26, 2023, 12:40 PM
May 2023

A whole lot of other info. Remember, they recovered thousands of documents and that wasn't everything so he was collecting info for nefarious purposes to enrich and empower himself.

agingdem

(7,837 posts)
29. I also think the files, along with the Kim Jong Un love letter,
Fri May 26, 2023, 01:23 PM
May 2023

Last edited Sat May 27, 2023, 11:02 AM - Edit history (1)

the Sharpie hurricane map, anything he could steal from the Oval Office, were intended for display in Trump’s “presidential library”…

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,003 posts)
9. Frankly, I think it is one of the stupidest "theories" put forth about TFG
Fri May 26, 2023, 11:05 AM
May 2023

And belongs in creative speculation, if anywhere.

betsuni

(25,449 posts)
17. And if documents are needed Ivana is dug up and reburied, dug up and reburied.
Fri May 26, 2023, 11:34 AM
May 2023

A very convenient storage place, plus the guys digging her up and putting her back could spill the beans any time. Then Ivana gets mad at being dug up all the time and haunts the golf course. Customers hear a moaning "Don't get mad, get even" while playing and stop going because it makes them paranoid about their own marriages.

Sounds like a good plan!

Beatlelvr

(618 posts)
19. There is no evidence she was cremated.
Fri May 26, 2023, 11:50 AM
May 2023

According to Snopes.
A funny thing though....she asked donations be made to Big Dog Rescue. Donald famously hates dogs.

onenote

(42,680 posts)
20. I don't.
Fri May 26, 2023, 11:50 AM
May 2023

Why would he bury some and keep others? Do you think he planned to dig them up at some point and that no one would notice?

brooklynite

(94,483 posts)
32. This was an idiotic comment when it wa first made and it's idiotic now...
Fri May 26, 2023, 01:35 PM
May 2023

Point 1. The days of spies in trench coats handing over valises of documents are long over. Anything you want to sell or give away can be scanned and sent digitally.

Point 2. Why would you hide something in a grave in public view that you’d have to dig up to do…something

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