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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWho doesn't think that some of the stolen documents @ Merde a Logo wound up in Ivana's grave @ ....
... Trump's N.J./Bedminster golf club? I have seen "internet stories" that boxes of documents were moved
prior to the FBI's search of Merde a Logo and after Ivana's passing that boxes were transported from Trump's
Florida golf properties to his N.J. property @ Bedminster.
That is a lot of people to carry Ivana's ashes which I doubt weigh more than 5 to 10 pounds.
Ocelot II
(115,659 posts)Its more likely that at least a few wound up at Putins dacha.
The stolen documents are in Russia and/or Saudi Arabia by now.
TheBlackAdder
(28,181 posts)brush
(53,763 posts)a decent cemetery. Why didn't her three children demand different?
Such a sorry family.
Bettie
(16,084 posts)Because when you are raised without love or care, you turn into what they are.
They don't care. They are incapable of love, everything is a transaction, because they were raised by people to whom everything is transactional.
TheBlackAdder
(28,181 posts)Jarqui
(10,122 posts)and destroy the originals.
Johnny2X2X
(19,022 posts)Theyre simply pieces of paper. Easily photographed and saved off so they can be destroyed.
People keep talking about them like theyre some durable good that has to be preserved. All it would take to give them to the Saudis is to give someone with a camera phone access to them for an hour. After that theyre out there and can simply be burned.
Walleye
(30,998 posts)The paper themselves is useless. Meaningless. Photos of the pages has the same exact value.
Walleye
(30,998 posts)marble falls
(57,063 posts)newdayneeded
(1,955 posts)If the goal would be to make them dissappear. hiding them is not as permanent as a pile of burned ashes.
PatSeg
(47,366 posts)but with Trump, anything is possible. His mind works in very strange ways and he could do something like that just out spite. He is truly that petty.
Meanwhile, I think it is more likely that he has stashed documents at some of his other properties. There are so many to choose from. They could be finding documents long after he is gone.
Botany
(70,483 posts).... but he might have thought he needed to keep them in order to trade, sell, or barter them for something
or other.
PatSeg
(47,366 posts)I think he just needs to "own" them and a digital image would not satisfy his compulsive desires. Not everything he does is transactional. Some of it is reminiscent of an entitled hoarder with the emotional age of a three year old. We can see that in how many times he says, "They are mine, I have every right".
Meanwhile, I'm not sure that he even understands the value of some of the documents, being he couldn't be bothered to sit through the daily presidential briefings. Who knows, maybe some of his foreign contacts DO know their value and they may have instructed him as to what to keep, but I still think he went through and spitefully grabbed anything he could get his hands on.
agingdem
(7,837 posts)Trump had no problem haphazardly displaying them in his MAL office, no problem sharing them with aides and hotel guests, certain no one would come looking for them..but when the National Archives politely asked for the documents return, there was no way in hell Trump was going to give back what was his (MINE!)..he had, after all, declassified them via magic wand and mind-meld..but when his lawyers warned him they were not his to keep, Trump went into shift/move/hide mode, only retuning those he deemed less important and smugly assumed he had put one over on the National Archives and the DOJ not so fast you lying thieving conman POS!
2naSalit
(86,508 posts)Patel was placed at the Archives after the election, I think. He was there to cover for the removal of docs until they were out of office at least. Maybe muddy up or learn how the record keeping works to mess with that too. They meant to rip every institution to shreds and they did a pretty damaging job of it.
agingdem
(7,837 posts)the Russia election interference files and I suspect thats why Kash Patel and John Solomon were tasked with scouring and removing the Mueller documents from the Archives..
2naSalit
(86,508 posts)A whole lot of other info. Remember, they recovered thousands of documents and that wasn't everything so he was collecting info for nefarious purposes to enrich and empower himself.
agingdem
(7,837 posts)Last edited Sat May 27, 2023, 11:02 AM - Edit history (1)
the Sharpie hurricane map, anything he could steal from the Oval Office, were intended for display in Trumps presidential library
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,003 posts)And belongs in creative speculation, if anywhere.
Botany
(70,483 posts)Walleye
(30,998 posts)2naSalit
(86,508 posts)And I just ate, wasn't as pretty as all that.
Walleye
(30,998 posts)AZSkiffyGeek
(11,003 posts)Walleye
(30,998 posts)betsuni
(25,449 posts)A very convenient storage place, plus the guys digging her up and putting her back could spill the beans any time. Then Ivana gets mad at being dug up all the time and haunts the golf course. Customers hear a moaning "Don't get mad, get even" while playing and stop going because it makes them paranoid about their own marriages.
Sounds like a good plan!
Well done!
Beatlelvr
(618 posts)According to Snopes.
A funny thing though....she asked donations be made to Big Dog Rescue. Donald famously hates dogs.
onenote
(42,680 posts)Why would he bury some and keep others? Do you think he planned to dig them up at some point and that no one would notice?
brooklynite
(94,483 posts)Point 1. The days of spies in trench coats handing over valises of documents are long over. Anything you want to sell or give away can be scanned and sent digitally.
Point 2. Why would you hide something in a grave in public view that youd have to dig up to do
something