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Uganda passes law allowing death penalty for gay people (Original Post) Marius25 May 2023 OP
We should cut off all funds immediately. Demsrule86 May 2023 #1
Ugh... Mike Nelson May 2023 #2
+1,000,000. dchill May 2023 #4
well-intentioned funds meant to support civil society NGOs Eugene May 2023 #10
Agreed Takket May 2023 #3
IMO, we should not give money to government that abuse human rights walkingman May 2023 #5
Tragic. LGBTQ+ was already illegal, homosexuality already punishable Hortensis May 2023 #6
It's a crime against humanity. EndlessWire May 2023 #7
and lots of "thumbs up" on the msn article BlueWaveNeverEnd May 2023 #8
I never know how to interpret those The Revolution May 2023 #9
its meant to rate the article, not be a vehicle for person's opinion on the subject BlueWaveNeverEnd May 2023 #12
The online hate is getting worse. Initech May 2023 #14
Totally fucking disgusting. Initech May 2023 #11
Exactly, no aid for Uganda. sarcasmo May 2023 #13
Agreed. Cut all aid to Uganda NOW. Enough of this bullshit. beaglelover May 2023 #15
Statement from President Joe Biden on the Enactment of Uganda's Anti-Homosexuality Act LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #16
If the Christian Taliban had their way, this would be happening here in the US. roamer65 Jun 2023 #17

Mike Nelson

(9,951 posts)
2. Ugh...
Mon May 29, 2023, 10:27 AM
May 2023

... I don't know how we give them aid, but I would quickly redirect it from the government to organizations that could help gay and poor people in Uganda.

Eugene

(61,872 posts)
10. well-intentioned funds meant to support civil society NGOs
Tue May 30, 2023, 01:29 PM
May 2023
UK government funding anti-LGBTQ+ organisation in Uganda, says report

The Inter-Religious Council of Uganda, which is openly homophobic, has been a direct recipient of UK aid money

The UK government has been helping to fund the work of a virulently homophobic religious organisation in Uganda, whose leaders have backed a proposed law that would make identifying as gay a criminal offence, a report has found.


https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2023/apr/26/uk-government-funding-anti-lgbtq-organisation-in-uganda-says-report

https://archive.is/Ce9VW

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Progressive cash for the anti-LGBTQI backlash?

With Uganda on the verge of introducing an extreme anti-LGBTQI law
including the death penalty, international aid donors have serious
questions to answer. Their funding flows connect taxpayers in Europe and
North America to conservative religious organisations in the east African
country that have long opposed LGBTQI rights and called for harsher
legislation. Millions have come from donors that have committed to
feminist foreign policies and to supporting LGBTQI rights globally; some
of this money has even been unexpectedly coded as support for feminist
organisations and gender equality. Recipients include the Inter-Religious
Council of Uganda (IRCU) that previously lost US aid over its anti-LGBTQI
activities.


https://centreforfeministforeignpolicy.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Progressive-cash-for-the-anti-LGBTQI-backlash_.pdf

Takket

(21,560 posts)
3. Agreed
Mon May 29, 2023, 10:31 AM
May 2023

We should not be economically supporting regimes that engage in human rights abuses. They said they should resist "imperialist pressure". Well, if they don't want our "pressure" then they probably don't want us using our money to "pressure" them into doing what we want either, so clearly they do not want it.

walkingman

(7,597 posts)
5. IMO, we should not give money to government that abuse human rights
Mon May 29, 2023, 10:48 AM
May 2023

Our Foreign Policy it has been bad my entire life. Not sure who makes these decisions and why?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. Tragic. LGBTQ+ was already illegal, homosexuality already punishable
Mon May 29, 2023, 11:00 AM
May 2023

by terms up to life in prison. The "aggravated" in aggravated homosexuality that could be given the death penalty refers to acts that are probably punishable by incarceration in every nation on the planet, or almost all.

Uganda's a mess, its dreadful government in power for decades. Can't say what good would come of withdrawing all our aid. In this complex world it's not unbelievable that there would be something.

But that withdrawing aid would lead to great suffering and deaths of many, many innocent people is unquestionable. How about those in the refugee camps alone? Currently ill and malnourished children dying?

Fwiw, a big part of our influence in Uganda is spent trying to protect and advance human rights of all especially vulnerable groups. LGBTQ+ one of many, so just imagine.

On the plus side, those who care here can do something: Donate to organizations that have established reliable records of helping gays in Uganda.

EndlessWire

(6,513 posts)
7. It's a crime against humanity.
Tue May 30, 2023, 01:59 AM
May 2023

I don't support it, and I agree that aid should be eliminated as a sanction against the law. I'll bet not all the money we donate to Uganda (our tax dollars at work) makes it down to hungry children, anyway. You have to draw the line, somewhere. Everybody is somebody's child.

The Revolution

(766 posts)
9. I never know how to interpret those
Tue May 30, 2023, 01:18 PM
May 2023

Is a thumbs up "yes I agree/approve with the subject/action discussed" or is it "This is a good article and has important information"?

I don't want to upvote something bad, but I do want to upvote good journalism. I just don't know which I'm voting for. Maybe it just shouldn't have voting.

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(7,912 posts)
12. its meant to rate the article, not be a vehicle for person's opinion on the subject
Tue May 30, 2023, 03:14 PM
May 2023

BUT...every article from African American , Hispanic, women point of view are severely thumbs down, so it's my opinion thumbs down is used to give opinion on the subect

Initech

(100,063 posts)
14. The online hate is getting worse.
Tue May 30, 2023, 03:59 PM
May 2023

And I see a lot of that shit in comments sections too. Companies need to get better about policing their content. Fuck what the MAGA conspiracy theorists want.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,130 posts)
16. Statement from President Joe Biden on the Enactment of Uganda's Anti-Homosexuality Act
Fri Jun 2, 2023, 02:04 PM
Jun 2023

Uganda needs to be sanctioned for this act



https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/05/29/statement-from-president-joe-biden-on-the-enactment-of-ugandas-anti-homosexuality-act/

The enactment of Uganda’s Anti-Homosexuality Act is a tragic violation of universal human rights—one that is not worthy of the Ugandan people, and one that jeopardizes the prospects of critical economic growth for the entire country. I join with people around the world—including many in Uganda—in calling for its immediate repeal. No one should have to live in constant fear for their life or being subjected to violence and discrimination. It is wrong.

Since the Anti-Homosexuality Act was introduced, reports of violence and discrimination targeting Ugandans who are or are perceived to be LGBTQI+ are on the rise. Innocent Ugandans now fear going to hospitals, clinics, or other establishments to receive life-saving medical care lest they be targeted by hateful reprisals. Some have been evicted from their homes or fired from their jobs. And the prospect of graver threats—including lengthy prison sentences, violence, abuse—threatens any number of Ugandans who want nothing more than to live their lives in safety and freedom.

This shameful Act is the latest development in an alarming trend of human rights abuses and corruption in Uganda. The dangers posed by this democratic backsliding are a threat to everyone residing in Uganda, including U.S. government personnel, the staff of our implementing partners, tourists, members of the business community, and others. As such, I have directed my National Security Council to evaluate the implications of this law on all aspects of U.S. engagement with Uganda, including our ability to safely deliver services under the U.S. President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR) and other forms of assistance and investments. My Administration will also incorporate the impacts of the law into our review of Uganda’s eligibility for the African Growth and Opportunity Act (AGOA). And we are considering additional steps, including the application of sanctions and restriction of entry into the United States against anyone involved in serious human rights abuses or corruption.

The United States shares a deep and committed partnership with the people of Uganda. For more than 60 years, we have worked together to help millions of Ugandans live healthier, more productive lives.

Our programs have boosted economic growth and agricultural productivity, increased investments in Ugandan businesses, and strengthened our trade cooperation. In total, the U.S. Government invests nearly $1 billion annually in Uganda’s people, business, institutions, and military to advance our common agenda. The scale of our commitments speaks to the value we place on this partnership—and our faith in the people of Uganda to build for themselves a better future. It is my sincere hope that we can continue to build on this progress, together, and strengthen protections for the human rights of people everywhere.

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roamer65

(36,745 posts)
17. If the Christian Taliban had their way, this would be happening here in the US.
Fri Jun 2, 2023, 02:37 PM
Jun 2023

Along with every other minority, including Jews.

Just like Nazi Germany.

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