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LymphocyteLover

(5,638 posts)
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 10:55 PM Jun 2023

Had a weird interaction with a mad "former Democrat" on twitter

She claims that she was a life-long Dem but is furious with Obama and Biden for helping Trump steal the 2016 election from Hillary. She's convinced that Obama/Biden were complicit in helping Trump steal the 2016 election and forced Hillary to conceded. Then they kept her from running in 2020. Also they didn't do anything about the intel that said Russia was helping Trump. she didn't have any clear reason why they would do this except they are weak, or something. She seems to think Obama could have prevented Trump from wining the election or something. She was pretty furious about it still. No arguing with her.

I just never heard of this theory and then someone being so mad about it and was wondering if any of you have encountered people who beoieve this.

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Had a weird interaction with a mad "former Democrat" on twitter (Original Post) LymphocyteLover Jun 2023 OP
Right jcgoldie Jun 2023 #1
This 👆🏽👆🏽 👆🏽 👆🏽 live love laugh Jun 2023 #3
Did you remind her leftieNanner Jun 2023 #2
She pointed this out first but somehow blamed Obama. Crazy. LymphocyteLover Jun 2023 #11
Musk's Twitter is just warming up the disinfo campaign for next year. live love laugh Jun 2023 #4
Yep. 2020 will be a cake walk of disinfo compared to what's on the horizon next year Cheezoholic Jun 2023 #7
Yeah, it's gonna be ugly LymphocyteLover Jun 2023 #12
Back in 2017, there were comments that the Obama administration followed rules that karynnj Jun 2023 #5
Honestly, unless she's going to vote for a GOPer or not vote, I'm OK with that. Silent Type Jun 2023 #6
I say liar liar pants on fire to this person. PortTack Jun 2023 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Jun 2023 #9
Like the supposed "Democrats" who thought the TPP was a diabolical Obama plot to screw the betsuni Jun 2023 #10
Agree. It's maddening to try to argue with such people. LymphocyteLover Jun 2023 #13
Some people get a notion fixed in their head and igonore reality JHB Jun 2023 #14
Haha, good point. LymphocyteLover Jun 2023 #17
She is lying. How can you not blame Trump and his actions? UCmeNdc Jun 2023 #15
Right? That is what I said. Also, blame Republicans for electing that monster. LymphocyteLover Jun 2023 #16
I have not heard that particular story... Caliman73 Jun 2023 #18

leftieNanner

(15,067 posts)
2. Did you remind her
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 11:20 PM
Jun 2023

That Obama wanted to announce the Russian interference in the election, but McConnell threatened him?

live love laugh

(13,081 posts)
4. Musk's Twitter is just warming up the disinfo campaign for next year.
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 11:23 PM
Jun 2023

Last edited Mon Jun 5, 2023, 01:23 AM - Edit history (1)

Twitter will be a cesspool for the 2024 election.

Cheezoholic

(2,006 posts)
7. Yep. 2020 will be a cake walk of disinfo compared to what's on the horizon next year
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 01:10 AM
Jun 2023

The 2024 run up is going to be like watching a 60's LSD themed psychedelic B movie while you're on the Brown Acid.

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
5. Back in 2017, there were comments that the Obama administration followed rules that
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 11:32 PM
Jun 2023

Republicans often skirt. One example is the Hatch Act that requires anyone, other than President and VP, from engaging in anything political. ( Note that HRC in 2012 and John Kerry in 2016 both avoided violating this. Yet in 2004, Condi Rice had a few events and in 2020, Mike Pompeo did.

In addition, the Obama administration DID put out that all the intelligence agencies were concerned for what they saw as Russian interference. This was referenced by HRC in one debate. However, they did not publicly put out stories that there was collusion between Russia and Trump. Not till AFTER the election did several bombshell stories come out.

Silent Type

(2,849 posts)
6. Honestly, unless she's going to vote for a GOPer or not vote, I'm OK with that.
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 12:06 AM
Jun 2023

Do think one has to be careful with allegations after Party conventions. trump deserved it. But Clinton did not.

Response to LymphocyteLover (Original post)

betsuni

(25,380 posts)
10. Like the supposed "Democrats" who thought the TPP was a diabolical Obama plot to screw the
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 03:55 AM
Jun 2023

American working class; that Obama was the one to take out the public option from the ACA (conspiracy theory of "beholden" to Big Insurance and Big Pharma, NEOLIBERAL THIRD WAY) when it passed the House and was only removed because Joe Lieberman and a few other senators wouldn't vote for it otherwise; that Obama was an imperialist warmonger because drones drones drones drones drones drones (any concern about drone warfare completely disappeared the instant Trump won). All bullshit.

Hillary had zero intention of ever running for office again after 2016, the idea anyone "kept her from running in 2020" is idiotic. Otherwise she wouldn't have written "What Happened" and wouldn't have finally not given a fuck and said what she thought.

A real Democrat knows these things. Who the hell wouldn't trust Obama, Hillary, Biden, Pelosi, etc.? Idiots!

JHB

(37,157 posts)
14. Some people get a notion fixed in their head and igonore reality
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 08:23 AM
Jun 2023

There are still people, even here on DU, that blame Kennedy and liberals and leftists for Carter losing in 1980.

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
15. She is lying. How can you not blame Trump and his actions?
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 09:01 AM
Jun 2023

Remember how Trump intentionally stood over Hillary in the debates? How can any real Hillary supporter not hate Trump and the Republicans more than anything else?
Unless you are really a Trump supporter in disguise?

LymphocyteLover

(5,638 posts)
16. Right? That is what I said. Also, blame Republicans for electing that monster.
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 04:14 PM
Jun 2023

Blaming him on Obama is demented.

Caliman73

(11,726 posts)
18. I have not heard that particular story...
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 04:22 PM
Jun 2023

Hillary Clinton certainly lost the election based on dirty tricks and foreign influence. That and 40 years of bullshit hatred and misogyny that started before Bill Clinton was even elected in 1992. Hillary Clinton had it right all those years ago about the "vast right wing conspiracy".

President Obama and Biden had nothing to do with Hillary's loss in 2016 and She didn't want to run again in 2020. I certainly wouldn't have wanted to after what she had to put up with.

It is sad that people presumably on our side fall victim to wacko ideas as well. Curious as to how or if she actually voted in 2020 and 2022.

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