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spanone

(135,828 posts)
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 04:23 PM Jan 2012

that damned liberal hollywood....

George Lucas Is Ready to Roll the Credits


This was a new feeling for George Lucas. He made a movie about a plucky band of freedom fighters who battle an evil empire — a movie loaded with special effects like no one had seen before. Then he showed it to executives from all the Hollywood studios. And every one of them said, “Nope.”

One studio’s executives didn’t even show up for the screening. “Isn’t this their job?” Lucas says, astonished. “Isn’t their job at least to see movies? It’s not like some Sundance kid coming in there and saying, ‘I’ve got this little movie — would you see it?’ If Steven (Spielberg) or I or Jim Cameron or Bob Zemeckis comes in there, and they say, ‘We don’t even want to bother to see it. . . .’ ”

Lucas sighs. It’s true that the movie, “Red Tails,” is a biopic about the Tuskegee Airmen rather than a space opera starring the Skywalker clan. But the snub implied that Lucas’s pop-culture collateral — six “Star Wars” movies, four “Indiana Jones” movies, the effects shop Industrial Light and Magic and toy licenses that were selling (at least) four different light sabers this Christmas — was basically worthless. When “Red Tails” opens in theaters on Jan. 20, it will be because Lucas paid for everything, including the prints.

Lucas, who is 67 and still in possession of the full pompadour, told me his story of rejection on a cold December morning at Skywalker Ranch, in Marin County, Calif. He was sitting on a maroon sofa in the animation studios, wearing his standard billionaire-casual outfit — a flannel shirt with rolled-up sleeves, jeans and Nikes — while Padmé Amidala, the heroine of the “Star Wars” prequels, peeked down from two paintings arranged on either side of his head.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/magazine/george-lucas-red-tails.html?pagewanted=print

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that damned liberal hollywood.... (Original Post) spanone Jan 2012 OP
I haven't read the entire column yet but I imagine this movie hits too close to home Uncle Joe Jan 2012 #1
Lucas gets a bad rap... SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #2
Methinks is no coincidence that movie is entitled "Red Tails" 99th_Monkey Jan 2012 #3
The 332nd Fighter Group painted the tails of their planes red. baldguy Jan 2012 #4
All the more poetic. 99th_Monkey Jan 2012 #5
Sometimes it isn't all about politics Spike89 Jan 2012 #6
And the fact it's about African Americans mzteris Jan 2012 #7
honestly sylveste Jan 2012 #9
We're going to see it Missy Vixen Jan 2012 #8

Uncle Joe

(58,355 posts)
1. I haven't read the entire column yet but I imagine this movie hits too close to home
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 04:40 PM
Jan 2012

during an election season, African Amiericans battling fascism.

The corporate media first, last and in the middle is the corporate media; the vast majority of which supports corporate supremacy based authoritarianism and corporate supremacist authoritarianism is the kissing cousin if not sibling of full blown fascism.

Thanks for thread, spanone.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
2. Lucas gets a bad rap...
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 04:40 PM
Jan 2012

Even if you don't enjoy his films his contributions to filmmaking are undeniable.

From ILM to THX Lucas has changed the way movies are seen and heard. A few months ago I was on the road and went to see a movie. The theater was old, the seats were uncomfortable, the projection and sound were crap. Seeing a movie there and then going to my home theater which is state of the art THX Digital was like night and day.

I'm looking forward to Red Tails.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
3. Methinks is no coincidence that movie is entitled "Red Tails"
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 06:02 PM
Jan 2012

The article does not mention this, but I can't help think it was Lucas' little joke,
as in being an "answer" to that gawd-aweful movie called Red Dawn. lol

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
5. All the more poetic.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 06:43 PM
Jan 2012

I grew up watching war plane "dog fights" ... movies .. I'm sure it
will bring back lots of memories when I see it.

Spike89

(1,569 posts)
6. Sometimes it isn't all about politics
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 07:06 PM
Jan 2012

I'll probably watch the movie and enjoy it, but I'm well out of the demographic range that theaters chase. The OP actually provides (obliquely) ample clues as to why the studios may have been lukewarm at best. Light sabers sell because Star Wars attracts the young. WWII is now a "period piece" and quite frankly, the History channel has pretty much covered that war so heavily that very few people who are interested in it haven't had their fill.
Again, I'm not saying the movie isn't likely to be good, just that the studios probably know it isn't likely to compete well with "The Hobbitt", any stupid rom-com, or the latest raunchy bachelor/bachelorette fest.

mzteris

(16,232 posts)
7. And the fact it's about African Americans
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 07:11 PM
Jan 2012

Their contribution to history and their fight for equal rights has nothing to do with this movie being panned. Riiiiiight...

sylveste

(197 posts)
9. honestly
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:59 PM
Jan 2012

from the previews it just doesn't look that good, too cartoonish. besides i saw it the first time, when it was called "The Tuskegee Airmen."
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114745/

Missy Vixen

(16,207 posts)
8. We're going to see it
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 07:18 PM
Jan 2012

Husband is late 40's. I'm - ahem - over 40. We're seeing it with a couple in their 30's on Saturday. One of the Tuskegee Airmen lives in the Seattle area. My husband would die happy to even shake the guy's hand.

I'm not so much for action-adventure movies, but the Tuskegee Airmen are heroes. I'm glad George Lucas has sufficient money to bankroll this movie. I'm hoping that some of those who don't want to see some of the genres you mentioned give it a try.

C'mon, American public, make the studios eat their words...

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