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A Prayer Mural...
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When U.S. District Court Judge Ronald R. Lagueux issued his decision to rule in favor of Ahlquist, he went out of his way to praise her for her brave stand for constitutional values.
The Court refrains from second-guessing the expressed motives of the Committee members, but nonetheless must point out that tradition is a murky and dangerous bog. While all agree that some traditions should be honored, others must be put to rest as our national values and notions of tolerance and diversity evolve. At any rate, no amount of history and tradition can cure a constitutional infraction. The Court concludes that Cranstons purposes in installing and, more recently, voting to retain the Prayer Mural are not clearly secular. Plaintiff is clearly an articulate and courageous young woman, who took a brave stand, particularly in light of the hostile response she has received from her community.
But the ruling of the court hasnt stopped relentless threats of violence and ridicule from her classmates, who have taken to using social media to vent their hate and rage. Here is a but a small sample of the kinds of things these Christians are saying courtesy of JesusFetusFajitaFishsticks:
May that little, evil athiest teenage girl and that judge BURN IN HELL!
yeah, well i want the immediate removal of all atheists from the school, how about that?
Jessica Ahlquist may have won her case, but shes going straight to hell. #Godovereverything
I hope theres lots of banners in hell when your rotting in there you atheist fuck #TeamJesus
If this banner comes down, hell i hope the school burns down with it!
U little brainless idiot, hope u will be punished, you have not win sh..t! Stupid little brainless skunk!
Fuck Jessica alquist Ill drop anchor on her face
definetly laying it down on this athiest tommorow anyone else?
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http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01/17/high-school-girl-threatened-with-violence-by-christian-classmates-after-suing-school-to-remove-a-prayer-mural/
msongs
(67,365 posts)Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)Mariana
(14,854 posts)You can't really be surprised. This is nothing new or unusual. Not by a long shot.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)This is a New England school?
I'm sure the whole community is very proud of these hateful children.
Pab Sungenis
(9,612 posts)the worse the spelling and grammar?
Maybe fewer religious banners and more hours in the classroom might have a benefit.
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)marasinghe
(1,253 posts)experience points to the contrary.
and these reptiles are sociopaths; don't think otherwise, for a moment.
the degree of pathology might vary; but not the base condition.
Pab Sungenis
(9,612 posts)their sociopathic rantings would be spelled correctly and grammatically correct.
marasinghe
(1,253 posts)which is to annoy all & sundry in every way they can. including - the misspelling of words & the misconstruing of grammar, to irritate those of us who believe in a modicum of civilized behavior.
eShirl
(18,479 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)dimbear
(6,271 posts)would it be correct to put quotes around those terms?
Pab Sungenis
(9,612 posts)are not behaving in a Christian manner. And as a Christian I object to having them lumped in with me.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)No True Scotsman and all that....
Kurmudgeon
(1,751 posts)Then you'll maybe understand in future that it takes more than just saying you're a Christian.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)and the rest are not Christians.
How conveeeeeenient.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Not to mention the true villains, ie the fucking intolerant atheist minority.
It's important, however, that the true christians who are pissed off at the fucking intolerant atheist minority not be conflated with the phony christians who are pissed off at the fucking intolerant atheist minority.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Thats 100% bullshit and you know it.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)....that doesn't mean he has accepted them.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)....yet don't know a fig of what they wrote about.
I'm an agnostic, but I know that these people don't follow any of the teachings of Jesus. Would you agree that what they say and what they do don't match?
mr blur
(7,753 posts)took longer than expected.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Guess that means Ghandi must have been a hateful, selfish bigot somewhere in his teachings.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)It doesn't have any impact on what were or weren't the teachings of "Jesus" if "Jesus" actually existed.
Ann Coulter is a Deadhead. Does that mean Jerry Garcia was personally responsible for every dumb-fuck thing that lady has ever said? No. Does that mean that I, as another Deadhead, like being lumped in with Ann Coulter in any way, shape, or form? No. Does Ann Coulter's attitude even remotely exemplify some of the shit *I* got out of listening to the Grateful Dead? No.
But she's STILL a Deadhead. because she likes the Dead and furthermore she identifies herself that way. Same with "Christians". Although these a-holes are not indicative of ALL "Christians", merely saying every bigot, shitwit and asshole who self-identifies as a "Christian" (and in case you haven't noticed, there's quite a few of them in this country) isn't really a "Christian" doesn't make it so.
Martin Luther King was a Christian. These people are Christians.
Deal with it.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)My point was about Jesus embracing them.....if he could theoretically do such a thing in a religious/higher power/afterlife context that they believe in. I see nothing in his teachings that tells me they are working their way into his good graces, as much as they chant his name.
By the way, being a fan of a band's music, and embracing a religious ideaology is a fairly shaky comparison. Sean Hanitty plays Bruce Hornsby's "That's Just The Way It Is" as his theme song. Does that make any sense?
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)"Jesus".
However, that said, I do grok the irony of self-proclaimed Christians threatening to crucify people.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)It's like when a well-meaning conservative like Rick Santorum says that legal gay marriage will lead to people marrying their toasters, all of a sudden folks start yabbering about "slippery slope arguments".. it's funny!
I guess it might have something to do with the fact that it actually IS a slippery slope argument... naaaah, ya think?
Sort of how the inevitable protests regarding "not REAL Christians" lend themselves to "No True Scotsman" fallacy comparisons.
Because they are.
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)by the police for criminal threatening.
obamanut2012
(26,047 posts)The school and authorities are investigating.
get the red out
(13,460 posts)By the look of these comments from the Christian students, they weren't becoming enlightened in any way.
aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)Christians are by far the most evil and violent single demographic group in the history of this country.
cpwm17
(3,829 posts)But that is way over the top. You are condemning over half of all Americans, and a very diverse group of Americans.
Since Christians make up such a large percentage of Americans, it is natural that a significant percentage of bad behavior will come from this group. Some of it will even be motivated by their religion.
'Christian' is just a label that includes a very diverse group of people that know and believe a few facts about their religion. Really it doesn't mean much.
Since their religion puts few demands on the faithful, and claims to reward them with eternal life while claiming to punish the non believers with infinite punishment, quite a few scum bags will find their religion attractive. But that seems to be the case for all religions, even if the other religions make different claims.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)discrimination or bigotry in their lives....
This young girl is very brave.
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)rurallib
(62,387 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Nutfuckery idjits.
davsand
(13,421 posts)McCollum v. Board of Education went all the way to the US Supreme court back in 1947. That family suffered a great deal of abuse because of it. There was an excellent documentary made about it titled The Lord Is Not On Trial Here Today. Watch it if you can. Seriously.
http://www.pbs.org/programs/lord-is-not-on-trial-here-today/
It takes enormous courage to stand up sometimes. My heart goes out to Jessica Ahlquist and her family.
Laura
Ecumenist
(6,086 posts)Aida F
(15 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)I'm sure that's what "Jesus" would do, lol.
yodermon
(6,143 posts)my head just exploded on so many levels.
eom
RainDog
(28,784 posts)I mean...
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)runny shitstains in the underwear of humanity. How utterly disgusting and revolting.
Jessica Ahlquist is a brave and principled young woman and deserves nothing but respect.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)I suppose Christianity is also a "religion of peace"? Good grief, as if we needed any more religions of peace. Those damned religions of peace give us so much violence.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)Feel the love.