trump should not get Secret Service protection in prison

[ecstatic]

Take it to the Supreme Court if need be, but no. Just no. How would that even be fair to the SS agents? They'd be serving a prison sentence too. Enough.

[Zeitghost]

1. They can pull shifts along side the other guards

Or we can pass a law removing protection from convicted felons or something along those lines.

Denying it by degree is not how things should be done.

[Hassler]

2. He's a billionaire. He can hire his own security.

[Irish_Dem]

30. I don't think people can hire security to protect them when they are sent to prison.

[Emile]

3. I see no reason for secret service for a traitor. We

have prison guards anyhow.

[Grasswire2]

4. solution: Put him in solitary, his only needed SS protection a food taster.

Gitmo might be appropriate.

[relayerbob]

18. That, or Supermax

[2naSalit]

5. They won't be there with him...

His care and feeding can be transferred to the Bureau of Prisons and the US Marshal Service and that's that needs to happen.

[C_U_L8R]

6. A federal penitentiary is federal protection.

He'll get all he deserves.

[FakeNoose]

7. This is why I believe Chump won't get a prison sentence

He'll get a "house arrest" sentence and he'll wear a cuff while playing golf, etc. The secret service guys can deal with that I'm sure.

Any SS guys who get hired to protect Chump should be carefully vetted by the Department of Justice. No more Maga-buddies running his errands for him while they're getting paid a salary from Uncle Sam.

[ecstatic]

9. I'm no longer OK with that. He needs to be behind bars alongside his proud boys

Let them protect him. I don't want my tax dollars paying for a traitor's SS protection in prison.

[Maru Kitteh]

32. Has nothing at all to do with what you or I or anyone else wants. Not about our wants.

[Bev54]

12. If a country like USA cannot figure out how to put a criminal ex-president in prison

what the hell does that say to the rest of the world. Many countries have managed to do so without all the whinging.

[Rhiannon12866]

22. +100!

Exactly!

[lame54]

36. If that cuff keeps accurate golf scores...

That would be Trump's prison

[Silent Type]

8. That will be a big argument in sentencing I bet. House arrest more likely.

[cannabis_flower]

23. Ok, house arrest

Just not his house. Get a 2 bedroom 1 bath house in a middle class area. No cable TV. Restricted internet. The prison bureau decides his groceries. Restricted visitation. Only those on his list, just like in prison. Only on certain days between certain hours. Oh and his mail is monitored. Just like prison except at a house.

[lame54]

38. Plenty of empty prisons in the U.S.

[RockRaven]

10. If you had a nickel for all of the "shoulds" about the prison system that are not...

AND you had a few bucks, you could buy one Coke.

[Recycle_Guru]

11. I agree. new rule: if ex-president is convicted of felony, they lose SS protection

[malaise]

28. THIS n/t

[mike_c]

13. I would think that being *in a prison under constant guard*...

...would do as much as humanly possible to protect him while he is punished. Stick him in a cell by himself. Feed him through a slot in the door. Let the SS prep his meals and inspect his cell whenever they want to. Put him on 24/7 suicide watch with a pair of guards outside his cell. What more can anyone do to protect him? To paraphrase the shit gibbon himself, his keepers shouldn't be so nice to criminals.

[Tree Lady]

14. Personally I think they should strip him of SS

and his pension if convicted. But if that doesn't happen put the SS in an office with a camera on outside of his room.

If they don't make an example of him then its game over. I have noticed lately more and more republicans are starting to speak out. I think they know we need to set things right. It's the fringe right that yells the loudest making us think it's all republicans.

[Stinky The Clown]

15. He'd be dead very fast.

Someone who hates him.

Someone wanting the fame of being his killer.

Someone looking to advance in a gang hierarchy.

Many other reasons to do it.

He would need some special accommodation, and I would support that. I don't want a martyr. I want a feeble, forgotten old man who dies alone of a painful chronic disease.

[Kablooie]

19. I'd bet a lot of felons are MAGA.

He could have the cleanest, shiniest ass in the prison.

[Stinky The Clown]

21. Look at our shameful prison population. I'd bet the majority are not MAGAts

[EndlessWire]

25. As stated above

SuperMax.

Honestly, who would choose prison over living in another country? Just soft rendition his doughy ass, and let's be done with him. We could breathe fresh air. We don't want him back. He wouldn't have to hardly hide at all.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

26. No, he wouldn't

Not if he were in a Supermax.

People really need to catch up on the newer prison systems out there. They're not all open bars facing a hall anymore. They're not all open access for most of the prisoners anymore.

They've changed to account for high-risk prisoners.

Really.

[ecstatic]

33. Lol. I'll Google it. Eventually. nt

[relayerbob]

16. Put the ones that helped Trump during the insurrection in there

Problem solved

[Kablooie]

17. It's not in the Constitution.

It’s a law made in 1965 so it can be amended to exclude protecting a felonious ex pres.

[WarGamer]

20. If convicted.... he'll be sentenced to hard time at Mar-a-Lago with an ankle monitor.

[Kennah]

24. Penthouse cell block build at the SS HQ with a riverfront view. Perfect prison.

[tman]

27. trump won't serve 1 day in prison.

The system has his back, in that regard.

[Think. Again.]

29. I used to think...

...that Secret Service for ex-presidents was also about keeping an eye on them to make sure they don't sell secrets or something.

I realize now either I was wrong or the Secret Service has become completely incompotent since 2016.

In all seriousness, if he's convicted and sentenced to incarceration, Gitmo would be the most appropriate holding facility.

It was specifically built to securely hold people of international interest who have seriously harmed us and may still pose threats to our nation, and need to be kept away from the general prison population for one reason or another.

And maybe he could see his maralago from there.

[Irish_Dem]

31. If sent to prison, the Bureau of Prisons would take over protection.

It is really quite simple.

Trump has the American people over a barrel by pretending he cannot be sent to prison.
It is nonsense, of course he can be sent to prison IF we have the will to do so.

[Lettuce Be]

34. Seems he should be safe, in prison. Why would he need additional security?

I have to agree. If there are prison guards, then he is guarded, right? What good would more Secret Service people do? They'd be in the way.

Options? Exile would be nice, but since he'd never shut up, it wouldn't work. Home confinement won't work because he'd cheat. He needs to be locked up.

I'd imagine the stress of not being in control may solve the problem, though.

[Rob H.]

35. According to lawyer Glenn Kirschner

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(look him up on YouTube--he's been great at explaining everything in plain English, which is hard to do given all the different indictments) there are facilities that house "high value detainees," such as terrorists and members of organized crime, in which case he wouldn't technically need Secret Service protection. Assuming I understood Kirschner correctly, all of Trump's activities would be controlled and monitored by the Federal Bureau of Prisons.

One of the last things I'd like to see would be home detention because it's not really a punishment for someone with a large property to roam around in. I don't think it'd act as much of a deterrent to anyone who might consider in the future attempting to do what Trump did, either.

[moonshinegnomie]

37. put him in the supermax

that will keep him safe....