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ItsjustMe

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KNR No words. niyad Sep 2023 #1
....yes AZ8theist Sep 2023 #59
KnR. iluvtennis Sep 2023 #2
"I have never been happier, you made my life" Prairie_Seagull Sep 2023 #3
Thank you. These are the memories we should be honoring today. n/t TygrBright Sep 2023 #4
THIS malaise Sep 2023 #33
He also served in the British and US armies and fought in the Battle of Ia Drang Ex Lurker Sep 2023 #5
And NOT A WORD about him from Big Media back then - just a loop of Rudy Colludy cosplaying peppertree Sep 2023 #8
Are you sure about that? mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2023 #21
Thanks for posting.. mountain grammy Sep 2023 #30
his name is familiar -- i remember hearing about this guy orleans Sep 2023 #28
I'm fortunate enough to have an autographed copy of the book. COL Mustard Sep 2023 #43
A True Warrior Captain_New_York Sep 2023 #6
It would have been an honor to have met him. Beacool Sep 2023 #12
Many forgotten hero's that day. MANY. republianmushroom Sep 2023 #7
A true hero. Beacool Sep 2023 #9
But do they want his image and story used to promote right wing bullshit? Effete Snob Sep 2023 #11
Wow!! Beacool Sep 2023 #13
Great point. Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2023 #29
I'm glad you posted this mountain grammy Sep 2023 #31
Generalizations like this are dangerous. Sure, it's good to be reminded that Martin68 Sep 2023 #36
Also, the guy WAS an authority Effete Snob Sep 2023 #39
Right, Rescorla was the expert in security just as there were medical experts JI7 Sep 2023 #58
That Twitter account then goes on to tell people to spread viruses and carry guns Effete Snob Sep 2023 #10
👍🏼...K&R...👍🏼 spanone Sep 2023 #14
A fine example of true heroism. What a shame he died while saving other lives. Vinca Sep 2023 #15
Another K&R ProfessorGAC Sep 2023 #16
Tears. What a hero and what a horrible, horrible loss. chowder66 Sep 2023 #17
I feel a bit ignorant as this is the 1st time I have read anything on his story. K&R Tom Yossarian Joad Sep 2023 #18
Thank you Wild blueberry Sep 2023 #19
One can only weep question everything Sep 2023 #20
Thank you for this. Not all heroes wear capes. LoisB Sep 2023 #22
I question if any of MSM will even mention his name today KS Toronado Sep 2023 #23
Well, WE remember him today, thanks to honored sentinels in our DU midst. calimary Sep 2023 #25
I've never heard this story. Why should people in the media have heard it? Martin68 Sep 2023 #37
Rick Rescorla was also a war hero, although he would never have referred to himself that way COL Mustard Sep 2023 #24
K & R...nt Wounded Bear Sep 2023 #26
A True Hero AmBlue Sep 2023 #27
Wow. Hotler Sep 2023 #32
Rest well Sir. BigOleDummy Sep 2023 #34
Wonderful story. Thanks for sharing. Martin68 Sep 2023 #35
If you want to read about Rescorla, read this. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2023 #38
A really wonderful read, even with the sad ending we already know about. calimary Sep 2023 #48
i never knew this story. barbtries Sep 2023 #40
To my knowledge COL Mustard Sep 2023 #44
that's what the OP said I believe. barbtries Sep 2023 #45
Reminded me of John P O'Neil SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2023 #41
Oh my ... Delphinus Sep 2023 #42
💕🕯️🕊️😇🙁 Mahalo Rick Rescorla Cha Sep 2023 #46
Incredible act of selflessness SouthernDem4ever Sep 2023 #47
I never 3auld6phart Sep 2023 #49
Amazing! Thanx for posting. JohnnyRingo Sep 2023 #50
Unfortunately, the person who tweeted this went on to use it to rail against COVID restrictions... MyNameIsJonas Sep 2023 #51
Damn 3auld6phart Sep 2023 #52
Really bummed me out following the rest of his thread. MyNameIsJonas Sep 2023 #54
It's the person that tweeted it that is shit. The guy Rick Rescorlo is still a hero JI7 Sep 2023 #55
Yes. Never claimed otherwise. MyNameIsJonas Sep 2023 #56
.. Historic NY Sep 2023 #53
Heart Of A Soldier swong19104 Sep 2023 #57
Sometimes 'when you know, you know'. God bless him Joinfortmill Sep 2023 #60

niyad

(120,328 posts)
1. KNR No words.
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 10:40 AM
Sep 2023

AZ8theist

(6,537 posts)
59. ....yes
Tue Sep 12, 2023, 04:56 AM
Sep 2023

iluvtennis

(20,905 posts)
2. KnR.
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 10:48 AM
Sep 2023

Prairie_Seagull

(3,800 posts)
3. "I have never been happier, you made my life"
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 10:59 AM
Sep 2023

With weeping respect, I will say no more.

TygrBright

(20,987 posts)
4. Thank you. These are the memories we should be honoring today. n/t
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 11:00 AM
Sep 2023

malaise

(278,341 posts)
33. THIS
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 04:36 PM
Sep 2023

Rec

Ex Lurker

(3,921 posts)
5. He also served in the British and US armies and fought in the Battle of Ia Drang
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 11:09 AM
Sep 2023

peppertree

(22,850 posts)
8. And NOT A WORD about him from Big Media back then - just a loop of Rudy Colludy cosplaying
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 11:22 AM
Sep 2023

But then - Rick Rescorla's story didn't fit the Bush narrative as well.

mahatmakanejeeves

(61,199 posts)
21. Are you sure about that?
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 12:20 PM
Sep 2023
8. And NOT A WORD about him from Big Media back then - just a loop of Rudy Colludy cosplaying

But then - Rick Rescorla's story didn't fit the Bush narrative as well.

Rick Rescorla

{snip}

Memorials and tributes

{snip}

Nevertheless, Rescorla's activities during the September 11 attacks were quickly brought to national attention by the news media, including a detailed account by Michael Grunwald in the October 28, 2001 edition of The Washington Post of Rescorla's life and "epic death, one of those inspirational hero-tales that have sprouted like wildflowers from the Twin Towers rubble."[23] Other memorials and tributes to Rescorla include:

{snip}

[23] Grunwald, Michael (28 October 2001). "A Tower of Courage". The Washington Post. Archived from the original on 21 October 2017. Retrieved 16 November 2021.

{snip}

mountain grammy

(27,324 posts)
30. Thanks for posting..
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 04:11 PM
Sep 2023

When I saw the OP, I thought it sounded familiar. Yes, this guy was something.. and his memory and actions shouldn't be taken over by right wing never comply bullshit.

What a story!

orleans

(35,089 posts)
28. his name is familiar -- i remember hearing about this guy
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 02:45 PM
Sep 2023

i googled

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0482544/?ref_=ttpl_ov_i

and from his wiki page:

Post-9/11 media coverage
Rescorla was the subject of a 2002 biography, Heart of a Soldier by James B. Stewart.[44]
Rescorla was the subject of a 2005 documentary entitled The Man Who Predicted 9/11. The film was shown on Channel 4 in the UK and the History Channel in the United States.[45]
Amanda Ripley's 2008 book, The Unthinkable: Who Survives When Disaster Strikes—and Why, profiles Rescorla.[46]
Stewart's book became the basis of an opera of the same name by Christopher Theofanidis. It was premiered by the San Francisco Opera on September 10, 2011, in a production starring Thomas Hampson as Rescorla

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Rescorla#Post-9/11_media_coverage

COL Mustard

(6,927 posts)
43. I'm fortunate enough to have an autographed copy of the book.
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 06:34 PM
Sep 2023

I met the authors (both of whom have since passed away) at a book signing in 1991 or 92. I didn’t know Rick’s story, of course, until much later but he was an amazing man.

Captain_New_York

(162 posts)
6. A True Warrior
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 11:10 AM
Sep 2023

CPT Rescorla served in the British & South African military before joining the U.S. Army and fighting n the battle of Ia Drang immortalized in the book and movie “We were Soldiers”.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Rescorla

Beacool

(30,329 posts)
12. It would have been an honor to have met him.
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 11:37 AM
Sep 2023

Rescorla had boosted morale among his men in Vietnam by singing Cornish songs from his youth, and now he did the same in the stairwell, singing songs such as one based on the Welsh song "Men of Harlech":

Men of Cornwall stop your dreaming;

Can't you see their spearpoints gleaming?

See their warriors' pennants streaming

To this battlefield.

Men of Cornwall stand ye steady;

It cannot be ever said ye

for the battle were not ready;

Stand and never yield!


republianmushroom

(17,869 posts)
7. Many forgotten hero's that day. MANY.
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 11:17 AM
Sep 2023

Beacool

(30,329 posts)
9. A true hero.
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 11:32 AM
Sep 2023

His family must be so proud of him. Rest in peace, sir.


 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
11. But do they want his image and story used to promote right wing bullshit?
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 11:35 AM
Sep 2023


What's ironic is that the point is that the people he saved DID follow his order to leave.

Beacool

(30,329 posts)
13. Wow!!
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 11:39 AM
Sep 2023

I hope that his family didn't approve that his story be used as RW propaganda.


Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,036 posts)
29. Great point.
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 02:53 PM
Sep 2023

RWers love a "don't trust authorities" anti-government, anti-expert, anti-intellectual message. But Resorcola was an expert and authority. All humans seem to be prone to oversimplification, confirmation bias, etc., but RWers are true experts in that. Another irony.

mountain grammy

(27,324 posts)
31. I'm glad you posted this
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 04:17 PM
Sep 2023

because his story shouldn't be hijacked and we should mention that always, and the story IS NOT about not disobeying orders, it's about being prepared and knowing your job, and doing your job.... all things right wingers know NOTHING about.

Martin68

(24,633 posts)
36. Generalizations like this are dangerous. Sure, it's good to be reminded that
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 05:01 PM
Sep 2023

Last edited Tue Sep 12, 2023, 08:02 AM - Edit history (1)

the authorities aren't always right. But at the same time, when they are right and someone decides to disobey their orders, more people can die. It all depends on the situation. The authorities tell people in Yellowstone to stay away from the Bison. Good advice. Authorities on planes tell the passengers to stay seated and put their seatbelts on. Good advice. Authorities tell people not to panic and to walk calmly from a burning building. Good advice. This meme encourages jackasses to be jackasses.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
39. Also, the guy WAS an authority
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 05:18 PM
Sep 2023

Him getting the people out of the building relied on the fact that it was his position to tell them to do that, and to have them do it.

So it is doubly ironic to use him for the purpose of saying "Don't listen to people who usually know what they are doing" since he happened to be such a person.

He was the head of security for Morgan Stanley for a reason.

Look at the picture. He's standing there with a bullhorn, telling people what to do.

So people should have said, "I'm not like the other sheeple. I'm not leaving this building because he says to. I'm keeping my ass planted right here."

JI7

(90,681 posts)
58. Right, Rescorla was the expert in security just as there were medical experts
Tue Sep 12, 2023, 04:29 AM
Sep 2023

that were advising with Covid.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
10. That Twitter account then goes on to tell people to spread viruses and carry guns
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 11:33 AM
Sep 2023

I see that you posted the image, to avoid the unpleasant reason why that Twitter account is using the image and story of a dead hero to promote his right wing bullshit:

spanone

(137,586 posts)
14. 👍🏼...K&R...👍🏼
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 11:42 AM
Sep 2023

Vinca

(51,140 posts)
15. A fine example of true heroism. What a shame he died while saving other lives.
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 11:43 AM
Sep 2023

ProfessorGAC

(70,209 posts)
16. Another K&R
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 11:45 AM
Sep 2023

Important to remember him.

chowder66

(9,850 posts)
17. Tears. What a hero and what a horrible, horrible loss.
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 11:50 AM
Sep 2023

Tom Yossarian Joad

(19,263 posts)
18. I feel a bit ignorant as this is the 1st time I have read anything on his story. K&R
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 11:51 AM
Sep 2023

What a wonderful person.

Wild blueberry

(7,224 posts)
19. Thank you
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 11:56 AM
Sep 2023

question everything

(48,943 posts)
20. One can only weep
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 11:57 AM
Sep 2023

LoisB

(8,833 posts)
22. Thank you for this. Not all heroes wear capes.
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 12:26 PM
Sep 2023

KS Toronado

(19,628 posts)
23. I question if any of MSM will even mention his name today
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 12:40 PM
Sep 2023

I'm referring to the TV MSM, if anyone does mention Rick Rescorla today, it'll be evening MSNBC.

Educate me if I'm right or wrong.

calimary

(84,469 posts)
25. Well, WE remember him today, thanks to honored sentinels in our DU midst.
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 12:45 PM
Sep 2023

Thanks, ItsjustMe. You’re helping to keep his legacy alive.

Martin68

(24,633 posts)
37. I've never heard this story. Why should people in the media have heard it?
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 05:02 PM
Sep 2023

COL Mustard

(6,927 posts)
24. Rick Rescorla was also a war hero, although he would never have referred to himself that way
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 12:45 PM
Sep 2023

He was a lieutenant in the First Cavalry Division at the Battle of Ia Drang (LZ X-Ray) in 1965 and he used some of those same Cornish songs to maintain his men's morale during an intense 3-day battle.

"We Were Soldiers Once...And Young"...and his picture is on the cover.

I never met him but met the authors at a book signing. He was a genuine hero.

Wounded Bear

(60,745 posts)
26. K & R...nt
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 12:49 PM
Sep 2023

AmBlue

(3,444 posts)
27. A True Hero
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 02:15 PM
Sep 2023

...of the highest order. RIP

Hotler

(12,300 posts)
32. Wow.
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 04:31 PM
Sep 2023

BigOleDummy

(2,274 posts)
34. Rest well Sir.
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 04:36 PM
Sep 2023

Martin68

(24,633 posts)
35. Wonderful story. Thanks for sharing.
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 04:56 PM
Sep 2023

calimary

(84,469 posts)
48. A really wonderful read, even with the sad ending we already know about.
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 08:17 PM
Sep 2023

barbtries

(29,884 posts)
40. i never knew this story.
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 05:44 PM
Sep 2023

wow.

COL Mustard

(6,927 posts)
44. To my knowledge
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 06:38 PM
Sep 2023

He was never found.

barbtries

(29,884 posts)
45. that's what the OP said I believe.
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 06:45 PM
Sep 2023

very sad. what a good guy

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,699 posts)
41. Reminded me of John P O'Neil
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 05:48 PM
Sep 2023

He too knew what was to happen. And died that day.

"John Patrick O'Neill (February 6, 1952 – September 11, 2001) was an American counter-terrorism expert who worked as a special agent and eventually a Special Agent in Charge in the Federal Bureau of Investigation. In 1995, O'Neill began to intensely study the roots of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing after he assisted in the capture of Ramzi Yousef, who was the leader of that plot...."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_P._O%27Neill

Delphinus

(12,148 posts)
42. Oh my ...
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 06:05 PM
Sep 2023

you made me cry. Wow.

Cha

(305,622 posts)
46. 💕🕯️🕊️😇🙁 Mahalo Rick Rescorla
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 07:31 PM
Sep 2023

And you initiating🕊️

SouthernDem4ever

(6,618 posts)
47. Incredible act of selflessness
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 07:46 PM
Sep 2023

3auld6phart

(1,280 posts)
49. I never
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 09:19 PM
Sep 2023

Knew of this. Has he been recognised for this? If, not a posthumous award should have been awarded. There were many heroic people that day. So many unrecognised

JohnnyRingo

(19,348 posts)
50. Amazing! Thanx for posting.
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 09:57 PM
Sep 2023
 

MyNameIsJonas

(744 posts)
51. Unfortunately, the person who tweeted this went on to use it to rail against COVID restrictions...
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 10:02 PM
Sep 2023

...and vaccines.

I really find it tacky that he would tie this poor man's death to his own political bullshit.

3auld6phart

(1,280 posts)
52. Damn
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 11:02 PM
Sep 2023

That definitely is a downer.

 

MyNameIsJonas

(744 posts)
54. Really bummed me out following the rest of his thread.
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 11:23 PM
Sep 2023

JI7

(90,681 posts)
55. It's the person that tweeted it that is shit. The guy Rick Rescorlo is still a hero
Tue Sep 12, 2023, 12:56 AM
Sep 2023
 

MyNameIsJonas

(744 posts)
56. Yes. Never claimed otherwise.
Tue Sep 12, 2023, 01:45 AM
Sep 2023

Obviously I didn't think a guy who died 22 years ago would have COVID takes. It's still a bummer to see people using his death to push their own narratives.

Historic NY

(37,953 posts)
53. ..
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 11:10 PM
Sep 2023

swong19104

(344 posts)
57. Heart Of A Soldier
Tue Sep 12, 2023, 03:37 AM
Sep 2023

was a book, and an opera about Rick Rescorla. The opera was quite powerful. The twin tower scene really hit home.

Joinfortmill

(16,535 posts)
60. Sometimes 'when you know, you know'. God bless him
Tue Sep 12, 2023, 09:09 AM
Sep 2023
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