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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 10:34 PM Jan 2012

Six U.S. lawmakers dropped their support for SOPA/PIPA

Jan. 18 (Bloomberg) -- Six U.S. lawmakers dropped their support for Hollywood-backed anti-piracy legislation as Google Inc., Wikipedia and other websites protest the measures.

Co-sponsors who say they can no longer support their own legislation include Senators Marco Rubio, a Florida Republican, Roy Blunt, a Missouri Republican, and Ben Cardin, a Maryland Democrat. Republican Representatives Ben Quayle of Arizona, Lee Terry of Nebraska, and Dennis Ross of Florida also said they would withdraw their backing of the House bill.

The Senate bill and the Stop Online Piracy Act in the House are backed by the movie and music industries as a means to crack down on the sale of counterfeit goods by non-U.S. websites. Hollywood studios want lawmakers to ensure that Internet companies such as Google share responsibility for curbing the distribution of pirated films and television shows.

Google, owner of the world’s most popular search engine, covered the “Google” icon on its home page today with a black box and linked to a website that says the bills may spur censorship and slow U.S. economic growth. Visitors to that website are urged to sign an online petition asking Congress to reject the legislation.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/six-us-lawmakers-abandon-anti-piracy-bills-as-google-protests/2012/01/18/gIQAzBHz8P_story.html?tid=pm_business_pop

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Six U.S. lawmakers dropped their support for SOPA/PIPA (Original Post) The Straight Story Jan 2012 OP
Got me to send no less than four Lifelong Protester Jan 2012 #1
Rep. Braley has come to the light 47of74 Jan 2012 #2
run Forrest run! ddeclue Jan 2012 #4
Republicans seem to be dropping their support NewJeffCT Jan 2012 #3
Chris Dodd is now the MPAA CEO AZ Progressive Jan 2012 #9
Quayle represents the district ChazII Jan 2012 #5
Lee Terry might have been influenced by PayPal and Yahoo's presence in Omaha OmahaBlueDog Jan 2012 #6
I did my part with Blunt today. xmas74 Jan 2012 #7
The powers that be The Wizard Jan 2012 #8
This may be the event that establishes Wikipedia & Google as political superpowers. DirkGently Jan 2012 #11
According to Norman Goldman.... AZ Progressive Jan 2012 #10
Ben Cardin??? Srsly? AnnieBW Jan 2012 #12
Alot of Dem senators support the PIPA, it's not as harsh as SOPA LynneSin Jan 2012 #17
+1 nt Liberalynn Jan 2012 #18
You need money for your campaign, even if you run as a progressive. Selatius Jan 2012 #25
This made my day a lot better. Thanks dude. :) AverageJoe90 Jan 2012 #13
PIPA support collapses, with 13 new Senators opposed Tx4obama Jan 2012 #14
5 more opponents since the list was first drawn. All repubs. n/t vaberella Jan 2012 #15
They had better do something about piracy though. begin_within Jan 2012 #16
I agree but neither of these bills in congress works LynneSin Jan 2012 #19
You're sick of it? DireStrike Jan 2012 #20
Yes. begin_within Jan 2012 #21
I don't suppose being ridiculed as utterly clueless helped matters! qb Jan 2012 #22
"Nerds? I believe the word you are looking for is EXPERTS". Quantess Jan 2012 #24
K&R (nt) T S Justly Jan 2012 #23

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
1. Got me to send no less than four
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 10:54 PM
Jan 2012

emails/petition signings today. Good for these websites, including DU (I missed it something terribly!)

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
2. Rep. Braley has come to the light
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 10:59 PM
Jan 2012

Braley earlier told me that he supported SOPA. I wrote back and told him it was a bad bill. I also told him just because he has a D behind his name and I'd soon crawl naked on broken glass than vote for an R that he shouldn't take me for granted.

Based on this email that I received earlier today I take it Mr. Braley saw which way the wind was blowing and switched sides.

From: "Congressman Bruce Braley" <ia01reply@mail.house.gov>
Subject: Reply from Congressman Bruce Braley
Date: January 18, 2012 11:54:02 AM CST
To: Me

January 18, 2012

Me
My Street Address
City, State, Zip Code

Dear Jesse,

As someone who's expressed concern over the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA), I thought you'd be interested to know my position on the bill.

I am strongly opposed to SOPA. Hundreds of Iowans have contacted me regarding this bill and I get it. SOPA is a flawed bill that would stifle innovation and has serious technical faults that would not effectively combat online piracy. America's great strength has always been innovation built on the open exchange of ideas, and I believe that limiting that free exchange will stifle technological progress and put our nation at a competitive disadvantage. While I am still committed to combating online piracy, SOPA is not the bill to do it. I appreciate your input on this issue, and I've heard you loud and clear. I will be voting no on SOPA if it comes to the House floor.

Thanks again for contacting me. I occasionally provide electronic updates on issues I think my constituents might be interested in. If you would like to receive my E-newsletter, please sign up at my website at http://braley.house.gov. On my website you can also view my voting record, and get information about issues important to the First District. If I can be of any further assistance, please don't hesitate to contact me.

Sincerely,

Bruce Braley
Member of Congress

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
9. Chris Dodd is now the MPAA CEO
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 11:43 PM
Jan 2012

I wouldn't expect Democrats to not support it given Chris Dodd's potential influence with Democrats. Why else would he be paid $1.2 million a year by the MPAA?

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
6. Lee Terry might have been influenced by PayPal and Yahoo's presence in Omaha
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 11:25 PM
Jan 2012

..or he might just see which way the wind is blowing here.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
7. I did my part with Blunt today.
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 11:32 PM
Jan 2012

I sent my emails and made a call. Last thing I ever expected was for him to drop it.

The Wizard

(12,541 posts)
8. The powers that be
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 11:33 PM
Jan 2012

are evolving into the powers that were. Without any exposure on the corporate media legislators are backing off their attempts to seize the Internet.
As a sage said in the last century, "....the loser now will be later to win, for times they are a changin'."
We are the 99%.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
11. This may be the event that establishes Wikipedia & Google as political superpowers.
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 11:50 PM
Jan 2012



But, yeah. Absolutely.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
10. According to Norman Goldman....
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 11:48 PM
Jan 2012

This is basically Congress playing games with both industries, using this issue to basically force both the Tech Industry and the Entertainment Industry to pay lots of money to Congress (pretending to use the money to buy the votes) , and then they will eventually have them both to get together and compromise, and Congress will basically pass the compromise bill (not after doing a second round of milking.)

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
17. Alot of Dem senators support the PIPA, it's not as harsh as SOPA
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 10:34 AM
Jan 2012

And remember, the people behind all of this is the entertainment industry which tends to be more liberal. I was shocked to read that Chris Coons also supported this but he only supports the Senate version (PIPA), which is less intrusive than the house version (SOPA).

I think there is a need for copyright infringement protection but we need to find a way to create the bill so it doesn't turn website owners into nanny states. I would rather have both bills tabled and perhaps the entertainment industry, the internet leaders and congress can work together to find a bill that solves everyone's problem.

Selatius

(20,441 posts)
25. You need money for your campaign, even if you run as a progressive.
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 08:25 PM
Jan 2012

You may reject money from the petroleum lobby or even money from defense lobbyists representing arms manufacturers, but you would make up for those losses by taking money from other big industry groups, like the RIAA or the MPAA or even big finance.

 

begin_within

(21,551 posts)
16. They had better do something about piracy though.
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 10:31 AM
Jan 2012

I'm sick of it and I am totally in favor of punishing web sites that violate copyright laws.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
19. I agree but neither of these bills in congress works
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 11:30 AM
Jan 2012

As I had mentioned above, both should be tabled. And then an open discussion between entertainment industry (who is pushing for this bill to be passed) and Internet Industry (those who don't want it) needs to happen where a bill can be formulated that solves the piracy issue without turning the internet into a nanny/police state.

 

begin_within

(21,551 posts)
21. Yes.
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 11:52 AM
Jan 2012

I am the copyright owner of the things I have made and sell. I'm not some huge faceless corporation. I discovered some of my stuff had been uploaded to Youtube illegally and was sitting there for 3 years under different names. I have no way of knowing how much I lost in sales because of that. I have also had content on my web site, which I wrote and created, blatantly copied to other similar web sites without any changes and without even asking my permission. And using what I created to make money on their own. And contacting or getting through to people who do this is often difficult, time-consuming or even impossible. I'm really glad that the government is finally taking some serious action about this, and I'm disappointed in the outcry over it. I had thought that DU members, in particular, would be supportive of artists, musicians, writers, photographers, and any creative types who rely on copyright laws to protect their property. I'm disappointed and disheartened by their attitude. Yes, I am sick of it.

qb

(5,924 posts)
22. I don't suppose being ridiculed as utterly clueless helped matters!
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 04:36 PM
Jan 2012

Jon Stewart showed clips of a few politicians joking about the need to ask the "nerds" when admitting they didn't know what the hell they were doing.

I think the bills' supporters got burned by industry goons who were the true authors.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
24. "Nerds? I believe the word you are looking for is EXPERTS".
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 08:21 PM
Jan 2012

That was a good clip. It's in the video forum right now, on page 1.

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